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	<title>Comments on: Upcoming Factory Changes</title>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4812</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply ask your college or local University to mirror opensuse. Ubuntu does not run any mirror-servers, it&#039;s just the lack of interest of your country&#039;s institutions that makes opensuse look bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply ask your college or local University to mirror opensuse. Ubuntu does not run any mirror-servers, it&#8217;s just the lack of interest of your country&#8217;s institutions that makes opensuse look bad.</p>
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		<title>By: poeml</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4809</link>
		<dc:creator>poeml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;
Update about the US mirror situation
&lt;/strong&gt;

During the last days, I have been working with someone from the US to debug
network installs and gather data on performance of individual mirrors, and I
actually disabled 4 US mirrors yesterday, which means that the remaining ones
should give a much better service to you.

Yes, the mirror situation in the US isn&#039;t very good.

There are only a few remaining.

&lt;em&gt;
There is a real opportunity that I would like to point out to you guys. It is something that you can do to improve the situation. There is a mirror that most of you know and that is providing good service. It is the only mirror in the US which hosts the build service repositories, so it is really very important to keep it running.
It is in need of resources to continue mirroring us. So,
&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;
please go to http://us.unixheads.org/?donate and help support this mirror!
&lt;/strong&gt;

With support from the community, this server can also mirror Factory.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><br />
Update about the US mirror situation<br />
</strong></p>
<p>During the last days, I have been working with someone from the US to debug<br />
network installs and gather data on performance of individual mirrors, and I<br />
actually disabled 4 US mirrors yesterday, which means that the remaining ones<br />
should give a much better service to you.</p>
<p>Yes, the mirror situation in the US isn&#8217;t very good.</p>
<p>There are only a few remaining.</p>
<p><em><br />
There is a real opportunity that I would like to point out to you guys. It is something that you can do to improve the situation. There is a mirror that most of you know and that is providing good service. It is the only mirror in the US which hosts the build service repositories, so it is really very important to keep it running.<br />
It is in need of resources to continue mirroring us. So,<br />
</em></p>
<p><strong><br />
please go to <a href="http://us.unixheads.org/?donate" rel="nofollow">http://us.unixheads.org/?donate</a> and help support this mirror!<br />
</strong></p>
<p>With support from the community, this server can also mirror Factory.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Estep</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4808</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Estep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, unlike Fedora, Ubuntu, or even Mandriva, openSuSE is *not* mirrored by many colleges, universities, or even national laboratories (even Solaris has a better US-based mirror presence, at least in the educational/research area, than openSuSE).  Argonne Mational Laboratory is a case in point; it&#039;s easily one of the fastest Linux mirrors in the United States, yet openSuSE is conspicuously missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, unlike Fedora, Ubuntu, or even Mandriva, openSuSE is *not* mirrored by many colleges, universities, or even national laboratories (even Solaris has a better US-based mirror presence, at least in the educational/research area, than openSuSE).  Argonne Mational Laboratory is a case in point; it&#8217;s easily one of the fastest Linux mirrors in the United States, yet openSuSE is conspicuously missing.</p>
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		<title>By: sabakka</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4807</link>
		<dc:creator>sabakka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When this will be done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When this will be done?</p>
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		<title>By: Noname</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4806</link>
		<dc:creator>Noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... now what about the new factory layout? 

The last factory update left my system partially broken, and I&#039;m desperately waiting for the next update to get things going again. However, the old factory repo is dead, the transitional repo hasn&#039;t seen updates for quite some time, and the new one is still empty :(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; now what about the new factory layout? </p>
<p>The last factory update left my system partially broken, and I&#8217;m desperately waiting for the next update to get things going again. However, the old factory repo is dead, the transitional repo hasn&#8217;t seen updates for quite some time, and the new one is still empty <img src='http://news.opensuse.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: poeml</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4805</link>
		<dc:creator>poeml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are mistaking something. When you think you are downloading from download.opensuse.org, you are in reality downloading from a mirror. The mirror will be located in the US, if you are located in the US yourself. Some mirrors are better than others. We generally have not enough feedback about mirror &quot;quality&quot; in the US, to better adjust the load sharing between the mirrors. The additional problem is that we lack mirrors in the US in general. So it would be very good if you ask local organizations that run mirrors about mirroring openSUSE. Another thing that would help is if zypper/YaST would make the mirror accesses transparent. Right now, the user gets no idea which mirror is used. I want zypper/YaST to display which mirror is currently being accessed. This would make it much easier to collect useful feedback, and users wouldn&#039;t think that download.opensuse.org is slow. (I have just posted to the zypp-devel at opensuse.org mailing list about it.) A reply from download.opensuse.org maybe takes 15-30 ms, plus overseas latencies. I don&#039;t think it would be a limiting factor for you (not in the US at least).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are mistaking something. When you think you are downloading from download.opensuse.org, you are in reality downloading from a mirror. The mirror will be located in the US, if you are located in the US yourself. Some mirrors are better than others. We generally have not enough feedback about mirror &#8220;quality&#8221; in the US, to better adjust the load sharing between the mirrors. The additional problem is that we lack mirrors in the US in general. So it would be very good if you ask local organizations that run mirrors about mirroring openSUSE. Another thing that would help is if zypper/YaST would make the mirror accesses transparent. Right now, the user gets no idea which mirror is used. I want zypper/YaST to display which mirror is currently being accessed. This would make it much easier to collect useful feedback, and users wouldn&#8217;t think that download.opensuse.org is slow. (I have just posted to the zypp-devel at opensuse.org mailing list about it.) A reply from download.opensuse.org maybe takes 15-30 ms, plus overseas latencies. I don&#8217;t think it would be a limiting factor for you (not in the US at least).</p>
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		<title>By: Γριφεγ</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4791</link>
		<dc:creator>Γριφεγ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 01:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUSE is (mainly) a European distribution and from Europe the mirrors I get are always very fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUSE is (mainly) a European distribution and from Europe the mirrors I get are always very fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Bharat</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4790</link>
		<dc:creator>Bharat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link you gave is for the mirrors of OSS and non-OSS repos. I am happy with them. What I am hoping for is fast mirrors for factory repos. The current situation is fine for me. But I just want it to get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link you gave is for the mirrors of OSS and non-OSS repos. I am happy with them. What I am hoping for is fast mirrors for factory repos. The current situation is fine for me. But I just want it to get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4789</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote:

Simply use the browser of your choice, manually navigate into the directory containing the repository for which you want a mirror list and click on one of the “Mirrors” links on the right side (next to “Metalink”).

Voila, there is your mirror list ;)

E.g. http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/EULA.txt?mirrorlist</description>
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<p>Simply use the browser of your choice, manually navigate into the directory containing the repository for which you want a mirror list and click on one of the “Mirrors” links on the right side (next to “Metalink”).</p>
<p>Voila, there is your mirror list <img src='http://news.opensuse.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>E.g. <a href="http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/EULA.txt?mirrorlist" rel="nofollow">http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/EULA.txt?mirrorlist</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/09/23/upcoming-factory-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-4788</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you don&#039;t get the concept of a REDIRECTOR, do you?

If you get always redirected to a slow mirror configure it to use a mirror of your choice. But no, instead of that you expect the distro to host mirrors across the world and start to bitch if it doesn&#039;t work instead of being proactive and either to figure this no brainer out or to ask for support so someone else tells you this.

Please have fun with buntu and enjoy their updates ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you don&#8217;t get the concept of a REDIRECTOR, do you?</p>
<p>If you get always redirected to a slow mirror configure it to use a mirror of your choice. But no, instead of that you expect the distro to host mirrors across the world and start to bitch if it doesn&#8217;t work instead of being proactive and either to figure this no brainer out or to ask for support so someone else tells you this.</p>
<p>Please have fun with buntu and enjoy their updates &#8230;</p>
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