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Announcing openSUSE 11.0 Beta 1
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The openSUSE team is proud to announce the first Beta release of openSUSE 11.0! There are many exciting enhancements and features in the new release. Among these is the incredibly fast package management (libzypp), KDE 3.5.9 and 4.0.3, GNOME 2.22.1, a beautiful new installer, live CDs and much more.
What’s New
The openSUSE 11.0 beta 1 includes quite a few changes and new features that users will find interesting, including:
KDE 4 and KDE 3.5: The openSUSE 11.0 beta 1 includes KDE 4.0.3, which includes a number of new features, fixes, and optimizations. See the KDE4 page for more info on the KDE4 branch. To help test, see the wiki for info on reporting bugs in KDE. Not quite ready to move to KDE4? No worries, the beta includes an installation option for KDE 3.5 in addition to KDE4.
GNOME 2.22: Beta 1 includes GNOME 2.22.1 with plenty of new features and packages. Interested in helping with testing for GNOME in openSUSE 11.0? See the wiki for all the info you need.
YaST ported to Qt4: openSUSE’s administration and installation tool, YaST, has been ported to Qt4, providing beautiful styling for the installer, and an improved look for areas such as package management.
Screenshots!
Here’s a quick look at openSUSE 11.0 beta 1:
For some more screenshots head over to Screenshots/openSUSE_11.0_Beta1 on the wiki.
Under the Hood
New Package Management Solver and Meta-data: the package management stack of openSUSE, libzypp, has seen constant improvements since the last release. We introduced a new SAT solver (slides, video) and repository metadata that means that openSUSE’s package management works at a lightning-fast speed.
Installation in 24 minutes: Due to changes within the installation media itself and the advances in openSUSE’s package management, an openSUSE installation is now well over 60% faster, completing in roughly just 24 minutes! (Your mileage may vary, offer not valid for 486s…)
Other:
- Linux kernel 2.6.25-rc9
- updated gcc 4.3 branch
- libzypp 3.12.1
- PackageKit 0.2.0
- AppArmor 2.3
- Xen 3.2.1 RC1
- glibc 2.8 CVS
- PulseAudio 0.9.10
Obsessive package watchers can find a list of packages in Factory that’s updated daily. (Just see the column labeled “Factory.”)
Important Changes Since Alpha 3
Several important changes have happened since Alpha 3 was released, most notably:
- Updated NetworkManager 0.7 SVN
- RPM payload switch to LZMA (results in smaller RPM packages and faster installation of them)
- DVD uses images for installation (speed-up)
A more detailed list of changes is available via the Factory
Information and Download
Remember that this is a beta. It may not be safe to run for production systems, and should be used by users interested in testing the next release of openSUSE for bugs.
Most Annoying Bugs
Live-CD
- x86_64 live CDs do not fit on 700MB, need to be tested with DVD-R
- Asks you to type the kernel name (on the boot prompt) which fails, just press <return>
- Live-CD does not start X in VirtualBox (Bug #374710) Workaround: Log in as root, run “sax2 -m 0=vesa” then “rcxdm restart”
- Live-CD installer does not work (Bug #377565, Bug #381153)
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DVD
- Adding of system users is broken, see below
- Changing something in the bootloader proposal causes broken menu.lst (Bug #380781)
- License text still from 10.3 (
Bug #381158)
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General
- Patterns or patches will never be shown as selected (Bug #380356)
- GNOME Main Menu (and some other apps) are slow to respond (Bug #375701) Workaround: Click on volume control in the panel, Configure local sound server then check “Enable network access to local sound devices”
- GDM does not start, missing gdm user (
Bug #381227), Fix: Reinstall gdm as below to work around - NVIDIA driver doesn’t compile. Workaround: check here for a patch.
Missing System Users in 11.0 Beta1
There is a Bug which affects the adding of system users in several packages on both LiveCD and DVD installation. You have to reinstall them to get the correct users created on your system. You can do so either in YaST or use zypper like:
for i in aaa_base avahi beagle cups dbus-1 festival fuse \
gdm hal ntp openssh PolicyKit postfix pulseaudio pwdutils \
samba scrollkeeper uuid-runtime yast2-registration; \
do rpm -q $i && echo zypper in -f -n $i; done
See the Bugs:Most_Annoying_Bugs_11.0_dev page on the wiki for an up-to-date list.
Call for Testing
If you want to help testing our standard test-cases, please coordinate with others and subscribe to the opensuse-testing@opensuse.org (subscribe) mailing list to help with our organized testing.
Media and Download
openSUSE 11.0 Beta 1 for i386, x86-64 and PPC comes as different media sets, all of which can be downloaded from http://software.opensuse.org/developer.
Comments, Feedback and Helping
openSUSE 11.0 Beta 1 is a great time to start testing-out openSUSE 11.0 before it is officially released. You can directly help and contribute to the openSUSE distribution by filing bug reports and giving feedback to the developers.
- Reporting bugs: Please report all bugs you find on in our Bugzilla as explained on bugs.openSUSE.org.
- Discussion and feedback is very welcome as well; the most appropriate place is the opensuse-factory@opensuse.org (subscribe) mailing list. Or in the #opensuse-factory IRC channel.
For other queries and ways to communicate with the openSUSE community take a look at the Communicate wiki page.
The next planned release is openSUSE 11.0 Beta 2 on May 2.
Forbidden
You don’t have permission to access /opensuse/distribution/11.0-Beta1/iso/torrent/openSUSE-11.0-Beta1-DVD-i386.torrent on this server.
And we shall now guess what mirror “this server” is?
Will installable live CDs as stable as a normal 1 CD installation in 11.0 or still experimental?
Currently it looks like there will be no “normal 1 CD installation” for 11.0 but only Live-CDs. So they are expected to be as stable then. Unfortunately the live-installer on Beta 1 CDs is rather broken.
This is a bad move for those of us on slow internet who cannot download the dvd to customize our install, leaving us with a live cd is a bad move, everyone likes to customize their install, not be stuck with a an image install full of programs we don’t want and then have to uninstall.
Does anyone know of a decent distro where you can download single cd’s that are live?
I think you will be able to download the small network installation cd and download just the stuff you need during the installation. (However, keeping those packages for creating an installation medium for multiple installations may be a bit tricky.)
I’ll probably get crucified for saying this, but Ubuntu is a full LiveCD + Install on one CD-R
Can you select which packages do you want to install in Ubuntu? openSUSE live CDs will also be installers as well, the problem is that you won’t be able to configure the installation.
no you cant.
KGet is downloading … 250 Mb already completed
Getting it tested!
What “DVD uses images for installation (speed-up)” exactly means? It’s about “put images of default patterns on the DVDs” on coolo blog?
From the description here I understand that the installation isn’t installing RPMs but copying a single image of the OS to the HD (isn’t that what the LiveCD does?). And from the description at coolo blog I understand that the DVD has a copy of repositories metadata (makes sense, that data is big and never changes).
But english isn’t my first language and so…
Yeah, that it’s supposed to mean.
Then how can we install specific packages (if we need a few packages from a pattern but not the whole pattern)?
You don’t have to care about, the installation handles it. Either it doesn’t use images then or removes a few packages immediately after that pattern image has been installed.
In fact, it will most probably add more packages, as the images are stripped down to the required packages. But removal might happen as well.
u have made an excellent work on polishing kde4, remove the black frame around icons and the ability to move applet on panel.
thanks all, opensuse rock, but please your marketing department is not doing the right job, by all the means opensuse is the best distribution out here. please make more people aware of it.
friendly
kde4 livecd is not getting up on…..virtualbox
Confirmed - first when you type “Live-System” it say that “no image” -> simply “return” required with no text.
But after system started only console is avalible - kdm fail to start. Quick search and I found answer - no virtualbox graphic card driver. So in xorg.conf you must change line “driver” so X use vesa driver and then “startx”.
thanx got it..:)
Bug 381563 reported.Someone could confirm?
It’s from the beginning in the most “most annyoing bugs” list (which also tells a work-around), no need to confirm or file more duplicate bug reports.
What about deltaiso?
Please read http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0-Beta1/iso/delta/README
Is that mean that there will be no deltas in update repository?
This has nothing to with the updates repository.
But only for this Beta1 release or for ever?
Only for this release of course.
I think openSUSE 11.0 will be one of the most amazing pieces of software ever released, all joking aside. It shows just how amazing Linux and the open source community is. Great job to everyone working on this, and we’re all counting down until the release!
The screenshots display an amazing amount of polish since the previous Alpha! Also the news of the install taking less time is also phenomenal. I decided not to test the previous alphas due to bug #371976 (Update repositories not being added to updater). Can anybody confirm or deny this bug being fixed? There appears to be no new information on it.
Regardless, keep up the pace! Opensuse 11 will be truly groundbreaking.
As you can see that bug report is still open and there is still no (test) updates repository.
I hope your going to change the bootsplash screen too… I bet you can make it really good. another idea would be to allow a 1280×800 bootsplash and install screen resolution, it looks far better than 1024×768 on my laptop
The cd’s are now live cd’s. Are we able to instal what we want from these cd’s? Last time I installed a live cd it installed everything rather than giving the option to install what you want. Which was a waste for me since I do not want a lot of what it installed.
ALso it would be great if there was a way we could have a bare minimal instal cd. For example. I’m on dial up speed, takes me about a day to download the cd. There is a lot on the cd that I don’t want, openoffice, games, etc. What would be great is a bare operating cd, that we can install, then grab the programs that we want from the repo’s.
You can do a network install with the final just fine. Just look in the wiki - for now this is only available for Factory.
The Live-CD installer doesn’t allow you to select packages, but I think deinstalling within the live system what you don’t want before calling the live installer should work.
so why then make the kde and gnome single cd a live cd. This is just leaves people havng to instal packages they do not want. the single cd’s should not be made live cd’s.
Is it just because it’s a beta? Where is the root password get installed? The install goes right from disk to user, with asking if one wants to make the username the administrator. Did Opensuse give up security?
I haven’t installed the beta it, but in the alpha’s you were given the option to make the user password the root password, which I considered a move in the wrong direction security wise.
It’s simple you just unmarkl the box saying “take this as admin-passwort” or something like this, and in the next step you can configure your root-pwd.
Two questions:
1. Does openSUSE 11 now support full disk encryption during install?
2. What’s the best strategy to “update” a 10.3 system if you have a separate home partition? Do a new install and copy over the home partition? Does the installer recognize an encrypted home partition?
What about letting the installer create the home directories in /, configure the encrypted partition to be mounted to /home and then delete the default content of the /home in the / partition?
Opensuse 11.0 beta 1 looks great.
I had problem during installation. Right side of screen diapperad outside the frame (including “next”) I am using HP 23″ screen. Autologin does not work. GDM is looking for user “gdm”. No mounting of USB devices.
same as above, the right side of the installer window is outside of the frame, the gnome cd starts ok, the home part. from preview install is mounted, but in the installer there is no disk detected….so i can’t even install it…nice.
I will wait for beta 2…..maybe than.
come on 404 leachers and 90 seeders! where are you guys, this is Slow… im uploading 40KB/s and downloading 2KB/s ;(
Just for info there are DVDs which you can get by FTP for this release (owing to lack of deltas)
http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/11.0-Beta1/iso/dvd/
Too late, I have downloaded it all now, but there was no seeders for a time, but im still seeding it.
Great job with beta 1! Installed very quickly. The OS is VERY snappy! A lot of stuff “just works” without having to hack stuff together like in 10.3. Unfortunetely wireless still doesn’t work out of box, but thats Broadcom’s fault.
There’s just one thing i didn’t get yet…
PackageKit is only available in the GNOME version of OpenSuse11, right???
If so, what about KDE???
Thanks
The KDE4 opensuse-updater has a PackageKit backend. For the other tasks the YaST-Qt package selector is way better than dumb PackageKit package selector (which is Gtk+ and has no mature Qt equivalent).
well… it may be dumb… but it’s a lot easier… at least it’s a step forward to make my mother able to remove the application she just installed…
If you guys would built somekind of package manager capable of uninstalling any application that was installed (by 1-click install or by traditional means) without the user need to know anything more than the name,this, yes, would be a very good step… I know, I know… Yast is great and all… but let’s see it right: If you change from windows… Yast is going to be a very big S**T!!! And not less than that… it’s way to complicated… you have to select packages and little packages and… everything else…
Why not something where we can select an application to be removed and by that everything that is related to it( repos included) get removed… in another words… something that would reverse 1-click installations totally as well as traditional RPM installations…
that would be a smarter step… but i think you haven’t yet realized the importance of this… well… maybe when Ubuntu, Fedora or any other distro make it you’ll look and say “oh… lets make that as well…”
but for the moment, since no one is used to use windows (what is a windows os???) this is not a big need… because everyone is used to use complicated software and everyone does love complicated things like Yast and packages and repos and everything else…
In fact opensuse does not need users at all… at least not windows users… he just needs professional/expert users… that goal of becoming the easiest linux distro is just talk…
in fact… my mother loves all this complicated things… she used to work on linux kernel… but then she got bored for it being so easy…
so… there is no need for this to be done for opensuse 11… lets wait until others do it first… oh… wait… let me check that… maybe others already has this done…
anyway… excuse me for being so direct and sarcastic… but i don’t really expect any reply to this…
this is the kind of comment that does not matter anyway… i’m just one person, that in fact even seems to be dumb… everyone knows how to code and remove packages and repos and dependecies and… everything… so no need to be worried at all
once again: excuse me for being so direct and sarcastic
My mother is in her 60’s. Never used linux before, always been on windows. I moved her to opensuse when it was on 10.2. She has had no problem with it. So, I really have no idea what your problem is. I’ve also moved quite a number of friends from windows to opensuse 10.3, and they likewise have had no issues with it all.
Guess some people just like to complain? Because I’ve had windows users, who have opened up Yast, understood it, added repo’s, opened up software manager added removed software, updated software. Really, it’s as easy as can gets and it doesn’t needed to be dumbed down any further
The plan is to use the updaters by default. The rest of gnome-PackageKit should work as well, but there the default still is YaST.
Saw a comment in the Most Annoying Bugs that mentioned the 10.3 License text in 11.0 was fixed. However on the very first screen the License is tagged as 10.3.
What’s listed there for Beta 1 and is marked as fixed was fixed post-Beta 1.
I’m using OpenSUSE 11 Beta 1 Live now, and it looks and feels great. Well done!
I tried my best to boot the LiveCD. Unfortunately it says it cannot find the ‘Live-System’ kernel. Anyone facing the same?
Just press <return>, don’t type anything else.
Yes, me. Repoted bug 381671. You can confirm in bugzilla.
I don’t like the color of the window (KDE 4), I like a more darke blue.
The new zypper is very fast. Amazing and great job guys. My main gripe with opensuse is gone. wow!!
I have a problem when installing from the live cd. The installer hangs up when I’m supposed to select my country and time format. In that point I must hard-reset the computer and start the process all over again.
The Live-Cd works great, excpet from the fact that I can’t install it.
Always read the list of “Most Annoying Bugs” before installing/running!
people shouldn’t have to, the moment it is found that the live cd wont install the option to download it should be removed. Instead of leaving it up there so people waste their time downloading it.
I am unable to install from the KDE4-live cd. I have tried this on two separate laptops — one with Nvidia card and the other with intel 915. Both are fairly recent in hardware specs. The installer fails when going from ‘Accept License’ screen to ‘Time and Date’ screen.
On the log screen that you get with Alt-F10, I found some error with one of the X libraries. So, I tried running the install from a text console. That failed as well. Once the installer hangs, the entire system is locked and I have to hard poweroff the laptop.
Has anyone else faced this yet? BTW, I haven’t tried the GNOME live-cd.
Always read the list of “Most Annoying Bugs” before installing/running!
I wish openSUSE 11.0 will fix the sound problem in Dell Vostro 1400 Series Notobook. I am not able to play or listen to anything with openSUSE 10.3 even after downloading and updating all patches and codecs fully.
This is a small issue for many but a new Linux user like me, it is very-very disappointing. I’ve tested my notebook with mandiva Spring 2008.1, PCLinuxOS Mini Me 2008, PCLinuxOS 2007 and Ubuntu 7.10. All went well and my sound was working fine.
Yet, I am very attracted to openSUSE and thus decided to use it for my office work and I am loving it. If only the sound works….
Ask this on a suse forum, the news site isnt a great place to ask for help, but at a forum or on IRC chat, someone can help you, I bet they can help you thru fixing your sound
It even could be that your volume slider is muted 
I would like to add that openSUSE 10.3 sound does not work also with Dell Vostro 1500 & 1700 Series Notebooks. My buddies are using those notebook series and they face the same problem even after updating their system completely and downloading all codecs.
If you want this to be fixed in the final release then please file a bug report about it! Instructions at http://bugs.opensuse.org
I have to disagree with the sound problem. I am running OpenSUSE 10.3 on a Vostro 1500 and have no problems whatsoever. I have the default sound card (don’t know off the top of my head and don’t have the laptop here), so maybe if your friend is using a different card?
Is there an installer for the Beta Gnome live cd? i dind’t find any icon
Always check the most annoying bugs list first — there was a nasty bug affecting the installation from live CDs, but you can still install from the DVD for this release.
XGL?
openSUSE + KDE 4 :drool:
!!!
Thanks guys for doing such an awesome job!!!!
May I have one request though:
Could you please delay the final release of openSUSE 11 until AFTER KDE 4.1 comes out?
That would be so great.
I’m going to add this to a wiki page soon, but to sum up:
There are several reasons for not delaying the release of openSUSE 11.0 in order to get a later version of KDE 4:
* KDE 4.1 is scheduled for release in July. This would mean delaying openSUSE 11.0 by at least two to three months, as time is required for stabilisation. This would push the gap between openSUSE 10.3 and 11.0 to over 10 months, which directly conflicts with our release cycle.
* KDE 4.1 might be delayed again even further (as some of the releases in the KDE4 cycle so far).
* KDE 4.1 will not solve all problems known to KDE, it will still have several issues of maturity in comparison to the long-standing KDE 3.5.x.
* Other projects (like SUSE Linux Enterprise) are directly dependent on our release cycle