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openSUSE 11.0 Survey Results

September 11th, 2008 by

The openSUSE survey results are out now. The survey we made in July/August time frame attracted over 12,000 participants. Here is a short summary on changes compared to the last one we did approximately 1 1/2 year ago with the openSUSE 10.2 release. The summary is in the same order as the questions are.

  • meanwhile over 90% of our users have broadband access and 3/4 of them have a flat rate. Percentage of people having slow or no internet connection is below 5%. Anyway we should find a way getting our distro physically to emerging countries as we fear they didn’t even take part at the survey due to internet issues :-(
  • usage of an OS called Windows dropped from 31% to 21% which either tells us people do the full step to Linux or we may lose newbies?
  • Vista is not there yet, XP usage is approx. 3 times larger then Vista usage
  • KDE4 is already adopted by kind of 40% out of all KDE users, this is quite impressive to us as we’re mainly talking about KDE 4.0 which isn’t that mature as KDE 4.1 is today (yes, we know KDE 4.1 still needs some work to be perfect ;-))
  • involvement in openSUSE has risen strongly, from 15% to 25% and that’s all over the place – be it openSUSE Build Service, bug reporting, openSUSE Forums or others.
  • We’ve seen happily that the main reasons for not being involved in the openSUSE project was no time or familiy. But some people mentioned they don’t know how or it’s not clear where to start. We definitely need to address the latter one.
  • openSUSE and the first experience with Linux is down from 11% to 6%, that either tells us users from other Linux distros are joining or we’re losing people new to Linux
  • rating for “Ease of installation” climbed up strongly, obviously the streamlined installation workflow was the right thing to do.
  • On the question what should be changed for future versions the wish for more software packages declined. So it looks like the openSUSE Build Service and the 1-click installation helps many users to get additional software from.
  • The things above are for us the most eye catching results. In general the results are pretty similar to the last survey. For comparison you find the old survey on the UX page. As you see those results – at least some times – open room for interpretation in one or the other direction. For feedback please use the opensuse-project mailing list.

    We want to thank all people participated at the survey and some of them will receive soon an openSUSE t-shirt or cap.

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    44 Responses to “openSUSE 11.0 Survey Results”

    1. - usage of an OS called Windows dropped from 31% to 21% which either tells us people do the full step to Linux or we may lose newbies?

      – openSUSE and the first experience with Linux is down from 11% to 6%, that either tells us users from other Linux distros are joining or we’re losing people new to Linux

      Well, IMHO, you’re really loosing newbies!!! Linux have never been so popular, but opensuse is getting less newbies ( however i do believe that experienced users are joining OpenSuse) – so this means only one thing to me: You should get a little more attention to the newbies area… And for a start they’re able to easy install software but they don’t have any easy way to remove it! Software is all!!! Kids and young people are always installing and removing software… humankind are curios by nature… and they’re always trying to find the right software that does the things they want…

      however the way yast is presented to them (when they try to remove software) well… it’s not a pretty one: That’s why I keep telling over and over to find a way to having a “1-click UNINSTALL” in order to revert the 1-click installed software (and showing only one entry per application and not 3 like, for example, in Gimp)!!! This would, for a start help newbies to feel more comfortable whit OpenSuse. (I know… sometimes i am bit boring (for those who know me already)… always talking about the same thing… But i honestly don’t want to do no harm to OpenSuse… only improving it!!! and to me this is the first step!!!)

      Best wishes

      • Benjamin Weber

        You keep posting the uninstall suggestion in various places. Please file an enhancement request in bugzilla, then you can track any development, and don’t have to keep asking about it.

      • tworush

        1-click UNINSTALL I love the idea only makes sense to attract a lot more (Windows and Macs) users

      • R. J.

        I personally find using the software manager to uninstall programs rather easy. Removing dependices isn’t a newbie thing. Most windows users will isntall a program, remove it, and not care if it leaves anything else on their computer, and don’t even do maintenance on their computers. It is technically advanced people not the vast majority of home users that do that

        I think if my mother who is in her 60′s can come from windows and start using openSUSE and understand how to install and remove programs then it is simple enough already. lol

        New users, at least when I made the change from Windows to Linux and was looking around website, I was looking for all I could about different distros. And one thing that was important to me was screenshots, I wanted to see what it looked like, but could find nothing on opensuse.org, to be honest, the whole website is not orientated for newbies, it is hard to find anything and has nothing detailing what Gnome and KDE is with screenshots. Take a look at ubuntu’s website, it is user friendly, newbie friendly, that is why so many people go their first. I would never of gone to OpenSUSE if it wasn’t for all the talk in warez forums that it was the distro to use. Thankfully there is conversation going on making the website more user friendly, but that should be the number one priority right now, because it is just so linux geek orientated, not orientated towards the newbie coming from windows who just does not understand linux and is trying to research and understand it.

        Will we ever see the single configurable cd’s come back? There is so much on live cd’s that just leave people having to sit and remove it because they don’t want what is installed.

        • Grósz Dániel

          “has nothing detailing what Gnome and KDE is with screenshots”

          The two desktop environments are much more different than the UI of two distributions with the same DE. So the important decision (which can be made, even if not wise, by looking at screenshots) is between KDE and GNOME (for a newbie who will likely use one of them). So it does not make much sense to put up screenshots of the distro without saying if it is KDE or GNOME.

          • R. J.

            yes there needs to be a kde and gnome section, people like to look and see what their computer will look like and the different packages before switching from windows. Both ubuntu and apple do a good job of showing this through screenshots. like i said take a look at ubuntu’s website and see how they have it done.

          • Columbia1883

            I think ‘preview’ sections would be cool but as someone who is running the LiveCD right now and will be installing openSUSE shortly as a dual-boot with Windows XP, I just went around to all the different distro sites reading and learning. Then I looked up each distro on YouTube and made my decision on which one to install based on that preliminary research. I definitely did notice the difference between the layout and presentation of openSUSE’s site vs. Ubuntu et al. but I didn’t let that stop me from researching all the various options.

    2. Kalle

      In general I love OpenSuse (using SuSE since 7.1 times). BuildService is great!!
      1-Click Install rocks!!

      I can agree, that something like an Install-History and an easy way to uninstall like mentioned above could make life more easy.
      Especially if YAST could suggest to remove the dependencies which were installed for the software that should be removed.

      Keep on, you’re doing a great Job !!

    3. enexy

      Guys, you’re doing great job! Thanks for all who are involved in a project!

    4. Grósz dániel

      “Percentage of people having slow or no internet connection is below 5%.”

      Among those who could find and fill out the surway. People with no internet connection are probably much less likely to fill it out.

    5. superppl

      Maybe the newbies are growing up?

    6. Steev

      If you are not sure what the results of a particular question mean, you need to 1) rephrase the question, or 2) ask more and more specific questions to better define the information you are seeking.

    7. Dux

      Hello team, thank you for the polls, their work and improved Suse concern.

      I think they can be more useful and interesting information about the language as many of us do not possess a good standard of English, perhaps doing the survey in other languages like Spanish, French, German, those languages as possible and comfortable work .

      I am involved in Suse Forum (www.forosuse.org) Community Suse in Spanish and many are difficult to work with Suse and / or use a language. I think the language is one of the biggest impediments in the progress and collaborate with you.

      In a bit we will improve and leaving behind the language problem, there is much to be done and much room for improvement but we have also progressed and we have done a good job. You made possible many things beautiful and good. We want our chameleon, your pet ^ ^

      I help with the translator, forgive the mistakes.

      Greetings and good luck.

      Dux.

    8. Carlos A.

      Greetings,
      the survey numbers are quiet interesting but would like to read more interpretations for the data gathered. Has that been done already? Can you share the link please.
      Thanks, ;)

    9. R. J.

      Sorry, one other thought. I’ve had people come to Linux and leave simply because the e-mail clients mainly on KDE do not offer them what they like to use. Many windows users love to be able to do fancy emails, include photos in it, video’s etc. Perhaps Novell or OpenSUSE can work on a KDE email client that goes in the same direction as Apple Mail or Windows Live Mail.

    10. Xil

      a one click un-install would work or simply a sort of log system which shows you a lot clearer then the current Yast logs what you did, I find it everything but easy to find out what the last install run actually installed (besides by writting it down)

    11. Chris

      Here is your install history: “rpm -qa –last”.

      The tools are there. Learn to use them instead of expecting a GUI for everything. It makes you faster & more independent ;)

      • Chris

        That was meant in reply to Kalle (#2). Somehow the reply funktion got borked.

      • Jim Chew

        Firstly, asking newbies to use the command line is utterly ludicrous.

        Modern computer users DO expect a GUI for everything and it’s time we faced that and moved forward into the 1990s. Obsure TLAs are a very poor way of attracting users. You might be faster once you know the acronyms but until you do, an intuitive, sensible GUI will make you far faster & independent.

        Secondly, the software installation and particularly uninstallation are incredibly obtuse and awkward. Frankly, radical reform is needed.

        • R> J>

          what is so awkward about putting a tick in a box in package manger to install and x to delete

          i came from windows to OpenSuse and i really think some of you are trying to over complicate something that is already very basic

          Chris that kind of thinking is why linux is still not popular. windows users want and expect GUI’s and comments llike that keep people away from linux. In your world people should learn to use linux with codes, in the real world people who look at switching to linux want a computer that works and that they can understand without any hassle of learning and typing codes

          • well not complicating…

            I deal with newbies daily and believe me that for someone that comes from windows, where you just need to press 1 button to (start) uninstall software X suddenly see that in Linux he as to select 3 packages to remove the same software is a bit confusing…

            and don’t came to say that your grand’ma knows how to do it because it makes me feel you’re saying that the people how i deal with are stupid… and their not!

            and you can take a look into other distro’s… they’ve done the same for ages… if i didn’t understand anything about OS i would be switching to… so let’s all get into the XXI century, shall we?! Not only experts want to use Suse – please remember that!!!

      • Xil

        thank Chris, I did not know about that option. yes you are right that from the commandline you can do a lot more and faster, however after years of not using it its not that you suddenly think: “hmmm I want to see what was installed, so lets do a rpm –help and see what I can do” :)

      • Steev

        Chris said -
        “The tools are there. Learn to use them instead of expecting a GUI for everything.”

        I said -
        Easier said than done, oh Wise One.
        The “tools” are where?

        Tell we, who are trying to learn the “tools”, where there is a single location where ALL the “tools” are listed and explains what they do, and the syntax for each command.
        There is none.
        Or rather, there are 5000 locations where, in each one, some of the “tools” are presented.
        But nowhere is all the “tools” presented in a concise useful manner.

        I have two 1200+ page books on linux, and there are still simple questions that they do not answer.
        Finding the answer to rather basic questions sometimes takes hours.
        Until Linux and its fifteen billion distributions is documented so someone can locate the basic “tools” and learn to use them, it will remain a techno-toy.

    12. Eric

      meanwhile over 90% of our users have broadband access and 3/4 of them have a flat rate.

      Percentage of people having slow or no internet connection is below 5%.

      usage of an OS called Windows dropped from 31% to 21% which either tells us people do the full step to Linux or we may lose newbies?

      Vista is not there yet, XP usage is approx. 3 times larger then Vista usage

      KDE4 is already adopted by kind of 40% out of all KDE users, this is quite impressive to us as we’re mainly talking about KDE 4.0 which isn’t that mature as KDE 4.1 is today (yes, we know KDE 4.1 still needs some work to be perfect ;-))

      involvement in openSUSE has risen strongly, from 15% to 25% and that’s all over the place – be it openSUSE Build Service, bug reporting, openSUSE Forums or others.
      We’ve seen happily that the main reasons for not being involved in the openSUSE project was no time or familiy. But some people mentioned they don’t know how or it’s not clear where to start. We definitely need to address the latter one.

      openSUSE and the first experience with Linux is down from 11% to 6%, that either tells us users from other Linux distros are joining or we’re losing people new to Linux

      rating for “Ease of installation” climbed up strongly, obviously the streamlined installation workflow was the right thing to do.

      On the question what should be changed for future versions the wish for more software packages declined. So it looks like the openSUSE Build Service and the 1-click installation helps many users to get additional software from.

      The things above are for us the most eye catching results. In general the results are pretty similar to the last survey. For comparison you find the old survey on the UX page. As you see those results – at least some times – open room for interpretation in one or the other direction. For feedback please use the opensuse-project mailing list.

      • Eric

        (something happend on my post above,,,so I had to reply here)

        I have dual booted into many different distros over the years and openSUSE is my favorite and I always fall back on it for my distro of choice. Kubuntu is successful because it “just works” but is not as extravagant as SUSE is to me.

        “usage of an OS called Windows dropped from 31% to 21% which either tells us people do the full step to Linux or we may lose newbies?”

        If you have to call someone a “newbie” when they go to SUSE you are way behind in your development of attracting new users of the OS. As soon as you no longer need the command line visible in your product, that will be the day it has caught up to modern computing.

        “Vista is not there yet, XP usage is approx. 3 times larger then Vista usage”

        How many times larger is SUSE 10 over SUSE 11? There’s a billion old computers running XP which is over 5 years old. You needed to know that?

        “KDE4 is already adopted by kind of 40% out of all KDE users, this is quite impressive to us as we’re mainly talking about KDE 4.0 which isn’t that mature as KDE 4.1 is today (yes, we know KDE 4.1 still needs some work to be perfect ;-))”

        Of course, my experience with Linux is it is a perpetual update and never matures, then it is dropped for the newer “better” version. Are you still developing to make SUSE 9 100% and the version to have?

        “involvement in openSUSE has risen strongly, from 15% to 25% and that’s all over the place – be it openSUSE Build Service, bug reporting, openSUSE Forums or others.
        We’ve seen happily that the main reasons for not being involved in the openSUSE project was no time or familiy. But some people mentioned they don’t know how or it’s not clear where to start. We definitely need to address the latter one.”

        Try incorporating it better into the OS itself. Let the computer do the work.

        “openSUSE and the first experience with Linux is down from 11% to 6%, that either tells us users from other Linux distros are joining or we’re losing people new to Linux”

        Better marketing and it just works is the thing to get that up. Here’s a novel idea….send out a bunch of light weight distro versions on CD’s to the media tech world so they can see it..use it.. and know about it without seeking it out. They are not going to seek out openSUSE.

        “rating for “Ease of installation” climbed up strongly, obviously the streamlined installation workflow was the right thing to do.”

        Of course…that is everything…ever hear of the phrase “first impression”?

        “On the question what should be changed for future versions the wish for more software packages declined. So it looks like the openSUSE Build Service and the 1-click installation helps many users to get additional software from.”

        That is because “eye candy” is the thing to have now. People want nice things to look at while they work or play on their computers. The 1-click thing is a real step foward. My first use with it worked “almost”. It was a theme by skull for KDE4 and it did its thing installing after the UAC pop up. Then I went to the themes window where it should be and it wasn’t there to apply. Maybe I need to open up a terminal or something huh!

        Eric

    13. Eric

      I have dual booted into many different distros over the years and openSUSE is my favorite and I always fall back on it for my distro of choice. Kubuntu is successful because it “just works” but is not as extravagant as SUSE is to me.

      “usage of an OS called Windows dropped from 31% to 21% which either tells us people do the full step to Linux or we may lose newbies?”

      If you have to call someone a “newbie” when they go to SUSE you are way behind in your development of attracting new users of the OS. As soon as you no longer need the command line visible in your product, that will be the day it has caught up to modern computing.

      “Vista is not there yet, XP usage is approx. 3 times larger then Vista usage”

      How many times larger is SUSE 10 over SUSE 11? There’s a billion old computers running XP which is over 5 years old. You needed to know that?

      “KDE4 is already adopted by kind of 40% out of all KDE users, this is quite impressive to us as we’re mainly talking about KDE 4.0 which isn’t that mature as KDE 4.1 is today (yes, we know KDE 4.1 still needs some work to be perfect ;-))”

      Of course, my experience with Linux is it is a perpetual update and never matures, then it is dropped for the newer “better” version. Are you still developing to make SUSE 9 100% and the version to have?

      “involvement in openSUSE has risen strongly, from 15% to 25% and that’s all over the place – be it openSUSE Build Service, bug reporting, openSUSE Forums or others.
      We’ve seen happily that the main reasons for not being involved in the openSUSE project was no time or familiy. But some people mentioned they don’t know how or it’s not clear where to start. We definitely need to address the latter one.”

      Try incorporating it better into the OS itself. Let the computer do the work.

      “openSUSE and the first experience with Linux is down from 11% to 6%, that either tells us users from other Linux distros are joining or we’re losing people new to Linux”

      Better marketing and it just works is the thing to get that up. Here’s a novel idea….send out a bunch of light weight distro versions on CD’s to the media tech world so they can see it..use it.. and know about it without seeking it out. They are not going to seek out openSUSE.

      “rating for “Ease of installation” climbed up strongly, obviously the streamlined installation workflow was the right thing to do.”

      Of course…that is everything…ever hear of the phrase “first impression”?

      “On the question what should be changed for future versions the wish for more software packages declined. So it looks like the openSUSE Build Service and the 1-click installation helps many users to get additional software from.”

      That is because “eye candy” is the thing to have now. People want nice things to look at while they work or play on their computers. The 1-click thing is a real step foward. My first use with it worked “almost”. It was a theme by skull for KDE4 and it did its thing installing after the UAC pop up. Then I went to the themes window where it should be and it wasn’t there to apply. Maybe I need to open up a terminal or something huh!

      Eric

    14. Isis

      ” And for a start they’re able to easy install software but they don’t have any easy way to remove it! ”

      Is YaST complicated? The only boring thing that maybe only people who know that happens and how to “fix” it are the tons of libraries that are not removed sometimes when you uninstall some software.
      Guess this could be solved by just tuning YaST.

      “humankind are curios by nature…”

      So, there shouldn’t be any reason not to find out how one can uninstall software and find alternatives already present in the OS.

      “That’s why I keep telling over and over to find a way to having a “1-click UNINSTALL” in order to revert the 1-click installed software (and showing only one entry per application and not 3 like, for example, in Gimp)!!!”

      Then we get a Windows’ Control Panel “Install/Remove Software”-alike. Which doesn’t do much in some cases,as I must clean the damn registry (thank god for the registry cleaners) and get rid of the folders that are “randomly” created in my system.
      If that thing is supposed to do this,better the developers make it optional and put a screen like “How do you want to manage your software? 1- YaST Only 2- YaST and 1-click uninstall” during installation (If they can do it for ifup and NetworkManager,why not?),because I’m pretty confortable with zypper and YaST.I already was after 2 weeks on suse 9.3 2 years ago.

      ” This would, for a start help newbies to feel more comfortable whit OpenSuse.”

      Mate,you don’t know half of the people who come from wormholes and appear in my MSN contact list…
      One of them couldn’t use YaST saying it was too hard,when the only thing a user is supposed to do is read what is displayed on screen and use the brain to infer what “Manage software” should do.
      This guy started with suse 9.0 last year, changed to Ubuntu (which I consider a piece of sh*t to newbies and I got reasons to think this way) and later to Slackware,because he thought the lack of splash screen was a bug.
      We don’t know if he’s a troll,’cause he kept babbling about command line and couldn’t register repositories by editing /etc/sources.list.
      Note:the guy who installed suse for him unplugged the network cable while installing.

      “Better marketing and it just works is the thing to get that up. Here’s a novel idea….send out a bunch of light weight distro versions on CD’s to the media tech world so they can see it..use it.. and know about it without seeking it out. They are not going to seek out openSUSE.”

      Guess what makes Ubuntu known is indeed the ShipIt thing.Specially if users on 3rd-world country don’t have broadband to download a DVD.
      I really want to see some notebooks here in Brazil with pre-installed suse and not some hard-to-find-users distro,which hapens quite often specially when selling OLPCs (government deal I guess) or when you buy a cheap desktop in stores.

      • “Is YaST complicated?”

        For some YES! (not everyone born whit a computer in his hands and another on their head, you know…)

        ““humankind are curios by nature…”

        So, there shouldn’t be any reason not to find out how one can uninstall software and find alternatives already present in the OS.”

        I actually meant they are curious about simple software’s like video players, software to convert files, and s-m-a-l-l things like that… and not searching for more advanced OS management tecnics… Are you thinking about put a bunch of kids that don’t even know what a library is, managing their software in Yast??? you should try that, specially where i am!!!

        “Then we get a Windows’ Control Panel “Install/Remove Software”-alike. Which doesn’t do much in some cases,as I must clean the damn registry (thank god for the registry cleaners) and get rid of the folders that are “randomly” created in my system.”

        Why not do even better??? for example, as far as i know, Linspire’s/Xandro’s CNR does not work that bad!!!

        “Mate,you don’t know half of the people who come from wormholes and appear in my MSN contact list…”

        Then if you got this too, you should see my point of view as well :S

        Honestly, i’m beginning to became very tired about speaking of this issue and trying to get people see what i see… it actually seems i want something that will make the OS crash twice a minute… everyone tries to kill me everytime i speak about it (i understand those who already read (a LOT of) other articles about this made by me… like Benjamin… but not the other ones that came whit “Knifes and guns trying to shoot me”) :(

    15. T.P.D.

      I am a newbie; installed openSUSE 10.3 last September 2007. These are general comments to some of the reactions to the survey results.
      Please enlist the services of a statistician when designing and culling data from the next survey to ensure you get clear data that is most useful.

      To respond to the idea that newbie useage may be down…it may be only because many newbies, such as myself, now use openSUSE exclusively. Personally, I had a dual boot machine until 11.0 was released. Since September of 2007, I used XP all of 5 or 6 times and that was mostly to do updates for applications that I ‘might’ use if Linux failed. It did not. MS is gone entirely now from this computer; I won’t miss it….at all, and the extra storage space is nice. OpenSUSE IS that GOOD! One click install is awesome and updates from root are almost as easy.

      As far as browser and email software is concerned, I do not use Konqueror much but instead rely on Mozilla’s Firefox and Thunderbird. That was what I used with XP, so the complete transition to openSUSE was almost transparent. I would somehow like to impress upon those who now use MS products that: 1) the change involves a short and deliberate learning curve and it is rather painless especially when compared to the rewards and the opportunity to help contribute and shape the products they are using, 2) the openSUSE community and the Linux community at large is just that–a community and not at all like their relationship with MS, 3) their preferences in the way they use their computers and want it to look can be met easily with the different options for desktops/GUIs and applications, 4) I have not had a ‘freeze up’ or ‘system halt’ or ‘lost work’ since I began using openSUSE 10.3 or 11.0.

      I am one of those with family responsibilities that preclude my active participaton now, but that will change in the near future.
      Thank you for reading,
      T.P.D.

    16. Ryan

      In my experience working as a technical professional with the public (working for employers who use Linux on projects they take great pride in) is that when people are forced to use new software, it forces them to adjust and change the way they do things. This adjustment process produces stress. And people don’t like stress, or sources of stress. The development of Linux, in my opinion, is a significant part of technological progress. And more people will likely switch based on brand reputation and not so much on whether they are using Linux, Windows, or something else. People who have TiVO, or certain mobile phones, probably have no idea that Linux is inside.

      Linux still has a ways to go to be fully mature from most consumers’ perspectives, which may be a very short period of time depending on the amount of support it receives. But once fully mature, there’s no reason why it cannot take the place of Windows or any other OS. It’s truly a democracy and free-market where firms can decide on the future of OS development, unlike Microsoft, which is dictated by central planning.

      As an afterthought, the KDE 4 implementation for the home desktop is potentially very nice where everything on the desktop is treated as a widget. I would like to see a widget that creates a menu, more like a TV menu, to further integrate programs like MythTV, or LinuxMCE. Do away with the task bar and icons and have a TV style menu that does all the same stuff. And call the YaST console the Administrative Console where you can create User Consoles where users can manage their files, devices, and backups, from anywhere on the network – kind of the way Google apps is setup. Then Utopia is possible.

    17. Dux

      Hello, reading some comments that are here I will encourage start making suggestions. I would like to do some tests and studies on the Beagle as it is I had declined the application quality and performance of Open Suse. It has also brought problems for many users of the Community Foro Suse (www.forosuse.org) some of us chose to remove it completely and permanently from your system but for novices may be a problem and generate rejection Suse. Maybe you can optimize for Suse or communicate this suggestion the same developer.

      I help with the translator, forgive the mistakes.

      Greetings.

      Dux, JP.

    18. Dux

      Hello again, an idea can generate another idea :D

      Canonical LTD & Ubuntu
      http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com

      Those are some of the ideas Most voted

      Idea #280: Faster Firefox
      Idea #6124: Free Posters/Banners for Schools and Stores
      Idea #1899: Partner with big name game developers
      Idea #20: Push for partnerships with other hardware vendors
      Idea #4478: Attract New Developers to Ubuntu and Open Source
      Idea #107: Prepare Ubuntu to run on EEE-PC
      Idea #316: Codec Manager
      Idea #9573: Partner with other distros to launch advertising campaign about Linux
      Idea #12299: Take Ubuntu into the school and curriculum
      Idea #6440: Ubuntu should join the Google Summer of Code
      Idea #7413: Promote Ubuntu via “Lifestyle” magazines
      Idea #222: Start an Ubuntu Advertising Campaign
      Idea #384: Engage DeviantArt for Ubuntu 8.10 theme competition
      Idea #1622: IPv6 support
      Idea #3129: Support extra keys on advanced USB keyboards
      Idea #28: Enhance mobile devices sync

      It may be interesting to know, analyzing and studying both ourselves and others and curiosity by visiting the Canonical. Anyone who is progressing much is PC-BSD interesting and say they can be very easy to install applications such as 1-click install.

      Luck.

    19. jj

      Why don’t you just ask in the next survey “Are are coming to openSUSE 11.1 from Windows, Linux, another OS, a previous version of openSUSE, or as your very first computer operating system?”?

    20. Ron

      Of course XP users still outnumber Vista users. Most Windows user don’t upgrade their OS until they buy a new PC with the new OS already on it. They also don’t buy a new PC but every 3-4 years, minimum. I work in retail electronics and most of my customers have never even heard of Opensuse. I have been using Opensuse sine Suse 9 and my family has been using it since I “made” them switch when Opensuse 10 came out. They love it. I still have to do the majority of the software installation and updates since they still want to be able to click on a little icon and watch the computer magic take care of the rest. Once Opensuse and the rest of the Linux community make their distros virtually entirely GUI based they will dominate, but until then, Windows, even with all it’s flaws, will literally rule the world.

    21. Dux

      Hello everyone, more suggestions:

      If women do not come to Suse, their approaches to them;) let the chameleon not bite;) and changes color: P

      Friends invite you to take a stroll through the website:

      Webs Sites:
      http://www.linux.com/feature/119488
      http://women.debian.org/home/
      http://women.kde.org/
      http://www.linuxchix.org/
      http://www.chicaslinux.org/
      http://www.linux-girl.com/
      …………………………….

      Perhaps a bit of advertising aimed at women and in the right places

      By the time Suse Woman?

      For those hackers who want to experience, those seeking ideas and more

      The latest news is of 2008-09-11, the project is active and has progressed according to those who have informed me.

      Link:
      http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/whatsnew.html

      He left the latest version of PC-BSD to try: P
      Link:
      http://www.pcbsd.org

      If you need something contactame for this or previous email that will give them

      I do not lack motivation :D, when you have more suggestions they do get :P

      Good luck team!.

      Dux, JP.

    22. mac

      I have been using Suse since ver 9.0. I would like to share a couple of my thoughts…..

      1. I came to linux because I grew very tired of Windows “telling” me how to use my computer. I enjoy the different ways that tasks can ve acheived in linux as it makes me think, but also learn.

      2. Is linux difficult for newbies?? – I believe it depends on the users mindset. I learnt everything I know now by being part of the linux community, and of course I am still learning. I dual booted for about 2 weeks and will never go back. It doesn’t help that schools use Windows, so children grow up thinking computer = MS

      3 Yast – has greatly improved especially in the speed dept in OpenSuse 11, and I don’t think its that difficult to use. Of course, there are other options like smart package manager.

      I believe that everyone uses their computers in different ways. Some people just want to click an icon, and let the computer do the rest. I enjoy using my computer (if something does not work, its not a disaster, it is an opportunity to learn)

      OpenSuse is great. Many thanks for the continued effort.

    23. Dux

      Hello, I think we need more servers to download and / or optimize procreso download since the 85.6% Open Suse download from their official site is complicated and obtain distribution. Then there is the possibility of p2p :) but many downloaded by direct download.

      With regard to marketing, reaching educational and research is a major objective for example if your power uses Suse maybe you bring your home Suse besides free distribution in schools is a good idea and even more so if in Where are taught computer (plus more partners ;)

      No advertising their is little or in the media, newspapers, magazines and more, also outside the field of technology and computers. Everything in its time perhaps shortly and will be in Fortune, The Simpsons and Playboy :P Calendar Suse with celebrities, rich and famous, beautiful boys and girls :P

      The important thing is that your distribution does not lose its Ser, we do not lose their identity and yours to be part of this community, we do not lose our Suse and becomes a Ubuntu or other distribution, we have our philosophy, our ideals, one of our differences is that Suse is a product of high quality, we have a distribution and a community with high quality, for example can be seen from the security, stability and artistic work. I think that is one of the greatest fears of those who contributed directly and indirectly in Suse,

      Here also leave them a bit of my mood, I write with dictionaries and translator, I’m sorry for the mistakes, good luck.

    24. Dux

      Correction: procreso must be in spanish proceso in English is process.

      Thanks :)

    25. Brian

      I’m not sure where on the newbie to experienced user I am I grew up in the Xenix/UNIX side of computing. I did not see the survey and my comments are based on what I am seeing from others on this thread.

      OpenSuse, from what I have heard from those I know who have either experimented in trying Linux or use it, is perceived to be between the home user community that Ubunto has made such inroads in and Redhat that has a good reputation as a business system. Being in between the 2 markets, it needs to define its marketing goals and possibly have a dual marketing approach. Ubunto is think in the university community as is OS. I do not know why as I’m not in the computer or marketing field. My son uses Ubunto and will not move from it. His comments are that it works out of the box with little maintenance to get it going and easily loads needed applications to accomplish jobs.

      I have tried Ubunto as well as other flavors of Linux and on trying OpenSuse, it seemed a more complete OS but as I used the DVD install. OpenSuse seemed to accomplish what Ubunto promises and delivers but OpenSuse delivers more easier. Yes, some stuff takes time to get used to such as the Yast system.

      I am in the camp that believes that to be competitive with Windows with a broad audience it will need to have a broad GUI toolkit. However, let us not forget that Windows is also built for multiple levels of knowledged users. Yes, it has the uninstall program but most users do not have much knowledge as to the contents of the Control Panel and even fewer the use of MSCONFIG, and other line level commands. Even I, who grew up in a non-GUI world learning the command line existence, at this time of my life have more important things to do than figure out the underpinnings of Linux and the broader population not into computers such as Joe Average banker, lawyer, plumber, teacher, etc. also will not take the time.

      I understand much of the community are more computer savvy than probably 98% of the world and those in that population that think that the other 98% think of a computer like you will not understand what makes a system that has popular acceptance. It needs to be easy to install, at least as easy as Vista, it is easy to install and get up and running. it needs to possibly change the default applications to provide more user selection, i.e. loading OpenOffice and FireFox by default, as well as other applications does sound like a great idea but it starts to get confusing with the multiple applications that load. Multiple mail clients, web browsers, address books, etc. gets confusing. Here is where a good installer can help. In Windows apps, Joe Average does not see a list of files and does not need to figure what to click and download. Why not have a high level application list: Evolution, OpenOffice, AbiWord, etc. without showing the multiple files that usually having little or no meaning as the community has this habit of using file names that have little descriptive information.

      I started following Linux in the early ’90s and it has come a long way but, until it moves from an anti-MS, free UNIX like marketing approach and starts thinking in terms of the target market (remember even MS found 1 size does not fit all) and thinks marketing and not that people will simply rush to a better mouse trap or the world hates MS, it will be interesting but not a system for the average user. Also, there is an added challenge; equipment manufacturers need to make the needed drivers but this is a challenge for them as there are so many variants to deal with. It is possible that there need to be a universal GUI installer that all distro makers could incorporate so that hardware makers could write to one rather then the many. Yes, this may lead to application writers to write to it also but, that may not be such a bad thing. Lastly, UNIX created a standard file system and it was used by many of the Linux developers for some time but more recently the developers have gotten away from the standard. It is easier for end users to work with if a standard were set and adhered to as when one need to go into the file structures to find things it is just easier if all are the same as well as from a community support point of view.

      Sorry to be long winded but this is my view of Linux from a user’s standpoint who is not an IT person and is also not Joe Average and has marketing under his belt as well as having followed Linux from near the beginning and grew up with what it was supposed to emulate.