And i am one of those who want that manuall package installer thing to work! I download/add from cd what ever package, install it manually example: package file on desktop,infolder whatever. Then ready to use application. With default qlib thing. Sadly most software need newer qlib or what it called very anoing.

But these havent been smooth though.. One thing i had issues with were to get the repository to add my desktop(adjusting repository) as a repository to manually install package from desktop/folder. After reboot the grubloader failed and “nonX” promt up, asking for som strange password for my computer. What did i do wrong to deserve this? formar time again..

Why not make a easy way and go for full “rightclick install package” without using repository/yast and what not more to install a package? and make it behave like a “exe” installer? and same support when installing gfx drivers and more? only thing past that is the rot password for final promt to execute.

Do this and alot like me move final from MS..

Define will not install, if you mean conflicts that’s sometimes unavoidable, not everything can coexist. If you mean the process is failing somehow please file bug report and make sure you include the link that was failing. Unless they are reported they can’t be fixed.

> I have tried many times to get Skype to run and I have not been able too because of the lack of 32bit packages you need to run Skype.

This isn’t true, it is somewhat complicated to install skype as it is not in a package repository, but the required 32bit packages are indeed available. Try the following install link I did as a test http://benjiweber.co.uk/skype.ymp Installs skype from skype website and all the required dependencies from the basesystem.

I believe the better solution is to download all the packages, then install. This is what the Smart Package Manager does. If I lose my connection or a package cannot be found, I can easily recover. The updates/packages are not installed until all of them are downloaded.

Is this now available in Yast now? If so, I would switch back to using Yast.

Alvin

Also, having a ton of interpreters for a base system is not nice either. Once upon a time, perl was all that was needed, now python has found its way in (smart, libpurple, GIMP+Inkscape IIRC) come in too, and ruby is perhaps on the edge of crawling in too.

No, it doesn’t. If a user (and a beginner is in trouble at this point), has to go through a dependecy tree, and make choices such as deleting and uninstalling files to simply install a program from the YaST GUI, then that is not “automatic” dependency resolution. That is MANUAL dependency resolution. Therefore, although it has been around for a while (your strange “beginning of the ages” comment”), it is not in YaST QT.

What are YOU talking about?

“No, dependency resolution is not great and far from perfect in apt/synaptic, that’s a myth debian advocates spread and is really far from being true.”

No, you’re wrong. It’s something I’ve observed firsthand, myself, in a variety of situations, distros, and package managers. I’m a SuSE man, not a debian advocate, although I do respect the heck out of them. apt/synaptic simply resolves dependencies much better than the yast tool. That’s a fact.

Now, the problem may well lie in the packages themself. However, you state that zypp is excellent from the CLI, and I know SMART is superb. Why then the trouble with the graphical UI, judas?

What, do you think as a Retail using SuSE user I’ve never used YaST, and instead have this info from perusing Debian websites, or somesuch tripe, instead of my own firsthand (and anecdotal from peers) observations? I’m actually insulted by that.