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	<title>Comments on: New openSUSE Packages: KDE 4.0 RC1, KOffice 2 Alpha5, Firefox 3.0 Beta</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2088</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They kind of admitted that &quot;RC&quot; label was premature. This week&#039;s Release Candidate 2 will be more close to that state.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They kind of admitted that &#8220;RC&#8221; label was premature. This week&#8217;s Release Candidate 2 will be more close to that state.</p>
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		<title>By: Griobhtha</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Griobhtha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KDE &quot;RC&quot;...  I don&#039;t think so.  Overzealous evangelists can complain about whiners all they want, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that KDE4 is still an ALPHA, NOT a beta, and certainly not a release candidate (are they going to &quot;code freeze&quot; the non-functional and missing components?).

I use KDE in OpenSuSE or Kubuntu every day.  I&#039;m also required to deal with Ubuntu, Vista, and Leopard every day.  KDE 4 is heading down the wrong road if the Plasma (read Aero) interface is going to become center stage over workability and functionality.  Basic function calls don&#039;t work.  Basic desktop management and customization is either missing or non-functional.  How can you have something in beta without the MAJORITY of the NEEDED interface components existing and functional in some semblance for TESTING.

KDE was different because it provided ready access to control(s).  Control is seriously missing from KDE 4.  It is too similar in non-functionality to Vista, Leopard, and even Gnome.  I have nothing against a good looking desktop, but if it can&#039;t or won&#039;t provide control and functionality, it is no good.  Again, if this is &quot;beta&quot; &quot;release candidate&quot;, KDE is should change the name to Broken Knome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KDE &#8220;RC&#8221;&#8230;  I don&#8217;t think so.  Overzealous evangelists can complain about whiners all they want, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that KDE4 is still an ALPHA, NOT a beta, and certainly not a release candidate (are they going to &#8220;code freeze&#8221; the non-functional and missing components?).</p>
<p>I use KDE in OpenSuSE or Kubuntu every day.  I&#8217;m also required to deal with Ubuntu, Vista, and Leopard every day.  KDE 4 is heading down the wrong road if the Plasma (read Aero) interface is going to become center stage over workability and functionality.  Basic function calls don&#8217;t work.  Basic desktop management and customization is either missing or non-functional.  How can you have something in beta without the MAJORITY of the NEEDED interface components existing and functional in some semblance for TESTING.</p>
<p>KDE was different because it provided ready access to control(s).  Control is seriously missing from KDE 4.  It is too similar in non-functionality to Vista, Leopard, and even Gnome.  I have nothing against a good looking desktop, but if it can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t provide control and functionality, it is no good.  Again, if this is &#8220;beta&#8221; &#8220;release candidate&#8221;, KDE is should change the name to Broken Knome.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1933</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I have tried KDE FOUR LIVE.

I&#039;m a SUSE user since 9.3, now I&#039;m using openSUSE 10.3, one of the more important features of SUSE/openSUSE is the KDE support.

I&#039;m worry about the thing that I&#039;m starting to looking some GNOME style in KDE4. I think GNOME GUI environment is so limited, when I&#039;m in gnome I feel like I&#039;m in a Windows environment, I can&#039;t do almost nothing. 

KDE is powerfull and also can be beautifull, please go on with your own style.

Nowdays there is a tendency to make the Desktops or the GUI environment as dummy as possible, of course It can&#039;t be complex to use, but making it so limited I don&#039;t think if this is the right way.

In the other half, I imagine the effort that the team is doing with KDE4, I know in the future it will be amazing, thank you all for your work.

The widgets on the Desktops are amazing, very useful and eye candy.

KDE + openSUSE + green :) = the best integral Desktop.

rgds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I have tried KDE FOUR LIVE.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a SUSE user since 9.3, now I&#8217;m using openSUSE 10.3, one of the more important features of SUSE/openSUSE is the KDE support.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m worry about the thing that I&#8217;m starting to looking some GNOME style in KDE4. I think GNOME GUI environment is so limited, when I&#8217;m in gnome I feel like I&#8217;m in a Windows environment, I can&#8217;t do almost nothing. </p>
<p>KDE is powerfull and also can be beautifull, please go on with your own style.</p>
<p>Nowdays there is a tendency to make the Desktops or the GUI environment as dummy as possible, of course It can&#8217;t be complex to use, but making it so limited I don&#8217;t think if this is the right way.</p>
<p>In the other half, I imagine the effort that the team is doing with KDE4, I know in the future it will be amazing, thank you all for your work.</p>
<p>The widgets on the Desktops are amazing, very useful and eye candy.</p>
<p>KDE + openSUSE + green :) = the best integral Desktop.</p>
<p>rgds.</p>
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		<title>By: EnRokuta</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>EnRokuta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find openSUSE packages for Firefox3 to be more responsive (switching tabs and scrolling) compared with Firefox2 packages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find openSUSE packages for Firefox3 to be more responsive (switching tabs and scrolling) compared with Firefox2 packages.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Green</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1878</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After 4 attempts, I managed to get everything up and running, and I&#039;m glad I did.
The one click install did its job well, even in my previously failed attempts by rescuing the aborted installations.
Now I&#039;ve got it, two things really suprise me; Firstly, how much quicker web browsing is, and secondly, I now have 3D graphics without all the fuss of repeatedly initalising it through a terminal window.
Linux has indeed come a long way since my first encounter with SUSE 9.0, and for sheer speed, 10.3 has overtaken much of what Microsoft has to offer.
For now, I&#039;m hooked.
Allan Green. (Cutting Edge Systems)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 4 attempts, I managed to get everything up and running, and I&#8217;m glad I did.<br />
The one click install did its job well, even in my previously failed attempts by rescuing the aborted installations.<br />
Now I&#8217;ve got it, two things really suprise me; Firstly, how much quicker web browsing is, and secondly, I now have 3D graphics without all the fuss of repeatedly initalising it through a terminal window.<br />
Linux has indeed come a long way since my first encounter with SUSE 9.0, and for sheer speed, 10.3 has overtaken much of what Microsoft has to offer.<br />
For now, I&#8217;m hooked.<br />
Allan Green. (Cutting Edge Systems)</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Green</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1875</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tried Twice, Download Error - Would not Install]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried Twice, Download Error &#8211; Would not Install</p>
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		<title>By: lord</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1874</link>
		<dc:creator>lord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i just love the &quot;one click install&quot;, good job guys!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just love the &#8220;one click install&#8221;, good job guys!</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1873</link>
		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Currently the problem is that package (kdebase4-wallpapers) conflicts with kdebase3 or some major package like that, so you can&#039;t have wallpaper on kde4 without installing it manually or removing half of kde3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently the problem is that package (kdebase4-wallpapers) conflicts with kdebase3 or some major package like that, so you can&#8217;t have wallpaper on kde4 without installing it manually or removing half of kde3.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1870</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[never mind, I tried it, and it&#039;s ok, but not usable.  I found it to be, on 1gb of ram, twice as slow as 3.5.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never mind, I tried it, and it&#8217;s ok, but not usable.  I found it to be, on 1gb of ram, twice as slow as 3.5.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2007/11/24/new-opensuse-packages-kde-40-rc1-koffice-2-alpha5-firefox-40-beta/comment-page-1/#comment-1869</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm, I wouldn&#039;t mind trying RC1 as a sole install, not alongside 3.5, but I guess we wont be able to do an update from 3.5 to 4 until the final release?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, I wouldn&#8217;t mind trying RC1 as a sole install, not alongside 3.5, but I guess we wont be able to do an update from 3.5 to 4 until the final release?</p>
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