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KDE 4.0 Released With openSUSE Packages and Live CD

January 11th, 2008 by

The KDE Community has announced the immediate availability of KDE 4.0.0. This significant release marks both the end of the long and intensive development cycle leading up to KDE 4.0 and the beginning of the KDE 4 era. KDE developers, including our openSUSE KDE Team, have been working on getting toward KDE 4.0 for over 2 years.

The Start of Something Amazing: A Revolutionary New Desktop

The KDE 4 Libraries have seen major improvements in almost all areas. The Phonon multimedia framework provides platform independent multimedia support to all KDE applications, the Solid hardware integration framework makes interacting with (removable) devices easier and provides tools for better powermanagement.

The KDE 4 Desktop has gained some major new capabilities. The Plasma desktop shell offers a new desktop interface, including panel, menu and widgets on the desktop as well as a dashboard function. KWin, the KDE Window manager now supports advanced graphical effects to ease interaction with your windows.

Lots of KDE Applications have seen improvements as well. Visual updates through using vector-based artwork, changes in the underlying libraries, user interface enhancements, new features, even new applications — you name it, KDE 4.0 has it. Okular, the new document viewer and Dolphin, the new filemanager are only two applications that leverage KDE 4.0′s new technologies.

The Oxygen Artwork team provides a breath of fresh air on the desktop. Nearly all user-visible parts of the KDE desktop and applications have been given a facelift. Beauty and consistency are two of the basic concepts behind Oxygen.

KDE Four Live 1.0

See the rest of the visual guide for more information and images.

KDE 4.0 Packages, openSUSE-based KDE 4.0 Live CD

Regular KDE 4 Packages and an openSUSE-based KDE Four Live CD have been available throughout the whole cycle, and final versions of them are also available now. On openSUSE 10.3 you can use 1-click-install to get the KDE 4.0 desktop environment:

Or you can choose to install a more basic KDE 4 desktop. Developers can also optionally install the KDE 4 build dependencies: all the packages you need to have installed for compiling KDE 4.0 from source (experts only).

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91 Responses to “KDE 4.0 Released With openSUSE Packages and Live CD”

  1. super cool! i can’t wait openSUSE 11 with KDE 4 :D

  2. Antti

    A big “Thank You” to the openSUSE KDE team for their excellent work !
    (also, thank you KDE!)

  3. Thanx to all the team :)
    Installing it now

  4. Installing….. beta was fine so this release should work even on my main workstation :P

  5. Congratulations to openSUSE and mainly to KDE developers who made this new and beautiful desktop manager!!!

  6. kaz

    Why, when I try to install using 1-click system still ask me about cd-rom and try to install packages from cd.??

    • Beineri

      That’s correct behavior: KDE 4.0 has new/other dependencies than KDE3. If those are part of the distribution in a sufficient version then they are not included in the KDE4 build service repository but requested from your distro repository. You can register the online distro repository if you don’t have the CD/DVD handy.

  7. beautiful and fast… thank you kde/openSUSE-kde team…
    Have you heard we need better software not better PCs? ..
    KDE4 is a good example of a better software

  8. Bharat

    I am installing KDE 4.0 build packages and checking it from the past few months and the progress is very good. Some kinks are still present but it is very usable and I love it. With opensuse 11.0 I hope it will be very polished & well integrated into Suse.

  9. I’m not so sure about this. I love KDE and was very excited to hear about KDE 4, and have followed its progress daily. However, after I installed it, I felt let down. There seems to be little incorporation of Opensuse (ie: the auto updater by the clock is gone, no Suse logo on Kicker, in Konquerer the side panels for things like Amarok are gone, and are not there in Dolphin either), and where the newer Operating system tried to make everything as smooth, rounded, and glass like as possible, KDE 4 seems to have chosen a very flat feeling (but Compiz will fix that). And my biggest concern is that it seems that besides the bare minimum, nothing has changed. Amarok still looks the same, Firefox now looks older than before by taking on a Windows 98 color and feeling, and most of my daily used programs feel old and out of place on this great looking desktop. Lastly, it seems to die on my every once and awhile. That may be just my fault for a lot of reasons, but my computer will restart, or log me out randomly ever since I got it (but like I said, that may be my fault). Overall, I am thrilled with KDE 4, and I think that it can now rival most operating systems properly without people saying “well KDE and Gnome are not as good as Vista/leopard.” I just think that if I am using Opensuse, it should feel like Opensuse, and right now i feel as if KDE were its own Operating System with Opensuse thrown in the mix. Maybe that is just on my system lol, maybe I did something wrong. But then again, how can I expect it to be well incorporated, 10.3 was not built with KDE 4 by default. On a more positive note; I think it looks great, and love how fast everything is, Great Job!

    • Beineri

      The incorporation/integration work is just starting and some applications like Amarok have no KDE4 releases seen yet. There is much stuff to do (both upstream and distro related) to get most of old feeling and functionality back for sure but on the positive side it’s still several months until openSUSE 11.0 release. :-)

      • Yes, I am really looking looking forward to the 11.0 release. What I meant when referring to applications such as Amarok wasn’t that I was expecting full incorporation with KDE 4, but I thought that the layout and toolbar might resemble it more, but I guess that part is application specific. I always thought it was part of KDE. I also read that KDE 4 is not designed to replace KDE 3 for desktop users yet, so I am slowly accepting it lol.

    • I agree with you, I really felt I was let down… I don’t know if it was because of the hype or the long wait they created.. but I expected MORE… anyways.. I’m installing the kubuntu version, let see if I like it better than OpenSuse.

  10. KDE

    too bad KDE4 has problems with fglrx :/

  11. Grósz Dániel

    Does the KDE4 repository continue to contain the most recent svn development version or will it contain the stable version from now?

    • Beineri

      We are moving to a new repo structure and splitting up into stable and UNSTABLE repositories. We will provide regular (not necessary weekly) updates of both stable and development versions.

  12. irco

    does anyone else have problems with the desktop effects..when I go into the desktop system settings it says”
    “Required Extensions(Xcomposite and Xdamage) are not available.”
    and I can’t find those anywhere…any ideas?

  13. Xniver

    Kopete don’t works well(crashes, duplicating contacts). Additional when i logout from KDE4 i have KWin crash.

    • Richard

      kopete hasn’t worked well in any of the releases. They weren’t going to release with kde4, but then changed their minds, since then the new kopete has been a nightmare.

  14. dale

    I’m running KDE4.0 on SUSE11 alpha 0.0 and its sweet.
    If there is as much improvement between now and when SUSE11 gets released as I have seen between
    KDE4 beta and this release then about all windows might be good for is hacker attack

    • unifex

      Do the side buttons on the mouse work? Before I could not find a usesable instructions on how to get the 5-button mouse work on OpenSuse :)

  15. Richard

    I am not a fan of the new systems settings, it’s ugly, it’s gnome, it’s mac, it’s no longer kde. Although this release was delayed months, it still has a very rushed, beta feeling to it. I realise it wont be until 4.1 or even latter that it starts to pull back in, but still, needs a hell of a lot of work on it, still very buggy. But honestly, kde no longer feels like it stands out, it feels like a clone of everything else. I’m disappointed, I’m looking around for something other than kde now

    • xavier

      I have the same opinion about the new “gde-control-center”

      But I think that there is still a lot of things to do, I think if we all help to the developers with our contructive opinions we will get the best linux desktop.

      I have installed this KDE4 release into my openSUSE10.3, but just for test, I will use KD3.5.8 until KDE4 get a definitive and final release (I mean the core and apps), or until openSUSE11

      Maybe a “Survey” will help the developers to know formally what users think about the new KDE4.

      rgds.

      • Richard

        my experience with some of the kde developers is that they do not listen to the community, but do what they envision it should be. There is very evident with kmail and the anal attitude to keep it back in the text mode of the early email clients. It’s a shame when you look at the advances that apple mail and even windows live mail have made, and also evolution.

      • ra100

        “But I think that there is still a lot of things to do, I think if we all help to the developers with our contructive opinions we will get the best linux desktop.”

        +1
        i agree with you

  16. absorbb

    Kmail package at this time doesn’t exist in KDE4 package repository. And there is no way to install KDE4-Kmail release version in OpenSuSE 10.3

    • Beineri

      Because KMail/kdepim is not part of the KDE 4.0 release. The KMail of KDE 4.0 Beta 2 as in openSUSE 10.3 is incompatible with KDE 4.0 Final.

      • Richard

        sweet, release kde4 when so many of the basics don’t even work, kmail, kopete. Until kde 4.1 this should remain with the beta label.

        • absorbb

          HM. Kopete works fine for me. Version 0.50.0
          And this is first Linux ICQ client that supports X-statuses.
          And file transfer for ICQ was added. )

    • gamzzy

      When wil gonna be released kde4-kmail for opensuse 10.3?
      i can’t move to kde 4.0 because of kmail……. :(

  17. m_goku

    >>Comment by irco
    >>2008-01-11 22:19:40

    >>does anyone else have problems with the desktop effects..when I go into the desktop system settings it says”
    >>“Required Extensions(Xcomposite and Xdamage) are not available.”
    >>and I can’t find those anywhere…any ideas?

    I got the same problem and got fix it by enabling composite

    su
    nvidia-xconfig –composite

    However, after i enable the desktop effect, nothing happen. I try to run some effects and it doesnt work. When i switch back to KDE3, the composite run well. Any idea..??

  18. Deanjo

    OK how the heck do I get rid of this aweful kick off start menu in KDE 4? According to the KDE website “A traditional (KDE3-style) menu is available for those who prefer it.
    “. And believe me I do prefer the traditional menu.

    • Beineri

      Open the “Add Widgets” dialog, drag and drop the “Application Launcher Menu” entry next to the start menu button on the panel, and remove the original “Application Launcher” menu via context menu.

    • Kuikka Hämäläinen

      Agree! Way too much of duplication and specially clicking with the mouse with this “new” start menu! Get back the old one – maybe just move the search field down the list so that it is easier to find. Or actually keep everything else the same, but change the search function so that it actually removes everything else and just gives the matches. Even without that, it’s much faster and easier than the new one.

    • Michael

      Right click on the menu and click on “switch to kde menu style”.

  19. spinaltap

    For some reason, after upgrading the default version of KDE in OpenSuse 10.3 to KDE 4, I am noticing a few changes I did not expect:
    – The Trash Can no longer functions (malformed URL)
    – Many icons on the desktop become ‘question marks’ (icon pictures are gone)
    – Widgets do not function (the do not display, and the bar causes some graphic distortions)
    – The handy quick links (bottom right) are mostly gone

  20. spook_man

    OK, now what. I did both the “Install via 1-click” and went and installed all the KDE4 packages via the Install Software option. Guess what, KDE is still reporting version 3.5.7. Am I missing something? Is there anything which will tell the system to use KDE4 vice KDE 3.5?

    • Beineri

      To quote the wiki page: “After installation you will find a new session type at your login manager for starting a full KDE4 session.”

    • Ralf M Petter

      you have to choose another session type on the login. KDE4 is installed beside kde 3.5.x. So logout and choose kde4 as session type.

      Greetings

      Ralf

  21. arunkm

    I have suse linux 10.3 installed on my system and kde four live cd .
    Is it possible to install KDE 4.0 from the KDE live four CD (Suse linux) ????
    If yes please do tell me how ???

  22. doublehelix

    can somebody tell how to install KDE 4.0 from KDE four live cd to my Suse linux 10.3 ???

    • Beineri

      You don’t want to install the Live-CD as a whole new system but only single packages of it!? That’s not possible. Why don’t you register the KDE:KDE4 build service repository and install the packages from there?

  23. Jon N

    Downloaded Live CD ISO. Burned it. Once this desktop gets all of the bugs out of it, it’ll be great. I’m going to wait for SUSE 11 for any usage of this desktop. Trashcan is querky, and it needs expertise for this live CD to be done right. OpenSUSE 11 is going to be da bomb! Maybe even rival SLED 10. It would be quite a feat if they could. I am really liking my SLED 10.1 SP1. Think aboput all the distros that are going to include this in their next build! It’s going to be a wild Linux summer of 2008!

  24. Dum

    I have using the rc releases and KDE 4 is getting better really fast, but KDE4.0 is still beta quality! Why bring this as a final? I know this is the way KDE works but users are thinking that with a FINAL release KDE 4 is ready to use daily, maybe with some bugs and a few thing less than in KDE3 but thats it, KDE 4 is not there yet, is basic and not really stable.

    reason why i say this?
    - no options to change anything on the kicker and items.
    - can not drag items that are on the kicker.
    - Icons on the desktop are widgets with a question marks (no icon), and if you delete a icon (widget) the original icon will not be delete it’s still in the /Desktop direction. So you can’t download an item too your desktop and deleted it after use.
    - Icons on the desktop have on right click actions.
    - no install option fot new widgets (can’t find it)
    - There is no quick launch.
    - Amarok, Koffice, and so on are not ready yet.
    and so on…

    Don’t get me wrong I LOVE the new KDE 4 release there are a lot things really nice:
    + Konqueror works and looks nice
    + I already like Dolhin a lot.
    + Gwenview is a nice program now.
    + Like the new Oxygen icons
    but there are just to many tings not really ready yet.

    And why branding the Kick-Off with a OpenSUSE button!… I don’t like that, I already know that i’m using OpenSUSE ;)

    Still I think KDE 4 will bring a lot new things and will be a good desktop after the KDE 4.1 / 4.2 release. I want to say thanks to the developers of KDE and OpenSUSE that make KDE 4 possible.

    Dum :)

  25. Ma'moun

    I totally disappointed, way below expectations.

  26. I say that they need to:
    -fix amarok to work with .ape .vqf .wv .dts (realtek ac’97 5.1 channels) search google:
    winampac3 1.01a dts suport
    -fix ark to work with the very new .tar.gz .tar.gz2 (like IZarc does)
    -all opened documents must be easy to copy-paste text and images (Kpdf)
    -matlab program – for example ability to make a figure:
    clp.m containing text:
    ==============================================
    %grafice;
    a=[0.1000000E-02 0.4500000E-01 0.9100000E-01 0.1370000E+00 0.1830000E+00 0.2290000E+00 0.2750000E+00 0.3210000E+00 0.3670000E+00 0.4120000E+00 0.4580000E+00 0.5040000E+00 0.5500000E+00 0.5960000E+00 0.6420000E+00 0.6880000E+00 0.7340000E+00 0.7800000E+00];
    t=[0.2494082E+01 0.2487537E+01 0.2491553E+01 0.2499303E+01 0.2510659E+01 0.2525716E+01 0.2544668E+01 0.2567788E+01 0.2595439E+01 0.2627320E+01 0.2665427E+01 0.2709811E+01 0.2760968E+01 0.2820647E+01 0.2890497E+01 0.2972736E+01 0.3065090E+01 0.3182823E+01];
    plot (a,t,’-k’,’LineWidth’,1);grid;
    xlabel(‘Mach’);
    ylabel(‘C_l_p’);
    title(‘Grafic C_l_p = f(Mach)’);

    ==============================================
    -fortran – ability to open programs made in Compaq Visual Fortran 6.1 (it’s easy)
    -full integrated support for Epson Stylus DX 8400 (my printer – selfish I know)
    -ktorrent included
    -linux dcpp included (dc++) or a kdcpp version made

    >>>>>>>>
    if they manage to do that then I will trash out my windows applications
    good luck to them

  27. Hi, when I try to run it from the login screen, I get “call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full ?).Check your installation”. Thank you for answering, and sorry for my bad English!

  28. jt

    I really don’t understand the trend of making desktop “improvements” that require more keystrokes or clicks to perform the same operation, and use up more screenspace with less useful information.

    As someone previously stated, KDE4 looks like a combination of mac and gnome, heck even the plasma icon looks like a gnome logo.

    I applaud the focus on improving performance; that is one of the most important goals of any desktop development. I just don’t see the need to undermine the usability of the desktop to do so. A really high performance desktop that is unusable is not my idea of an advancement.

    I live in konqueror, the web (I don’t consider konqueror to be a web browser) and email. konqueror no longer seems to be available to do file browsing and management any more, and i can’t figure out how to do something as simple as setting the view in dolphin to do the folder-tree/file arrangementI have been able to use for years on most platforms (with the exception of mac and gnome…). I don’t really care what mail client is included because I use either thunderbird or a proprietary mail in any case.

    I’m not sure what the kde design team was trying to accomplish with the interface changes, but it doesn’t seem top have been the ability to use the desktop efficiently.

    • charles

      To see the tree press F7. You can also toggle the embedded terminal and info bar with similar shortcuts, see View->Panels submenu.

  29. zczc2311

    I am going to wait until openSuse 11.0 final GM release. Going on past experience there will always be bugs and hopefully by the time openSuse 11.0 GM is released most will be corrected with full integration. The mere thought of accurately submitting a bug report to KDE frightens the hell out of me. I dont know why there are so many issues I have experienced with accurate bug reports to KDE, perhaps it a language problem.
    Now if I do find a real bug I submit it to OpenSuse directly as I feel openSuse QA listens and acts on bug issues professionally without personal comments being directed back.
    If you have a horror in dealing with KDE please enter a comment here.

  30. KDE4 failed to startup :(

    I install this KDE4-1Click to my openSUSE (x64),
    But when I login into KDE4 session, it shows “Can not start D-BUS, check installation”

    Where is the problem?

  31. Anand Rangarajan

    There’s a bug in kdelibs4 that prevents lyx-1.5 from loading Encapsulated Postscript images leading to crashes (lyx bug 4409). Can’t run kde4 or even install kdelibs4 until this bug is fixed.

  32. Steve

    Are the http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/ repositories down? I am unable to get to them to install KDE4.

  33. Vladisgol

    I cant install KDE, reference http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/KDE4-DEFAULT.ymp return error 404

  34. I still have the same problem :-( download server down :-(

  35. The download servers are down because they are splitting KDE4 into stable and unstable. I guess they aren’t going to announce it until it is done. Hopefully it will be soon.

    • > The download servers are down because they are splitting KDE4 into stable and unstable.

      Plain wrong. There was a hardware failure of download.opensuse.org, now all KDE repositories are back again.

      • I apologize for that. Please delete the comment if you wish. Lack of sleep = poor posting judgement. I could have at least said “my guess is…” instead of sounding like I knew what the hell I was talking about.

  36. Atle

    Why can’t they do the splitting on some other servers until its ready and the move it to the main servers. It’s a pain in the a.. not being able to keep my system up-to-date. At least the could annonouce it in advance….

  37. navrocky

    I am downloaded LiveCD iso, burn it. But I can’t load from this cd. BIOS write “Booting from CD:” and next booting from hard drive skipping cd. This problem arise on my desktop (AWARD BIOS), but on my laptop (AMI BIOS) booting fine. I try to boot on desktop at work (AWARD BIOS) – don’t booting. This seems to a bug of LiveCD – booting only at AMI BIOS. Previous LiveCD’s also don’t booting.

  38. tux

    hi,
    my error is:
    File ./i586/libggz-0.0.14-5.2.i586.rpm not found on media: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/

    & more similar ..

    OpenSuse10.3 on IBM TP X31

    • Daniel Keller

      I have the same problem. When I try for instance to open in Firefox this URL (which yast claims it can not download):
      http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/noarch/oxygen-icon-theme-4.0-5.4.noarch.rpm

      I get redirected here:
      http://opensuse.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/noarch/oxygen-icon-theme-4.0-5.4.noarch.rpm

      And get the 404-message:
      —————
      Not Found

      The requested URL /pub/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/noarch/oxygen-icon-theme-4.0-5.4.noarch.rpm was not found on this server.
      —————

      Does anybody have a hint to what I should change the repository source?

    • Erwin Panen

      17-01-08 Apparently there has been a problem with some parts of OpenSUSE download servers. I experienced quite some problems because of this situation. It was actually impossible to do a fresh install of 10.3 combined with online update…

      Regularly checking the repository shows that as of this morning everything seems to be back to normal again.

      Installing KDE4 has been a real pain for me, as I was continuously confronted with UNRESOLVABLE dependency issues.
      I finally made it by slimming down my installation (too much gets installed by default b.t.w) , turning to CLI yast, uninstalling KDE, then installing KDE4 Base. Next I ran into the repository problems.
      Today oneclick worked perfect!
      I now have a beautifull and shining KDE4 desktop.

      Does somebody know how to start KDE4 from commandline?
      I can only start it through gdm and there choose KDE4.

      Keep up the good work, and thanks a lot!!

  39. Daniel Keller

    Looks like I could solve this problem by changing the Software installation source for KDE:/KDE4

    I found these once which contain the packages (works for sure with http://ftp.nux.ipb.pt):

    http://ftp.sileman.pl/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/
    http://ftp.nux.ipb.pt/pub/dists/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/
    ftp://ftp.nux.ipb.pt/pub/dists/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/

  40. zak

    I’ve been having the same problems as Dan Keller. I was hopeful that it was due to the hardware failure openSUSE had recently. But everybody else seems to be doing fine now, and I still am having trouble with the KDE4 repo! I’ve tried several mirrors (including http://ftp.nux.ipb.pt). Right now I’m trying sileman.pl. Seems to be working. Does anybody know why the official repos aren’t working here (in Madison WI)? I’ve been having to tweak every repository I’ve used (even the OSS!).

    KDE 4 rocks!

  41. zak

    http://ftp.sileman.pl/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/ is working great! Thanks Daniel! And thanks to all the KDE devs! This is looking like something big!

    I’ll post somewhere els about the repo problems I still have.

  42. nikita

    How can i get rid of the awful system sounds(when opening, closing, resizing, minimizing windows). I hate the monotony of those sounds. Thanks

  43. This is a copy of my message at

    I have been waiting for KDE 4.0 for long time until its release recently. I then decided to install it in my openSUSE 10.3 via 1-click installation (http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4). The installation went just fine then I got a very nice desktop. I was a little surprise to see most icons on my desktop showing as question mark (mostly the default openSUSE icons). I didn’t blame that, maybe Oxigen didn’t offer such icons.

    I then came across with another surprise. I could not switch the default K-Menu to the classic one (as seen on http://www.khmeros.info/drupal/?q=en/node/2542). Another surprise was, I could not move the icons I added to Taskbar. I expected that, there will be a “Move” menu item when I right-click on those icons (see the Dolphin icon in my screenshot below).

    Another worst surprise was http://www.flickr.com/photos/37463129@N00/2209623432/. I got this mess desktop when I moved Firefox icon around (move to the bottom area) the desktop. The Firefox icon even disappeared in the taskbar (it was behind the taskbar). And I have no way to resize or move the Taskbar.

    Last but not least, the Ctrl+Alt+D didn’t work as my expectation either.

    So now what should I suppose to do? Yeah, maybe this is related to openSUSE more than KDE.

  44. KDEmightbegood

    Only thing wrong with KDE4 is I can’t work out how to decrease to size of the bottom bar!!

  45. bcthe

    problem!! I am using Opensuse 10.3 with KDE3.5.7,
    I use 1 click install on software.opensuse.org to install KDE 4 default,
    it’s successfully installed, after reboot the opensuse, it still kde3.5.7, not kde 4,
    and the installed icons place on ‘new applications’ , why?
    how can i uninstall kde 4?
    and how turn 3.5.7 to 4?

  46. Phill Upson

    I read a few interesting comments about the ‘lack of quality’ or KDE4 and various other complaints. Can we remember that its taken MS 5 years to get from XP to Vista, 1 complete restart of the project and a total neglect of IE during that time. All this happened with the backing of the biggest software company on earth that has, compared to KDE, virtually limitless resources. The end result was an OS that looks consumes more power than kde+compiz, looks worse and still faced a complete lack of software initially which is now the responsibility of the market to respond to. On the other hand we have KDE, free, open and we can all get involved in its development, it seems to perform well and sure, has a few niggles, but then again, anybody here not heard of Service Packs??? NT went all the way up to 6a, 2000 had at least 4, XP got 3 and vistas first is either out or due soon, I can’t remember.

    Be cool people, some things are a moving goal :)

    Finally, for those of you worried about stability, before installing anything, go and check its bug database. Thanks to the beauty of the open world, they won’t try to hide the flaws from you, thus allowing you to make a superb, informed consumer decision.

    Finally, a huge thank you to all the people that get this stuff done :)

  47. amdturion

    Hello,
    I have installed latest KDE4 Desktop on my opensuse 10.3.
    I like the new environment, however I noticed a bug whenever I attempt to use opensuse-updater-kde as normal user:

    kdesu(9932)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::KDEsuClient::command: [
    /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.0.4/kdesu/client.cpp : 211 ] no reply from
    daemon

    Only root succeed on this task.

    BR.

    • I am using 11.0 with KDE 4 and never saw this error – until today! I have been updating normally prior to this. Not sure the cause or fix – but thanks for the note that it works as root – am updating now as root!

      Mark

  48. Akputhhh

    KDE 4 one click install starts dependency HELL for me; see below:

    I’m on opensuse 10.3 x86_64. No matter how many respositories I enable; This is really screwed up.

    amarok has missing dependencies
    There are no installable providers of libkonqsidebarplugin.so.1()(64bit) for amarok-1.4.9.1-100.pm.1.x86_64
    === amarok-1.4.9.1-100.pm.1.x86_64 ===
    kdebase3-3.5.7-87.2.x86_64[openSUSE-10.3-Updates] provides libkonqsidebarplugin.so.1()(64bit), but it is uninstallable. Try installing it on its own for more details.
    kdebase3-3.5.7-87.5.x86_64 provides libkonqsidebarplugin.so.1()(64bit), but is scheduled to be uninstalled.
    amarok-1.4.9.1-100.pm.1.x86_64 depends on kdebase3
    amarok-1.4.9.1-100.pm.1.x86_64 is lacking the requirement libkonqsidebarplugin.so.1()(64bit)
    (null)
    Conflict Resolution:
    ( ) delete amarok
    ( ) Ignore this requirement just here
    baghira has missing dependencies
    There are no installable providers of kdebase3 >= 3.5 for baghira-0.8-0.pm.0.x86_64
    === baghira-0.8-0.pm.0.x86_64 ===
    kdebase3-3.5.7-87.2.i586[openSUSE-10.3-Updates] provides kdebase3 == 3.5.7-87.2, but it is uninstallable. Try installing it on its own for more details.
    kdebase3-3.5.7-87.5.x86_64 provides kdebase3 == 3.5.7-87.5, but is scheduled to be uninstalled.
    baghira-0.8-0.pm.0.x86_64 depends on kdebase3
    baghira-0.8-0.pm.0.x86_64 is lacking the requirement libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit)
    (null)
    Conflict Resolution:
    ( ) delete baghira
    ( ) Ignore this requirement just here
    compiz-kde has missing dependencies
    There are no installable providers of libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit) for compiz-kde-0.7.4-13.1.x86_64
    === compiz-kde-0.7.4-13.1.x86_64 ===
    kdebase3-3.5.7-87.2.x86_64[openSUSE-10.3-Updates] provides libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit), but it is uninstallable. Try installing it on its own for more details.
    kdebase3-3.5.7-87.5.x86_64 provides libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit), but is scheduled to be uninstalled.
    compiz-kde-0.7.4-13.1.x86_64 depends on kdebase3
    compiz-kde-0.7.4-13.1.x86_64 is lacking the requirement libkdecorations.so.1()(64bit)
    (null)
    Conflict Resolution:
    ( ) delete compiz-kde
    ( ) Ignore this requirement just here
    guarddog has missing dependencies

  49. since sue jumped into bed with MS i have stopped using it on my computers and i’m just a casual user btw. I ditched MS to move to linux, and I don’t want my linux experience infested with the rancid smell of corporate greed. SUSE ……..you smell.

  50. Michael Gerdau

    KDE4 may be all shiny and new and full of eyecandy and whatsoever. Without KMail/KDEpim it is not ready for primetime. Or how am I expected to do my daily (email) work -centered around Kontact- on KDE4?

    Sorry folks, unless there is a viable alternative (and no, Thunderbird isn’t it) KDE4 is nothing more than a technology study.