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	<title>Comments on: Sneak Peeks at openSUSE 11.0: New Installer, with Stephan Kulow</title>
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		<title>By: Brian M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve got a problem getting my 2 desktop pc&#039;s with dvd r/w drives to boot OS-11 Live 32 or similar. The drives eject the dvd within 15-20 seconds of placing it in the drive bay, it tries to spin up and then out it comes. My older Dell D600 laptop with a pentium 3 800 works fine, this sounds like a hardware issue does anyone have any ideas other than replacing my IDE dvd burners? I have a problem with most linux distributions, is there a work around for this issue?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got a problem getting my 2 desktop pc&#8217;s with dvd r/w drives to boot OS-11 Live 32 or similar. The drives eject the dvd within 15-20 seconds of placing it in the drive bay, it tries to spin up and then out it comes. My older Dell D600 laptop with a pentium 3 800 works fine, this sounds like a hardware issue does anyone have any ideas other than replacing my IDE dvd burners? I have a problem with most linux distributions, is there a work around for this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have seen more than one request about the ability to upgrade from 10.3 to 11.0 but no answer. This is key for me to know: can I upgrade in place from openSUSE 10.3 to 11.0 (with a dualboot laptop also running XP) and expect it to work?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen more than one request about the ability to upgrade from 10.3 to 11.0 but no answer. This is key for me to know: can I upgrade in place from openSUSE 10.3 to 11.0 (with a dualboot laptop also running XP) and expect it to work?</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Antonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with praveenkunjapur, not everyone has the possibility to have a PC with even more than 512 MB RAM, my computer for example has 512MB RAM, it is a Pentium III coppermine @ 800MHz, with ATI Radeon 7000VE 64MB frame buffer, and I have tried Mandriva Linux and PCLinuxOS 2007 and 2008 and I am pleased with the performance of the machine under those OS, I have tried SuSE with older versions and experimented a very long time consuming setup, and low performance after system is up and running. So I have to say I would like to try SuSE but I am afraid it could be a dissapointing experience and I would not want to loose the other linux installations I currently have. If someone knows about minimal and recommended hardware requirements for installation it would be very much appreciated. And of course could SuSE team add the possibility to have various methods of installing, for example, in older machines?

Thanks and best regards,
marco antonio]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with praveenkunjapur, not everyone has the possibility to have a PC with even more than 512 MB RAM, my computer for example has 512MB RAM, it is a Pentium III coppermine @ 800MHz, with ATI Radeon 7000VE 64MB frame buffer, and I have tried Mandriva Linux and PCLinuxOS 2007 and 2008 and I am pleased with the performance of the machine under those OS, I have tried SuSE with older versions and experimented a very long time consuming setup, and low performance after system is up and running. So I have to say I would like to try SuSE but I am afraid it could be a dissapointing experience and I would not want to loose the other linux installations I currently have. If someone knows about minimal and recommended hardware requirements for installation it would be very much appreciated. And of course could SuSE team add the possibility to have various methods of installing, for example, in older machines?</p>
<p>Thanks and best regards,<br />
marco antonio</p>
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		<title>By: praveenkunjapur</title>
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		<dc:creator>praveenkunjapur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems the new &#039;green n grey&#039; installer introduced in openSUSE 11.0 does not work on pcs having 128MB RAM. If that is the case, I wish you cut down the amount of memory required by the new &#039;green n grey&#039; installer. According to this link - http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/06/10/xfce-project-status-report-062008/ , the Xfce openSUSE team is making Xfce a very attractive desktop environment for openSUSE 11.1. Also according to this link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments#Outer_view_of_different_classes_of_desktop_environments , in the column &#039;Size (base system, X installed)&#039; , Xfce requires only 15MB RAM. There are lot of pcs in the world, especially in developing countries of Asia and Africa which have 128 MB RAM and are running pirated versions of a very popular operating system. For those people it makes great economical value to choose free software like Linux which is available free of cost than running pirated versions of popular operating system. So I wish openSUSE team cuts down the memory requirements of the new &#039;green n grey&#039; installer and offers a polished Xfce desktop environment, both of which can run smoothly on pcs having 128MB RAM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the new &#8216;green n grey&#8217; installer introduced in openSUSE 11.0 does not work on pcs having 128MB RAM. If that is the case, I wish you cut down the amount of memory required by the new &#8216;green n grey&#8217; installer. According to this link &#8211; <a href="http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/06/10/xfce-project-status-report-062008/" rel="nofollow">http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/06/10/xfce-project-status-report-062008/</a> , the Xfce openSUSE team is making Xfce a very attractive desktop environment for openSUSE 11.1. Also according to this link &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments#Outer_view_of_different_classes_of_desktop_environments" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments#Outer_view_of_different_classes_of_desktop_environments</a> , in the column &#8216;Size (base system, X installed)&#8217; , Xfce requires only 15MB RAM. There are lot of pcs in the world, especially in developing countries of Asia and Africa which have 128 MB RAM and are running pirated versions of a very popular operating system. For those people it makes great economical value to choose free software like Linux which is available free of cost than running pirated versions of popular operating system. So I wish openSUSE team cuts down the memory requirements of the new &#8216;green n grey&#8217; installer and offers a polished Xfce desktop environment, both of which can run smoothly on pcs having 128MB RAM.</p>
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		<title>By: praveenkunjapur</title>
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		<dc:creator>praveenkunjapur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[During partitioning there should be a sub-heading that &quot;in openSUSE we need to create two mandatory filesystems - &#039;/&#039; and swap&quot; for installation and also add &quot;if you want you can add another partition called /home for user home directories.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During partitioning there should be a sub-heading that &#8220;in openSUSE we need to create two mandatory filesystems &#8211; &#8216;/&#8217; and swap&#8221; for installation and also add &#8220;if you want you can add another partition called /home for user home directories.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: praveenkunjapur</title>
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		<dc:creator>praveenkunjapur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What we want to improve and missed the time to really perfect is the partitioning. Windows users are usually fine with their operating system suggesting to erase every other system, but many Linux users prefer it differently. At the same time, partitioning is a very complex topic you can easily scare users with. So we’re still gathering input on what to do, so that users can easily understand what is going on and perhaps have easier control on what the installer does.

But with so many file systems and partition types available, it’s really hard to make it easy.&quot;

Here are some suggestions of mine -

1. During installation, in &quot;Suggested Partitioning&quot; pictured here - http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg ,  there are two options 1.Create Partition Setup and 2. Edit Partition Setup. It would be good idea to integrate both these options into one icon/option.

2. During installation, in &quot;Suggested Partitioning&quot; pictured here - http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg , when you click on the first option &quot;Create Partition Setup&quot;, there are again two options under &quot;Hard Disk&quot; - 1. IDE...  2. Custom Partition (for experts). Here also we can reduce the two options &quot;IDE&quot; and &quot;Custom Partition (for experts)&quot; to one icon/option so that it will be less intimidating to end-users/ new users and make partitioning very easy for all users.

3. When you click on &quot;Custom Partition (for experts)&quot;, you are taken to new screen where it shows the layout of the partitions. Below that screen there&#039;s an option &quot;Show Details.&quot; Although it shows us a lot of details, in the end who is interested in all those details. Windows XP installer doesn&#039;t have that stuff. Sure to access all those details, we need to &quot;tick&quot; on the box beside the &quot;Show details&quot; icon. But why have the option &quot;Show Details&quot; in first place?

4. In the same screen where &quot;Show Details&quot; icon is found, at the bottom of the screen there are options &quot;Create&quot;, &quot;Edit&quot;, &quot;Delete&quot;, &quot;Resize&quot;, &quot;LVM&quot;, &quot;RAID&quot;, &quot;Crypt file&quot;, &quot;NFS&quot;, &quot;Expert.&quot; When you click on the option &quot;Create&quot;, you get a dialog box titled &quot;Partiton Type&quot; with options 1. Primary Partition, 2. Extended Partition. 

When you click on the option &quot;Primary Partition&quot;, a new dialog box opens titled &quot;Create a Primary Partition on /dev/sda.&quot; In that there&#039;s a box called &quot;size.&quot; In that we need to specify &quot;start cylinder number&quot; and &quot;end cylinder number.&quot; Why not remove the thing called &quot;start/end cylinder numbers&quot; and instead have the option to enter the amount of space required for parition in Megabytes (MB) or Gigabyte (GB) like Windows XP and Debian Etch&#039;s new GUI installer allows? In that way it will be lot more easier to create partitions for those who come from Windows XP or for the matter of fact for those who use computers for the first time in their lives.

5. In the same screen where &quot;Show Details&quot; icon is found, at the bottom of the screen there are options &quot;Create&quot;, &quot;Edit&quot;, &quot;Delete&quot;, &quot;Resize&quot;, &quot;LVM&quot;, &quot;RAID&quot;, &quot;Crypt file&quot;, &quot;NFS&quot;, &quot;Expert.&quot; Just look at the top of the screen. It shows /dev/sda followed with the size of hard disk. When you create a partition, a partition gets created called &quot;sda1, sda2&quot; and so on. The problem here is the screen does not show us the remaining free space available in the hard disk after creating partitions. We have to calculate on our own to know how much space is still left. It would be great if the computer calculated and shows us how much space is still left after creating partitions (Windows XP installer and Debian Etch&#039;s new GUI installer show the remaining space available in a hard disk after a partition is created.).

6. openSUSE offers a lot of filesystems to choose from. Each filesystem serves a specific function. When choosing any filesytem, please provide the details as to what each filesystem is meant for in the help menu in the installer. The &quot;details&quot; or information which you provide in the help menu for choosing a specific filesystem will be very much appreciated by all users.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What we want to improve and missed the time to really perfect is the partitioning. Windows users are usually fine with their operating system suggesting to erase every other system, but many Linux users prefer it differently. At the same time, partitioning is a very complex topic you can easily scare users with. So we’re still gathering input on what to do, so that users can easily understand what is going on and perhaps have easier control on what the installer does.</p>
<p>But with so many file systems and partition types available, it’s really hard to make it easy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here are some suggestions of mine -</p>
<p>1. During installation, in &#8220;Suggested Partitioning&#8221; pictured here &#8211; <a href="http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg</a> ,  there are two options 1.Create Partition Setup and 2. Edit Partition Setup. It would be good idea to integrate both these options into one icon/option.</p>
<p>2. During installation, in &#8220;Suggested Partitioning&#8221; pictured here &#8211; <a href="http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/4/4f/OS11.0-inst-7.jpg</a> , when you click on the first option &#8220;Create Partition Setup&#8221;, there are again two options under &#8220;Hard Disk&#8221; &#8211; 1. IDE&#8230;  2. Custom Partition (for experts). Here also we can reduce the two options &#8220;IDE&#8221; and &#8220;Custom Partition (for experts)&#8221; to one icon/option so that it will be less intimidating to end-users/ new users and make partitioning very easy for all users.</p>
<p>3. When you click on &#8220;Custom Partition (for experts)&#8221;, you are taken to new screen where it shows the layout of the partitions. Below that screen there&#8217;s an option &#8220;Show Details.&#8221; Although it shows us a lot of details, in the end who is interested in all those details. Windows XP installer doesn&#8217;t have that stuff. Sure to access all those details, we need to &#8220;tick&#8221; on the box beside the &#8220;Show details&#8221; icon. But why have the option &#8220;Show Details&#8221; in first place?</p>
<p>4. In the same screen where &#8220;Show Details&#8221; icon is found, at the bottom of the screen there are options &#8220;Create&#8221;, &#8220;Edit&#8221;, &#8220;Delete&#8221;, &#8220;Resize&#8221;, &#8220;LVM&#8221;, &#8220;RAID&#8221;, &#8220;Crypt file&#8221;, &#8220;NFS&#8221;, &#8220;Expert.&#8221; When you click on the option &#8220;Create&#8221;, you get a dialog box titled &#8220;Partiton Type&#8221; with options 1. Primary Partition, 2. Extended Partition. </p>
<p>When you click on the option &#8220;Primary Partition&#8221;, a new dialog box opens titled &#8220;Create a Primary Partition on /dev/sda.&#8221; In that there&#8217;s a box called &#8220;size.&#8221; In that we need to specify &#8220;start cylinder number&#8221; and &#8220;end cylinder number.&#8221; Why not remove the thing called &#8220;start/end cylinder numbers&#8221; and instead have the option to enter the amount of space required for parition in Megabytes (MB) or Gigabyte (GB) like Windows XP and Debian Etch&#8217;s new GUI installer allows? In that way it will be lot more easier to create partitions for those who come from Windows XP or for the matter of fact for those who use computers for the first time in their lives.</p>
<p>5. In the same screen where &#8220;Show Details&#8221; icon is found, at the bottom of the screen there are options &#8220;Create&#8221;, &#8220;Edit&#8221;, &#8220;Delete&#8221;, &#8220;Resize&#8221;, &#8220;LVM&#8221;, &#8220;RAID&#8221;, &#8220;Crypt file&#8221;, &#8220;NFS&#8221;, &#8220;Expert.&#8221; Just look at the top of the screen. It shows /dev/sda followed with the size of hard disk. When you create a partition, a partition gets created called &#8220;sda1, sda2&#8243; and so on. The problem here is the screen does not show us the remaining free space available in the hard disk after creating partitions. We have to calculate on our own to know how much space is still left. It would be great if the computer calculated and shows us how much space is still left after creating partitions (Windows XP installer and Debian Etch&#8217;s new GUI installer show the remaining space available in a hard disk after a partition is created.).</p>
<p>6. openSUSE offers a lot of filesystems to choose from. Each filesystem serves a specific function. When choosing any filesytem, please provide the details as to what each filesystem is meant for in the help menu in the installer. The &#8220;details&#8221; or information which you provide in the help menu for choosing a specific filesystem will be very much appreciated by all users.</p>
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		<title>By: kwins</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice work Guys]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work Guys</p>
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		<title>By: isi</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/06/05/sneak-peeks-at-opensuse-110-new-installer-with-stephan-kulow/comment-page-1/#comment-4099</link>
		<dc:creator>isi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I accidently disabled the /dev/sr0 repository while updating. Because the description was openSuse 10.3 DVD. There
was no option to reenable the repo. only a reboot helps here.

thanx for the great openSUSE 11.0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accidently disabled the /dev/sr0 repository while updating. Because the description was openSuse 10.3 DVD. There<br />
was no option to reenable the repo. only a reboot helps here.</p>
<p>thanx for the great openSUSE 11.0</p>
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		<title>By: Olaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations, I&#039;m proud to use the best OS in the World.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations, I&#8217;m proud to use the best OS in the World.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Skujins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Skujins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very true... it would be nice to have some packages (maybe a nice ndiswrapper config?) for the key hardware. Also, I&#039;ve never had my SD slot working in SuSE whereas Ubuntu has had it natively for some time.

At any rate, SuSE has been my Linux of choice since v9, and I expect that to continue. Thanks SuSE crew.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true&#8230; it would be nice to have some packages (maybe a nice ndiswrapper config?) for the key hardware. Also, I&#8217;ve never had my SD slot working in SuSE whereas Ubuntu has had it natively for some time.</p>
<p>At any rate, SuSE has been my Linux of choice since v9, and I expect that to continue. Thanks SuSE crew.</p>
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