Comments on: Sneak Peeks at openSUSE 10.3: Greatly Improved Boot Time http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/ The latest stuff happening in the openSUSE universe Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:45:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: A.K. http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-2181 A.K. Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:33:11 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-2181 Fantastic Improvement! It was embarrassing to tell non technical users how much faster and more stable linux and other UXs were compared to Windows XB (Xtra Bloated) only to have them complain/laugh at the SLOW Linux boot-up time. Now with Suse 10.3 booting up faster that VISTA (Ultra-Bloated) or WinXB they're really impressed, especially on the really powerful multi-media and user-friendly features that Suse team put in version 10.3. I have totally windows-only users hooked (like addicts) on Suse; they comment to me that the main differences the notice with Suse over Windows is bettter Snappiness of application startup (i.e. browser/Medi-players/etc) in SUSE 10.3 over Windows AND the fact that there workstations and laptops are wonderfully silent (i.e. no Hard-drives noises) compared to Windoze (with it noisy (and slow) NTFS and inferior caching algorithms) Fantastic Improvement! It was embarrassing to tell non technical users how much faster and more stable linux and other UXs were compared to Windows XB (Xtra Bloated) only to have them complain/laugh at the SLOW Linux boot-up time. Now with Suse 10.3 booting up faster that VISTA (Ultra-Bloated) or WinXB they’re really impressed, especially on the really powerful multi-media and user-friendly features that Suse team put in version 10.3. I have totally windows-only users hooked (like addicts) on Suse; they comment to me that the main differences the notice with Suse over Windows is bettter Snappiness of application startup (i.e. browser/Medi-players/etc) in SUSE 10.3 over Windows AND the fact that there workstations and laptops are wonderfully silent (i.e. no Hard-drives noises) compared to Windoze (with it noisy (and slow) NTFS and inferior caching algorithms)

]]> By: Jean-Loup http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-1639 Jean-Loup Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:29:05 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-1639 Well, thank you for this work. But I experimented some problems in name resolution with dns and ldap du to their starting order I suppose. To get a safe start of network services, I have to boot in runlevel 1, then 3, then 5 (not very fast ;). Note that I am my own client for DNS, LDAP, and so on ... When I let the system boot by its own network services are not started on the same order against differents boots. I think that there is some work to do there ;) Maybe we have to first starting dns, then ldap, and then the other services. If this can present some interest I will send you my "boot.msg" files. Thank you again for your work and your patience. Best regards from France! Well, thank you for this work. But I experimented some problems in name resolution with dns and ldap du to their starting order I suppose.
To get a safe start of network services, I have to boot in runlevel 1, then 3, then 5 (not very fast ;). Note that I am my own client for DNS, LDAP, and so on …
When I let the system boot by its own network services are not started on the same order against differents boots.
I think that there is some work to do there ;)
Maybe we have to first starting dns, then ldap, and then the other services.
If this can present some interest I will send you my “boot.msg” files.

Thank you again for your work and your patience. Best regards from France!

]]> By: dez http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-1468 dez Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:36:24 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-1468 i have been using both mandriva (before name change until now) and suse, just before the takeover i purchased the 8.1 box set and found that on some occasions that has saved me a few times lol i personally think boot times are the most important, this is due to the snazzy ms things happening (im not condoning propriatery, im just saying they did somthing good) and i think we as linux users need to get our boot times in par, if not even better than a default installed xp startup. i had experimented with initng on mandriva, and i was like WTF! (blinded by the difference in speed) was a bit ugly to watch though, mabye ppl could learn from fedoras idea to start x first then load stuff , but instead of getting all fancy, why not incorporate somthing like the initng while x has started to load the services? mabye that might work, as u can see im not a programmer but i have a fair idea on how things work. i have 10.1 gm dvd as the latest suse, and mandriva 2007 spring (paid for edition) these are my new found adversaries/allies in the os world. until then i use xp for my games, until i can figure what to do about my ati card etc (another story) this is a great idea. i have been using both mandriva (before name change until now) and suse, just before the takeover
i purchased the 8.1 box set and found that on some occasions that has saved me a few times lol

i personally think boot times are the most important, this is due to the snazzy ms things happening (im not condoning propriatery, im just saying they did somthing good)
and i think we as linux users need to get our boot times in par, if not even better than a default installed xp startup.

i had experimented with initng on mandriva, and i was like WTF! (blinded by the difference in speed) was a bit ugly to watch though,
mabye ppl could learn from fedoras idea to start x first then load stuff
, but instead of getting all fancy, why not incorporate somthing like the initng while x has started to load the services?
mabye that might work, as u can see im not a programmer but i have a fair idea on how things work.

i have 10.1 gm dvd as the latest suse, and mandriva 2007 spring (paid for edition)
these are my new found adversaries/allies in the os world.
until then i use xp for my games, until i can figure what to do about my ati card etc (another story)
this is a great idea.

]]> By: Bob Heise http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-1256 Bob Heise Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:18:53 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-1256 I think I got hit by this. I updated from 10.2 to 10.3, and it didn't like to find my LVM2 root partition. I was able to get the safe mode to boot, and now the normal kernel works too. It also used the libpata instead of the old pata drivers, so it changed my devices to sda so my old kernels don't like to boot, but that's not really a problem. I think I got hit by this. I updated from 10.2 to 10.3, and it didn’t like to find my LVM2 root partition. I was able to get the safe mode to boot, and now the normal kernel works too. It also used the libpata instead of the old pata drivers, so it changed my devices to sda so my old kernels don’t like to boot, but that’s not really a problem.

]]> By: richlv http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-1164 richlv Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:44:37 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-1164 i'm not the original commenter, but i believe some bloat comes from the fact that not all software is modular enough, thus requiring any generic binary distribution to compile the support in. for example, if i am using amarok with sqlite only, i still get mysql and pgsql support (though there are plans to make this support loadable, there are other examples). and then there are some weird dependancies, like sles 10 "base" pattern required gnome-icon-theme ;) otherwise the bloat is either perceived, or because of the default installation settings (who thought it is a good idea to have zmd enabled by default in 10.1 or 10.2 ? ;) ) i’m not the original commenter, but i believe some bloat comes from the fact that not all software is modular enough, thus requiring any generic binary distribution to compile the support in. for example, if i am using amarok with sqlite only, i still get mysql and pgsql support (though there are plans to make this support loadable, there are other examples).

and then there are some weird dependancies, like sles 10 “base” pattern required gnome-icon-theme ;)

otherwise the bloat is either perceived, or because of the default installation settings (who thought it is a good idea to have zmd enabled by default in 10.1 or 10.2 ? ;) )

]]> By: terry http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-1016 terry Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:52:01 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-1016 I have been an SuSe user since version 5.0 and have seen the up downs of this great distro , I have strayed some times to other distros like at the present , I have Ubuntu on my Laptop but with 10.3 , I will converting back to opensuse , As a Linux user group convener I need to look at various distros but most of the time I all wauys come back to SuSe nest Monday at the linux group I will be showcasing 10.3 for sure. Great work opensuse team! Regards Terry Linux & Open Source SIG at Melbpc User Group I have been an SuSe user since version 5.0 and have seen the up downs of this great distro , I have strayed some times
to other distros like at the present , I have Ubuntu on my Laptop but with 10.3 , I will converting back to opensuse , As a Linux user group convener I need to look at various distros but most of the time I all wauys come back to SuSe nest Monday at the linux group I will be showcasing 10.3 for sure.

Great work opensuse team!

Regards Terry

Linux & Open Source SIG at Melbpc User Group

]]> By: Filozofia http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-901 Filozofia Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:49:48 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-901 Great work opensuse team! Great work opensuse team!

]]> By: SneWs http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-729 SneWs Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:18:15 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-729 Nice job, this is great. If this is what happens during rainy days, let there be more rain ;) Nice job, this is great. If this is what happens during rainy days, let there be more rain ;)

]]> By: 11thMessenger http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-304 11thMessenger Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:08:11 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-304 great job... keep openSUSE as the great distro we all prefer... (y) great job… keep openSUSE as the great distro we all prefer… (y)

]]> By: MRx http://news.opensuse.org/2007/08/12/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-103-greatly-improved-boot-time/#comment-291 MRx Fri, 17 Aug 2007 09:12:25 +0000 http://news.opensuse.org/?p=104#comment-291 Well - xwindow is rather slow(compared to other distributions) if we want to make openSUSE fast it should by cheked what is going on. Well - xwindow is rather slow(compared to other distributions) if we want to make openSUSE fast it should by cheked what is going on.

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