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	<title>Comments on: openSUSE 11.0 Survey</title>
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		<title>By: lyecdevf</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4765</link>
		<dc:creator>lyecdevf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has not really been long since I have upgraded from 10.3 to 11.0.  The upgrade by it self was simple.  I used the CD to update and I did not run into any particular problems.  

One of the first things that I have noticed after booting into 11.0 is that there is no floppy icon on the desktop like it used to be on 10.3.  Now I am not going to make a big deal out of that.  I do not use the floppy much any way.  Although I would say that the floppy icon never bothered me and it was kind of nice to have it up there.  For some reason I think that having three icons looks better than having just two.  So I was a bit surprised to see that there was not floppy icon there.  

Now I am a big torrent user.  I run this computer 24/7 much for the needs of file sharing. Suse is a stable platform to do that.  11.0 is not different.  It runs great and I am very satisfied with it so far.  Although I noticed that in 11.0 there is a new bitorrent application called monsone.  I have never heard of monsone even though I actually spent some time looking on the net for an alternative to the one that I use a lot, which is Ktorrent.  Now I have been using Ktorrent for a while now and it works great.  I have nothing to complain about it.  Except for one little tiny detail.  The version that came out with 10.3 had this little red and blue icon and I did not like it a lot.  There were two arrows joined together, where one was pointing upwards as to present uploading and the other one was pointing down as to present downloading.  Now there is just one arrow, which is light blue and is pointing down.  I like it some what better!  Although there is still room for improvement...*caugh*. The other thing that I would complain about Ktorrent and I know that this is an issue that suse users might not be interested in since it is not directly liked to Suse but the plugin that displays statistics about the network speeds seems not to be as good as the one from the previous version!

The last thing that I am going to address now is yast.  The previous package manager in 10.3 had a few bugs in it.  I am sure that others had problems with it.  So I am not going to discuss it right now but I am going to say that to me it look 100 times better than the one in 11.0.  The one in 11.0 works so much better but it does not sport a good look.  I first started using suse with 10.3 and yast was one of the things that won me over to suse.  It looked better than any package manager in any other distro that I have used before.  

All in all I think 11.0 is a good step in the right direction.  I am going to stick with suse at least in the near future.  I have no doubt in that.  It is a good distro and 11.0 makes me like it even more.  So keep up the good work guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has not really been long since I have upgraded from 10.3 to 11.0.  The upgrade by it self was simple.  I used the CD to update and I did not run into any particular problems.  </p>
<p>One of the first things that I have noticed after booting into 11.0 is that there is no floppy icon on the desktop like it used to be on 10.3.  Now I am not going to make a big deal out of that.  I do not use the floppy much any way.  Although I would say that the floppy icon never bothered me and it was kind of nice to have it up there.  For some reason I think that having three icons looks better than having just two.  So I was a bit surprised to see that there was not floppy icon there.  </p>
<p>Now I am a big torrent user.  I run this computer 24/7 much for the needs of file sharing. Suse is a stable platform to do that.  11.0 is not different.  It runs great and I am very satisfied with it so far.  Although I noticed that in 11.0 there is a new bitorrent application called monsone.  I have never heard of monsone even though I actually spent some time looking on the net for an alternative to the one that I use a lot, which is Ktorrent.  Now I have been using Ktorrent for a while now and it works great.  I have nothing to complain about it.  Except for one little tiny detail.  The version that came out with 10.3 had this little red and blue icon and I did not like it a lot.  There were two arrows joined together, where one was pointing upwards as to present uploading and the other one was pointing down as to present downloading.  Now there is just one arrow, which is light blue and is pointing down.  I like it some what better!  Although there is still room for improvement&#8230;*caugh*. The other thing that I would complain about Ktorrent and I know that this is an issue that suse users might not be interested in since it is not directly liked to Suse but the plugin that displays statistics about the network speeds seems not to be as good as the one from the previous version!</p>
<p>The last thing that I am going to address now is yast.  The previous package manager in 10.3 had a few bugs in it.  I am sure that others had problems with it.  So I am not going to discuss it right now but I am going to say that to me it look 100 times better than the one in 11.0.  The one in 11.0 works so much better but it does not sport a good look.  I first started using suse with 10.3 and yast was one of the things that won me over to suse.  It looked better than any package manager in any other distro that I have used before.  </p>
<p>All in all I think 11.0 is a good step in the right direction.  I am going to stick with suse at least in the near future.  I have no doubt in that.  It is a good distro and 11.0 makes me like it even more.  So keep up the good work guys!</p>
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		<title>By: wolf</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4545</link>
		<dc:creator>wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suse 11.0 is really a good system.
I have been using fedora, but now I find suse is a better choice. It is much more stable.
One thing, I can&#039;t change the brightness of my OSD (Toshiba Satellite Pro), can it be improved in next release?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suse 11.0 is really a good system.<br />
I have been using fedora, but now I find suse is a better choice. It is much more stable.<br />
One thing, I can&#8217;t change the brightness of my OSD (Toshiba Satellite Pro), can it be improved in next release?</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Szabo</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4435</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent Szabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my SuSe 10.0 I ran into a Firefox 2.0.0.10 compatibility problem with my AT&amp;T webmail, so I decided to install SuSe 11.0. At first I ordered the boxed set, and then discovered that it only included a DVD medium and no CD&#039;s. As I don&#039;t have DVD on my Desktop I called and canceled the boxed set. Then began searching around and discovered the ability to download the SuSe 11.0 CD with KDE4 on it. So I decided to give it a try. Downloaded it on my SuSe 10.0 with BitTorrent, and wrote out the ISO CD with K3B. Then installed into a 10 GB partition. All went fine, the installation was the easiest I have ever done. I then used YAST2 to download packages that I often use. The Firefox 3.0b.2 that comes with it is fine with my AT&amp;T e-mail. The only thing I am trying to figure out is how to mont my SuSe 10.0 to 11.0 so I can copy out  my old /home data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my SuSe 10.0 I ran into a Firefox 2.0.0.10 compatibility problem with my AT&amp;T webmail, so I decided to install SuSe 11.0. At first I ordered the boxed set, and then discovered that it only included a DVD medium and no CD&#8217;s. As I don&#8217;t have DVD on my Desktop I called and canceled the boxed set. Then began searching around and discovered the ability to download the SuSe 11.0 CD with KDE4 on it. So I decided to give it a try. Downloaded it on my SuSe 10.0 with BitTorrent, and wrote out the ISO CD with K3B. Then installed into a 10 GB partition. All went fine, the installation was the easiest I have ever done. I then used YAST2 to download packages that I often use. The Firefox 3.0b.2 that comes with it is fine with my AT&amp;T e-mail. The only thing I am trying to figure out is how to mont my SuSe 10.0 to 11.0 so I can copy out  my old /home data.</p>
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		<title>By: tvice</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4403</link>
		<dc:creator>tvice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been an Ubuntu user for over two years but occasionally installing Linux over the last 12.  I installed SUSE 11 64 bit without any difficulty but had problems with printing set up and had to use the CUPS localhost web page to setup a network printer.  Still I do not see a job option tab in any printing window either in the control panel or Yast printing applet.  The job option tab would allow you to change page orientation among other things.
Skype did not work (not Novell&#039;s fault) but after poking around the forum I was able to find a solution as I did with Flashplayer both of which work fine now although SKYPE alerts don&#039;t work.  I believe JAVA based apps still have problems printing (blame SUN).
32 bit anything is a declining technology just as 16 bit passed so will 32 bit stuff. I do believe my 64 bit hyperthreaded P4 running 64 bit Linux is now faster than my 32 bit dual core machines. All in all a pretty good distro.  The only Virtualbox install that worked was through add/remove programs and is the Open Source version so no usb support.  I downloaded two others for 64 bit with USB but they did not install properly so guess I will wait on that one.   Nividia drivers loaded with a one click install which was quite impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been an Ubuntu user for over two years but occasionally installing Linux over the last 12.  I installed SUSE 11 64 bit without any difficulty but had problems with printing set up and had to use the CUPS localhost web page to setup a network printer.  Still I do not see a job option tab in any printing window either in the control panel or Yast printing applet.  The job option tab would allow you to change page orientation among other things.<br />
Skype did not work (not Novell&#8217;s fault) but after poking around the forum I was able to find a solution as I did with Flashplayer both of which work fine now although SKYPE alerts don&#8217;t work.  I believe JAVA based apps still have problems printing (blame SUN).<br />
32 bit anything is a declining technology just as 16 bit passed so will 32 bit stuff. I do believe my 64 bit hyperthreaded P4 running 64 bit Linux is now faster than my 32 bit dual core machines. All in all a pretty good distro.  The only Virtualbox install that worked was through add/remove programs and is the Open Source version so no usb support.  I downloaded two others for 64 bit with USB but they did not install properly so guess I will wait on that one.   Nividia drivers loaded with a one click install which was quite impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard M.</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4381</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried out 11.0 and still have it as one of my my bootable OSes in GRUB.  My main OS is still 10.3.  Why?  I can&#039;t get the recommended MADWIFI drivers applied to the base 11.0x system.  The packages seem to be incompatible with the OS.  Also, the installer didn&#039;t handle the two prior bootable OSes elegantly (WinXP &amp; OpenSuse 10.3).  It made my 10.3 unbootable, so I had to go back and correct that.  

The survey should ask a few more detailed questions and include comment areas, so that these experiences can be captured in the survey.

Other than that, I&#039;m impressed by the installer, the over speed, and the professional look of 11.0.  I&#039;m hopeful that 11.1 will solve my problems so that I can move on to the next version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried out 11.0 and still have it as one of my my bootable OSes in GRUB.  My main OS is still 10.3.  Why?  I can&#8217;t get the recommended MADWIFI drivers applied to the base 11.0x system.  The packages seem to be incompatible with the OS.  Also, the installer didn&#8217;t handle the two prior bootable OSes elegantly (WinXP &amp; OpenSuse 10.3).  It made my 10.3 unbootable, so I had to go back and correct that.  </p>
<p>The survey should ask a few more detailed questions and include comment areas, so that these experiences can be captured in the survey.</p>
<p>Other than that, I&#8217;m impressed by the installer, the over speed, and the professional look of 11.0.  I&#8217;m hopeful that 11.1 will solve my problems so that I can move on to the next version.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon R.</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4334</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KDE4 isn&#039;t really ready for prime time, yet (it crashed a lot on me), but that&#039;s OK - KDE3 is there too. 

However, it is very apparent from all the bugs for it that the switch to the iwl driver for the intel wireless chips (3945 in particular) was premature.  Simply way to many problems for it to be the &quot;default&quot; driver.  SuSE even went so far as to remove the older ipw from the distro entirely, which I think is father foolish. Just because something is &quot;unsupported&quot; doesn&#039;t mean your users don&#039;t want access to it.

The continued lack of smbmount (started in 10.3) is still a sticking point with me.  I have to connect to a Netapp Filer and EMC NAS at work, and they have buggy software whose fixes have not yet been properly distributed. The CIFS drivers in openSUSE fail and report a LOT of bad data in the connections.  The smbfs drivers don&#039;t.  Thus, once again, I am forced to &quot;roll my own&quot; because the smbfs drivers are not supported. I say, &quot;Who cares?!?!?!&quot; This is an open distro.  If I wanted support, I would buy the Novell Desktop. So why the big problem with making older stuff available - maybe even in a &quot;Retro&quot; repository?

On a related note - a lot of my negative experiences have come from the fact that I upgraded, rather than installed fresh.  The fillup templates really do need to be applied, even during upgrades, as leaving all the old configs in place has caused so many problems, especially with the switch to iwl drivers.  Doing so forces a &#039;reset&#039; to default configs.  Once I deleted my old network ./config and ./dhcp config files and replaced them with copies from the fillup template, things got a lot better.  No clue why, as I didn&#039;t have anything esoteric in there.

Given that laptops are expected to (or already have) outsold desktops (at least in the US), we really need to be more careful about things like wireless, upgrades, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KDE4 isn&#8217;t really ready for prime time, yet (it crashed a lot on me), but that&#8217;s OK &#8211; KDE3 is there too. </p>
<p>However, it is very apparent from all the bugs for it that the switch to the iwl driver for the intel wireless chips (3945 in particular) was premature.  Simply way to many problems for it to be the &#8220;default&#8221; driver.  SuSE even went so far as to remove the older ipw from the distro entirely, which I think is father foolish. Just because something is &#8220;unsupported&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean your users don&#8217;t want access to it.</p>
<p>The continued lack of smbmount (started in 10.3) is still a sticking point with me.  I have to connect to a Netapp Filer and EMC NAS at work, and they have buggy software whose fixes have not yet been properly distributed. The CIFS drivers in openSUSE fail and report a LOT of bad data in the connections.  The smbfs drivers don&#8217;t.  Thus, once again, I am forced to &#8220;roll my own&#8221; because the smbfs drivers are not supported. I say, &#8220;Who cares?!?!?!&#8221; This is an open distro.  If I wanted support, I would buy the Novell Desktop. So why the big problem with making older stuff available &#8211; maybe even in a &#8220;Retro&#8221; repository?</p>
<p>On a related note &#8211; a lot of my negative experiences have come from the fact that I upgraded, rather than installed fresh.  The fillup templates really do need to be applied, even during upgrades, as leaving all the old configs in place has caused so many problems, especially with the switch to iwl drivers.  Doing so forces a &#8216;reset&#8217; to default configs.  Once I deleted my old network ./config and ./dhcp config files and replaced them with copies from the fillup template, things got a lot better.  No clue why, as I didn&#8217;t have anything esoteric in there.</p>
<p>Given that laptops are expected to (or already have) outsold desktops (at least in the US), we really need to be more careful about things like wireless, upgrades, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Richey</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4332</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Richey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Suse installation is the best I have seen in Linux. It does gets a little fuzzy around partitioning. I would like to see the options to include proprietary video drivers, the usual restricted codecs, and flashplayer at installation rather than having to search for them after installation. It seems each Linux distro gives them slightly different names so even searching for them takes time.

Because I use multiple hard drives I would like to see the name of the OS on each drive (if detected) along with each drive number.

I would also like to see the OS name and version number on the login screen..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Suse installation is the best I have seen in Linux. It does gets a little fuzzy around partitioning. I would like to see the options to include proprietary video drivers, the usual restricted codecs, and flashplayer at installation rather than having to search for them after installation. It seems each Linux distro gives them slightly different names so even searching for them takes time.</p>
<p>Because I use multiple hard drives I would like to see the name of the OS on each drive (if detected) along with each drive number.</p>
<p>I would also like to see the OS name and version number on the login screen..</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4325</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMD Athlon and x86-64 OpenSuse 11.

Have had 0 problems logging into gmail, jib jab (once). But then again, I&#039;m mostly a web surfer. Did you try Firefox 3.0.1 because that&#039;s the browser I&#039;m using. Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMD Athlon and x86-64 OpenSuse 11.</p>
<p>Have had 0 problems logging into gmail, jib jab (once). But then again, I&#8217;m mostly a web surfer. Did you try Firefox 3.0.1 because that&#8217;s the browser I&#8217;m using. Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4324</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, on the survey I accidentally said that I use Windows more than openSUSE. The only reason I use Windows is because of a deal I received through a University for Office 2007. I do all my web surfing on openSUSE because I like the compiz zoom feature. And virtual machines respond much better on Linux than Windows. The few one to two page documents that I&#039;ve typed using OpenOffice were perfect, but I haven&#039;t put OpenOffice through any real tests. Many of the additional features in Office 2007 really aren&#039;t anything special because most of my documents are entirely in text; although, the graphics are fun to play with. Assuming everything works well enough in OpenOffice, if a virus attacked all Windows machines and killed them all off and Microso... mysteriously fell of the face of the Earth, it wouldn&#039;t bother me at this point to completely switch over to openSUSE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, on the survey I accidentally said that I use Windows more than openSUSE. The only reason I use Windows is because of a deal I received through a University for Office 2007. I do all my web surfing on openSUSE because I like the compiz zoom feature. And virtual machines respond much better on Linux than Windows. The few one to two page documents that I&#8217;ve typed using OpenOffice were perfect, but I haven&#8217;t put OpenOffice through any real tests. Many of the additional features in Office 2007 really aren&#8217;t anything special because most of my documents are entirely in text; although, the graphics are fun to play with. Assuming everything works well enough in OpenOffice, if a virus attacked all Windows machines and killed them all off and Microso&#8230; mysteriously fell of the face of the Earth, it wouldn&#8217;t bother me at this point to completely switch over to openSUSE.</p>
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		<title>By: susegebr</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/07/18/opensuse-110-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-4318</link>
		<dc:creator>susegebr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Installed kernel 2.6.26-20-default from //ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/x86_64/

For a atheros wireless card  the ath5k  now works very well so you dont need de madwifi

There are no gspcav1-20071224  rpm  so i compiles them and installed them the webcam works fine

I have  acpi_os_name=Linux  and acpi_serialize on the command line when the computer boot.

and now all works well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Installed kernel 2.6.26-20-default from //ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/Kernel:/HEAD/openSUSE_Factory/x86_64/</p>
<p>For a atheros wireless card  the ath5k  now works very well so you dont need de madwifi</p>
<p>There are no gspcav1-20071224  rpm  so i compiles them and installed them the webcam works fine</p>
<p>I have  acpi_os_name=Linux  and acpi_serialize on the command line when the computer boot.</p>
<p>and now all works well</p>
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