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Sneak Peeks at openSUSE 11.0: New Installer, with Stephan Kulow

June 5th, 2008 by

I’m glad to announce the beginning of the Sneak Peaks at openSUSE 11.0 series! Over the next few weeks we will be taking a look at all of the exciting changes and improvements in openSUSE 11.0, with each article being followed by an interview with a developer in the field.

Today we will be taking a look at the new installer that has been developed for openSUSE 11.0, offering significant improvements over our previous version, with an incredibly appealing look, easier to complete, and a lot faster. We will also be talking to Stephan Kulow, KDE core developer and openSUSE project manager.

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DVD Installer

 

New Look

With KDE 4 being adopted in the upcoming openSUSE 11.0, YaST was ported over to Qt4 as well. This brought many enhancements, including the possibility of using Qt “css-like” stylesheets for customising the look of YaST. Since YaST is used for the installer as well, this meant that it could easily acquire a great new look. Our resident artist Jakub ‘Jimmac’ Steiner came up with a great design, and together with Stephan Kulow it was implemented.

Desktop Selectionos110beta2-inst4-thumb.jpgos110beta2-inst9-thumb.jpg

The dark green-grey theme is also used throughout openSUSE 11.0 for splash and boot screens. I think the reader will agree that it provides a very distinguished and polished look to the distribution. Thanks to Kevin Dupuy, you can also see a full installation walkthrough on the openSUSE wiki.

Quicker, Faster, Smarter

As well as a visual change, the installer underwent many structural and ‘under-the-hood’ changes to make the installation both easier and quicker. Many steps are now consolidated or removed where unnecessary, meaning that you can perform an entire openSUSE installation with just seven clicks! To see the full transition, check out Kulow’s talk at FOSDEM (video, slides).

We also switched to a pattern image-based installation, making the base installation an awful lot quicker. Package management has been significantly improved (watch out for the forthcoming Sneak Peeks article). The package management is now the fastest, smartest, and best performing of its kind, which also directly impacts on the installation time.

For openSUSE 11.0 we also made the switch from bzip2 to LZMA payload, resulting in both smaller RPMs (meaning the media can contain more packages and downloads are smaller), and faster decompression (meaning quicker installation of these packages). This switch alone means that RPM installation in some cases is up to 2.6 times faster!

All of these changes now mean that you can perform a complete openSUSE installation in under 20 minutes!

Live Installer

 

One of the primary media changes in openSUSE 11.0 is the removal of the previous 1-CD installation CDs. Now you have the chance of either the DVD installation (with KDE, GNOME, Xfce and much more), or a single GNOME live CD, or a KDE live CD — both of which are installable. For a complete overview of the new layout scheme, see Media Layout/11.0 on the wiki.

os110beta3-live-inst2-thumb.png os110beta3-live-inst6-thumb.pngGNOME Live CD Installer

The live installer has the convenience of allowing you to sample the complete distribution before choosing to install it, and to still have the opportunity to surf online, play a game or edit a document during the installation.

Talk with Stephan Kulow

 

How important are all of these changes to the installer, for the distribution?

I think the installation is the key difference between distributions. One would hope this is not the case because users will not be using it much longer after installing it, but because especially in times when a DVD download only takes a couple of hours, many new users try installing different distributions and if the installation is too complicated, they will overwrite the DVD with their favorite pictures and go on without openSUSE.

The other point is that many new users base their decision for their distribution on the oppinion of reviewers, both professional journalists and amateur bloggers. And the installation is usually a strong part of those reviews, most likely because of my first point: it’s not only the first, but very often the biggest point of difference between distributions. E.g. the desktops are in a much stronger way driven by upstream projects.

So the most important thing we wanted to do is innovate, try something that wasn’t done before and at the same time turn around our installation, but still just up to the point that we do not throw out people well-acquianted with our previous versions. E.g. I got a lot of good feedback when the first screenshots of Alpha2 were released, so I think we’ll see many more users trying openSUSE than with previous versions. That’s simply because the screenshots look different to what others have done.

At the same time I truly think that many existent users will appreciate the simplifications – at least most of the people I spoke to were pleased.

What are the challenges when improving the installer?

The biggest problem: no-one likes working on the installer. The system booted from DVD (“installation system”) is very different from what you get when you run YaST in the running system. So most problems really need to be debugged there. At the same time this is all in RAM – so you can’t very easily add tons of debugging tools. It’s always a compromise and most often you need to help yourself creating test environments that try to emulate what the DVD does.

Fortunately, because of the good virtualization solutions around, this is not so much of a problem as it used to be. Still, it can be very hard and complex. As a wise Fürther once said: “The task of the leader is to get his people from where they are to where they have not been”. So I spent several days learning how it all works and what can be done and what can’t and how we can improve it. This helped to motivate the team to think of even better ways and the outcome is very promising I think.

Have any of the changes been controversial?

Oh yes. I think all of them :)

People who love openSUSE have various reasons to do so. And if you love something, you tend to both overlook the weaknesses and even start loving them. And one weakness of the installation process of 10.3 and before was that we only added things to it. But each of these additions found someone that loved it. So everything we changed always was reacted with “no matter what you do, make sure X is still there” – for many X.

So for example, we now have a checkbox “Use Automatic Configuration” very early in the installation process, which will switch between “make it simple and fast, even if I have to touch one or two pieces afterwards” and “I want to review everything to make sure you got it right to begin with”.

But I think the most controversial change is to suggest using the same strong password for the first user and root. While studies show that more than 3/4 of people do it anyway (those studies were not for SUSE of course, but for general password usage), suggesting it as default raised several concerns from people that tend to use weak passwords for users. But this is of course also an option easily available to the security aware people.

Are there any plans for the future?

What we want to improve and missed the time to really perfect is the partitioning. Windows users are usually fine with their operating system suggesting to erase every other system, but many Linux users prefer it differently. At the same time, partitioning is a very complex topic you can easily scare users with. So we’re still gathering input on what to do, so that users can easily understand what is going on and perhaps have easier control on what the installer does.

But with so many file systems and partition types available, it’s really hard to make it easy. So stay tuned.

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55 Responses to “Sneak Peeks at openSUSE 11.0: New Installer, with Stephan Kulow”

  1. Splash

    I love the new installer! Nice looking and fast. I mean REALLY fast. I forgot to uncheck the automatic configuration button, went to smoke a cigarette and after I came back in the new system was already up and running.

  2. Beineri

    Great to see the Sneak Peeks series return for openSUSE 11.0! :-)

  3. Yeah, thanks Francis for these Sneak Peeks series!
    They are really helpful when someone want to summarize the newest and coolest things in the latest openSUSE version to the others ;-)

  4. jackjack

    Everything looks great. I’m considering trying out openSUSE (used to Mac and Windows), and this new version of openSUSE 11 looks great and simple to use (rare, for Linux). But I’m wondering, why do the taskbar icons in the KDE screenshots look blurry? Is that just one of the last-minute bugs or something?

    • Beineri

      Likely because YaST doesn’t provide them in greater size than 16×16.

  5. Tsiolkovsky

    The new Qt 4 installer looks really awesome. The only thing that make it loos a bit ugly are the arrows besides dropdown boxes. I guess this will be fixed in the final version. Together with the new installer and KDE 4 this release of KDE is going to be really sweet. Keep up the great work.

  6. Hello from Germany,
    I really love OpenSuse 11 and the installer looks really good. In fact the partitioning is very hard to understand for users from windows. I think it would be also good if the installer asks: “Should Windows removed or keep Windows?” Than you can easier automaticly partitioning and if you wish changes you can do it manually.
    A other big topic is the multimedia integration of mp3, mpeg, dvd,… . When I show a Linux installation to a new linux user, he cannot believe how difficult it is to install the multimedia package with all the repositories. Installing the multimedia package automatically during the installation would be perfect. So when starting OpenSuse you can hear your mp3 or watch dvd.

    Thx for your great work and I am looking for the next versions of OpenSuse.

    By the way I have a internet site for dentists and I will write an article about using Linux(OpenSuse)as dentists. I hope that a lot of people join the Linux Community.

    • Beineri

      The DVD comes with mp3 playback included, for the other thing I heard something about 1-click installation links being available ;-)…

    • Dennis Smink

      Yeah, that would be nice would it not? Unfortunately… we had these codecs (libdvdcss and mp3 libs) in SuSE 9.3. But they had to remove it because of copyright and stuff…

      That being said, there are some great rpm / tgz / tar.gz files online that fix this within a minute.

      So, it’s not OpenSuSE could not install them for you.. they’re just not allowed!

    • Francis Giannaros

      See http://opensuse-community.org/Multimedia

  7. John

    What about those of us who like to have a strong password for root and for first user?

    • You can still have a strong password, there’s nothing in openSUSE 11.0 stopping you. In fact, it’s of course recommended.

    • Beineri

      As written that’s the default. :-) If you mean passwordS, that’s also possible.

  8. Paul Valley

    I think the only thing that is lacking in SUSE is OpenOffice 2.4 and GNUCash 2.4 other then that a great system

  9. Robert

    Great improvements guys, thanks for your efforts.

    For the unaware, there is a neat feature on the ‘Live Cd’ that allows the live installer to launch from the console in text mode, this would be very handy for installing on older – low memory – systems, that maybe considered an “equivalent” to the single install cd. Typing ‘init 3′ as a boot option will get one to a bash console prompt. Typing, as root – ‘su -’, ‘yast2′ or ‘yast’ will launch the yast2 tool-set in text mode and the ‘yast2 live-installer’ is found under the ‘Miscellaneous’ category option. The installer can also be launched directly by typing (as root) ‘yast2 live-installer’. IMHO, this is a very useful feature that should be documented in the ‘Release Notes’

    Also, I would like to bring to your attention the issue of Grub multi-boot incompatibilities caused by the new default 256 inode size. A warning should be included in the ‘Release Notes’ about the possible problems and tips on workarounds, e.g. how to format in 128 inode size.

    With respect,
    Robert

    • AFT

      quote from Robert

      > Also, I would like to bring to your attention the issue of Grub multi-boot incompatibilities caused by the new default 256 inode size. A warning should > be included in the ‘Release Notes’ about the possible problems and tips on workarounds, e.g. how to format in 128 inode size.

      Yes, Yes, Yes! I got caught by this a few weeks ago (with another distro) and spent several frustrated days messing about & reinstalling things until I found out what the problem was. This is a *major* problem for even experienced (but non-expert) users, let alone those new to Linux. I’m cross that so little (or no) attention has been payed to it by ‘distro-makers’.

      • coolo

        a) this part of our release notes
        b) people new to linux won’t have two linux installed I may hope

  10. is it safe to direct upgrade from openSUSE10.3 to openSUSE11

  11. Is there any feature available in openSUSE 11.0 which can help me setup my EDGE modem easily?

  12. Steve

    Congratulations to the team and contributors and thank you for all the hard work.
    I look forward to the improvements (thought I was not unhappy with 10.3, and KDE 3.5, and OO., etc.)

    I hope that you have “accidentally” fixed my mouse wheel problem (it does not work) in 11.0, that got broken in 10.3, that worked in 10.2.
    I even bought another mouse, but to no avail.

  13. I love the new installer! But i think that the color template is better like the Alpha 2! Transparent with green background!

    Byezzzz
    hawake

  14. Marcos

    Congratulations, thanks for OpenSuse 11.0!

  15. Rob Manzoni

    I’d like to see (working) support for the SETI initiative. My IT-ability is mediocre, and despite several bits of “handy” advice, I cant get it to run.

    I have four computers in my centre (a paragliding school and flyers’ back-packer accommodation); and these are always running for guests’ convenience. I want to contribute the slack time to BOINC programmes, but I’m getting nowhere…

    Rob

  16. Rob Manzoni

    ..what I didn’t say was that I’ve used SUSE linux as my OS since SuSE 8 Professional; and with each new version the installation and setup gets easier. 10.3 is great. but after the many positive comments on the various lists, I’ll be downloading Open SUSE 11 alpha.x as soon as it’s available to non-geeks.

  17. Peter

    Some feedback on the Grub installer from practical experience in multi-boot environment:
    1. I have 3 ntfs primary partitions + Extended partition with 5 ext3, 1 Linux Swap, 1 fat32 and 2 more ntfs logical partitions. I have XP OS on sda1, XP Programs on sda2 and XP Data on sda3 but the Grub installer in openSUSE always picks ALL 3 NTFS primary partitions as boot options, clearly 2 should not be selected (Ubuntu 8.04 installer correctly picks just sda1).

    2. Where I leave ONE EMPTY EXT3 partition to allow for the suse install, e.g sda8 (sda7 – ubuntu 8.04, sda9 – old 10.3 home, sda10 – Mepis 7.0 and sda11 – fedora 9), it selects one of the other linux OS partitions for the home directory. Choosing to edit the mounting point and changing the home partition mount to the old suse one, the installer —->unnecessarily WANTS TO WIPE THE LABEL ON THE OLD AUTO SELECTION. This behavior should be looked at and corrected, IMO. To get out of wiping partition labels, I had to refresh the partition editor in the expert extra options.

    3. On the latest Factory update, the grub installer messed up the Mepis boot entry because it just had vmlinuz and not full kernel number parameters by inserting/appending the suse kernel parameters. This is NOT PLAYING NICE!

    Cheers

  18. Christopher Estep

    The new installer for 11.0 (I started with 11.0 RC1, and ran that Monster Update Saturday) is Rather Nice, even if you *aren’t* a fan of KDE (I actually have GNOME+Compiz Fusion as my default). This is also the first Linux distribution that supports DRI on my X1650PRO AGP (using, surprisingly enough, the closed-source drivers). I may take a look at KDE via VB (either on this partition or the Vista partition, which is on another drive). I did it this way because (as is all too typical of most Linux distributions other than Ubuntu) it tends NOT to play nice with Windows (especially Vista). (The big reason why Ubuntu is an exception is Wubi, which not only lets you install Ubuntu FROM Windows 2000/XP/Vista, but *within* any of those operating systems; it works with Feisty Fawn and Gutsy Gibbon, and is included with Hardy Heron. However, I couldn’t get my graphics card to support 3D with Ubuntu.)

  19. Claudio Henrique

    the installer is really good indeed. however it lacks a option to install the system on an encrypted partition, like Fedora 9. I tried to do it, but the installer complained and said that neither of / or /boot could be encrypted. is that so? is there a roadmap to do it in the future? meanwhile, how can I do it?

    • Giuliano

      Not being able to install in an encrypted partition is a great limit for notebook install and server install.
      The software installer make it possible to install in a raid+LVM system, but lacks this critical feature.
      For an enterprise point of view it is a great lack.

      We have four PC and two notebooks in Suse 10.3, but we are now considering different solution because of this limit. At least for the notebooks this limit is hard…

  20. dragonbite

    A good partitioner is very helpful, a bad partitioner can really ruin your day and not necessarily just the partitioner in the Linux distro.

    I’ve tried installing (K)Ubuntu a couple times as a 2nd OS with Windows XP. When I’m done I’m fine but if I go into Windows’ My Comptuer > Properties > Manage to check the disks it has twice now blown out the partition tables for everything after the shared FAT partition (all the ext3s and swaps).

    So a good partitioner is great, a partitioner that Windows doesn’t screw up is priceless :)

    • Peter

      Comment by dragonbite……A good partitioner is very helpful, a bad partitioner can really ruin your day and not necessarily just the partitioner in the Linux distro.

      Very true! Having had several similar experiences (lost my Extended partition with the XP Programs and Data logical partitions, plus the openSUSE 10.2 Ext3 OS and Home partitions) caused by Ubuntu/Kubuntu, I now use 3 primary partitions for XP – OS, Programs and Data – and the Extended for Xp-Swap, Fat32/ntfs share and my other Linux logical partitions. And everything is regularly backed up with Acronis True Image 11.

      A major plus for openSUSE has been its ability to let the user install on a pre-formatted (e.g. by Partition Magic, Paragon Partition Manager, Acronis Disk Director, etc) Ext3 partition/s. And these partition utilities are also designed to work well with Windows XP (Vista needs [latest] versions designed to work with it).

  21. Alexander Swen

    Hi, looks promissing, this new installer!

    Now, I’m wondering if there are a lot of changes to the autoyast options.
    And if I am able to use the downloaded and mounted DVD image to use with PXE to start the install (now, using version 10.3 dvd it complains there is no install media found)
    (this is a snap from my /pxelinux.cfg/default file)
    label suse
    kernel suse/open-10.3/dvd/boot/i386/loader/linux
    append vga=791 initrd=suse/open-10.3/dvd/boot/i386/loader/initrd ramdisk_size=65536 load_ramdisk=1
    instmode=http netdevice=eth0 server=10.107.119.6 serverdir=/inst/suse/open-10.3/dvd autoyast=http://10.107.119.88/inst/suse/open-10.3/default.xml

    for 10.2 installs this worked flawlessly. Not 10.3…. it stops when
    the first setup starts, even before graphical yast starts.

    Never found any documentation on the changes for 10.3… where can I find docu on 11.0? I would like to read ahead…
    thanx!

  22. Alexander Swen

    ohh, btw, no worries about the ip addresses, they both work.
    and off course, when I go into manual then andd fill out the location http://10.107.119.6/inst/suse/open-10.3/dvd it works off course…

  23. Lutz

    I am very excited about the upcoming release of 11.0. I usually try new distributions by installing them on a separate partition on my computer, keeping the current one that is know to work well as a backup in case something doesn’t quite work as expected. It has always frustrated me that I was unable to keep working while installing a new distribution. Wouldn’t it be possible to, say, install 11.0 just as a regular process while working in a 10.3 environment? In other words, I don’t want to “boot” an installation CD or DVD, I just want to run the installer as a regular program, which mainly performs hardware recognition and package selection. I don’t see a technical reason why this shouldn’t be possible, at least when the new installation is on a separate partition. Am I missing something?

  24. Alexander Swen

    Hi Lutz, you could consider using xen, vmware, virtualpc etc…

    • Lutz

      Hi Alexander,

      thanks for the suggestion, this is indeed an option. Has anyone ever tried this?

      On the other hand, it would seem cleaner to me to just run the installer as a regular program. Running it in an VM seems overkill since there really shouldn’t be any reason that one has to boot from the installation medium.

  25. suseuser

    What (if anything) is known to not work in 11.0 that does work in 10.3? I.e., is 11.0 going to break anything that I’ve spent countless hours fixing? Thank you!

  26. Alexander Swen

    @myself: (about pxe booting) finaly found http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Network_Installation_of_SuSE_Linux_via_PXE_Boot wit ha slightly different syntax…
    @Lutz: If you want to run an install of an operating system in a clean environment where one must be able to srew the setup, a virtual host or a dedicated physical test computer are the best choices. as far as I know ther eis no way one can an installer as a process on top of a running OS.

    • Lutz

      Thanks, Alexander. Maybe this functionality will eventually be built in, but for now I will try to install from within a virtual environment.

  27. damico

    Will 11.0 upgrade a 10.3 install?

  28. This look awesome, can’t wait to have it!!!

  29. lhaeger

    are the new LZMA-based rpms rsync-optimized, i.e. will a rpm rebuild containing only minor updates cause rsync to also transmit only minor changes?

  30. Dev Kumar

    Am a hardcore fan for OpenSuSe and currently happy with 10.3, but excited for 11. One thing i want to point – Dell laptops have a big market share, but no where i can see a package specific for Dell laptops, Rather i can see IBM, Toshiba, Sony and Mac too. Do you have any plans for the same ?

    • Very true… it would be nice to have some packages (maybe a nice ndiswrapper config?) for the key hardware. Also, I’ve never had my SD slot working in SuSE whereas Ubuntu has had it natively for some time.

      At any rate, SuSE has been my Linux of choice since v9, and I expect that to continue. Thanks SuSE crew.

  31. Congratulations, I’m proud to use the best OS in the World.

  32. isi

    I accidently disabled the /dev/sr0 repository while updating. Because the description was openSuse 10.3 DVD. There
    was no option to reenable the repo. only a reboot helps here.

    thanx for the great openSUSE 11.0

  33. kwins

    Nice work Guys

  34. praveenkunjapur

    “What we want to improve and missed the time to really perfect is the partitioning. Windows users are usually fine with their operating system suggesting to erase every other system, but many Linux users prefer it differently. At the same time, partitioning is a very complex topic you can easily scare users with. So we’re still gathering input on what to do, so that users can easily understand what is going on and perhaps have easier control on what the installer does.

    But with so many file systems and partition types available, it’s really hard to make it easy.”

    Here are some suggestions of mine -

    1. During installation, in “Suggested Partitioning” pictured here – http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg , there are two options 1.Create Partition Setup and 2. Edit Partition Setup. It would be good idea to integrate both these options into one icon/option.

    2. During installation, in “Suggested Partitioning” pictured here – http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg , when you click on the first option “Create Partition Setup”, there are again two options under “Hard Disk” – 1. IDE… 2. Custom Partition (for experts). Here also we can reduce the two options “IDE” and “Custom Partition (for experts)” to one icon/option so that it will be less intimidating to end-users/ new users and make partitioning very easy for all users.

    3. When you click on “Custom Partition (for experts)”, you are taken to new screen where it shows the layout of the partitions. Below that screen there’s an option “Show Details.” Although it shows us a lot of details, in the end who is interested in all those details. Windows XP installer doesn’t have that stuff. Sure to access all those details, we need to “tick” on the box beside the “Show details” icon. But why have the option “Show Details” in first place?

    4. In the same screen where “Show Details” icon is found, at the bottom of the screen there are options “Create”, “Edit”, “Delete”, “Resize”, “LVM”, “RAID”, “Crypt file”, “NFS”, “Expert.” When you click on the option “Create”, you get a dialog box titled “Partiton Type” with options 1. Primary Partition, 2. Extended Partition.

    When you click on the option “Primary Partition”, a new dialog box opens titled “Create a Primary Partition on /dev/sda.” In that there’s a box called “size.” In that we need to specify “start cylinder number” and “end cylinder number.” Why not remove the thing called “start/end cylinder numbers” and instead have the option to enter the amount of space required for parition in Megabytes (MB) or Gigabyte (GB) like Windows XP and Debian Etch’s new GUI installer allows? In that way it will be lot more easier to create partitions for those who come from Windows XP or for the matter of fact for those who use computers for the first time in their lives.

    5. In the same screen where “Show Details” icon is found, at the bottom of the screen there are options “Create”, “Edit”, “Delete”, “Resize”, “LVM”, “RAID”, “Crypt file”, “NFS”, “Expert.” Just look at the top of the screen. It shows /dev/sda followed with the size of hard disk. When you create a partition, a partition gets created called “sda1, sda2″ and so on. The problem here is the screen does not show us the remaining free space available in the hard disk after creating partitions. We have to calculate on our own to know how much space is still left. It would be great if the computer calculated and shows us how much space is still left after creating partitions (Windows XP installer and Debian Etch’s new GUI installer show the remaining space available in a hard disk after a partition is created.).

    6. openSUSE offers a lot of filesystems to choose from. Each filesystem serves a specific function. When choosing any filesytem, please provide the details as to what each filesystem is meant for in the help menu in the installer. The “details” or information which you provide in the help menu for choosing a specific filesystem will be very much appreciated by all users.

  35. praveenkunjapur

    During partitioning there should be a sub-heading that “in openSUSE we need to create two mandatory filesystems – ‘/’ and swap” for installation and also add “if you want you can add another partition called /home for user home directories.”

  36. praveenkunjapur

    It seems the new ‘green n grey’ installer introduced in openSUSE 11.0 does not work on pcs having 128MB RAM. If that is the case, I wish you cut down the amount of memory required by the new ‘green n grey’ installer. According to this link – http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/06/10/xfce-project-status-report-062008/ , the Xfce openSUSE team is making Xfce a very attractive desktop environment for openSUSE 11.1. Also according to this link – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments#Outer_view_of_different_classes_of_desktop_environments , in the column ‘Size (base system, X installed)’ , Xfce requires only 15MB RAM. There are lot of pcs in the world, especially in developing countries of Asia and Africa which have 128 MB RAM and are running pirated versions of a very popular operating system. For those people it makes great economical value to choose free software like Linux which is available free of cost than running pirated versions of popular operating system. So I wish openSUSE team cuts down the memory requirements of the new ‘green n grey’ installer and offers a polished Xfce desktop environment, both of which can run smoothly on pcs having 128MB RAM.

    • Marco Antonio

      I agree with praveenkunjapur, not everyone has the possibility to have a PC with even more than 512 MB RAM, my computer for example has 512MB RAM, it is a Pentium III coppermine @ 800MHz, with ATI Radeon 7000VE 64MB frame buffer, and I have tried Mandriva Linux and PCLinuxOS 2007 and 2008 and I am pleased with the performance of the machine under those OS, I have tried SuSE with older versions and experimented a very long time consuming setup, and low performance after system is up and running. So I have to say I would like to try SuSE but I am afraid it could be a dissapointing experience and I would not want to loose the other linux installations I currently have. If someone knows about minimal and recommended hardware requirements for installation it would be very much appreciated. And of course could SuSE team add the possibility to have various methods of installing, for example, in older machines?

      Thanks and best regards,
      marco antonio

  37. Dan G.

    I have seen more than one request about the ability to upgrade from 10.3 to 11.0 but no answer. This is key for me to know: can I upgrade in place from openSUSE 10.3 to 11.0 (with a dualboot laptop also running XP) and expect it to work?

  38. Brian M

    I’ve got a problem getting my 2 desktop pc’s with dvd r/w drives to boot OS-11 Live 32 or similar. The drives eject the dvd within 15-20 seconds of placing it in the drive bay, it tries to spin up and then out it comes. My older Dell D600 laptop with a pentium 3 800 works fine, this sounds like a hardware issue does anyone have any ideas other than replacing my IDE dvd burners? I have a problem with most linux distributions, is there a work around for this issue?