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		<title>By: Old Stranger</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5727</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Developers!

I guess I missed the point in my previous post. For me it doesn&#039;t matter how it looks like (in respect of comparison different versions of KDE). I mean - SuSE is not &quot;GUCCI&quot; of operational systems it&#039;s Mercedes! I&#039;d rather suggest my own version of their brand Stability und Stability (feel free to add whatever you like for E!) It DOES all the jobs it has to do! (At least for me). 

And what is important - you do not need to be a rocket scientist to make it work! 

Have FUN!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Developers!</p>
<p>I guess I missed the point in my previous post. For me it doesn&#8217;t matter how it looks like (in respect of comparison different versions of KDE). I mean &#8211; SuSE is not &#8220;GUCCI&#8221; of operational systems it&#8217;s Mercedes! I&#8217;d rather suggest my own version of their brand Stability und Stability (feel free to add whatever you like for E!) It DOES all the jobs it has to do! (At least for me). </p>
<p>And what is important &#8211; you do not need to be a rocket scientist to make it work! </p>
<p>Have FUN!</p>
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		<title>By: Old Stranger</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5726</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Developers! 

Thank you for your efforts. Your work deserves the highest respect. 
I cannot say that I participated (did not have capacity to contribute), I was present at some Linux development seminars organized at the IBM Building at Manhattan and it was something that inspired me. I tried (mainly played, like with some toys) many of the different distributions. It was (and still is) FUN!
Sometime 5-6 years ago I managed to download and to install I think Mandriva it was and during installation I checked off all the boxes (servers including!!!!) on my Dell 400 MHz laptop. 
I was surprised when our IT chief popped up in my office couple of hours later and informed that we&#039;re in a neck dip &quot;situation&quot; - the network got mad and he cannot find the reason. I quietly unplugged the network cable from my laptop, produced to the colleague a bottle of cold bear and tried to calm down him. The network slowly returned to normal state, but since then I have highest respect for Linux and NEVER touch the network and network related setting without IT staff. 
SuSE returned to my Official desktop (not supported by the organization, but quietly assisted by some of the IT brat) at 10.0 level in double boot configuration on a single 80GB HDD - not much, you may say, but at this level we met the critical virus attack that rendered all our Windows computers unusable for quite a while. SuSE saved me big time then. It lacked video playback (I&#039;m not too much in making it tuned. At least I wasn&#039;t at the time), but MP3 playback from external HDD worked, access to the mail server rocked and read-only access to all My Document folder was more than enough to continue working. Another Chief of IT came to disturb me to &quot;back up&quot; my docs from infected computer. He was surprised to learn that the work is going on and as a cherry on a pie I even managed to show him location of the virus-infested files, including those located to at the &quot;superhidden&quot; directory. IT Chief was pleased to know that our back up mail server was powered by some of the Linux version. The guy who was responsible for it, did what he knew best to work for it and installed Linux. Since then I&#039;m always in Linux company. At home I run SuSE 10.2. One of my son has 10.3, another 11.0 (KDE 3). For friends I install Ubuntu (GUCCI as they say of the distributions). 
What I like in SuSE - ability to address the problem at several levels (terminal - I&#039;ll try to avoid it, simple graphic interface when you have to start YAST with simple graphics, and finally normal or full graphics mode). At home I have SuSE 10.2 and see no point of upgrade - all I need works there! Why the hell to kill a day for movement of all the stuff to a new installation? See no point now. 
Expect at some point of Linux development to see the distribution that can be comfortably loaded over the previous installation. Can it be achieved by reformatting only specific mounts/partitions. 
Also expect to be able to install SuSE 11.1 to my new Asus EeePC 1000H. I hope the set of drivers can be included in the official release.
Respect open and constructive atmosphere of the OpenSuSE developers. Best of Luck and Inspiration to ALL of you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Developers! </p>
<p>Thank you for your efforts. Your work deserves the highest respect.<br />
I cannot say that I participated (did not have capacity to contribute), I was present at some Linux development seminars organized at the IBM Building at Manhattan and it was something that inspired me. I tried (mainly played, like with some toys) many of the different distributions. It was (and still is) FUN!<br />
Sometime 5-6 years ago I managed to download and to install I think Mandriva it was and during installation I checked off all the boxes (servers including!!!!) on my Dell 400 MHz laptop.<br />
I was surprised when our IT chief popped up in my office couple of hours later and informed that we&#8217;re in a neck dip &#8220;situation&#8221; &#8211; the network got mad and he cannot find the reason. I quietly unplugged the network cable from my laptop, produced to the colleague a bottle of cold bear and tried to calm down him. The network slowly returned to normal state, but since then I have highest respect for Linux and NEVER touch the network and network related setting without IT staff.<br />
SuSE returned to my Official desktop (not supported by the organization, but quietly assisted by some of the IT brat) at 10.0 level in double boot configuration on a single 80GB HDD &#8211; not much, you may say, but at this level we met the critical virus attack that rendered all our Windows computers unusable for quite a while. SuSE saved me big time then. It lacked video playback (I&#8217;m not too much in making it tuned. At least I wasn&#8217;t at the time), but MP3 playback from external HDD worked, access to the mail server rocked and read-only access to all My Document folder was more than enough to continue working. Another Chief of IT came to disturb me to &#8220;back up&#8221; my docs from infected computer. He was surprised to learn that the work is going on and as a cherry on a pie I even managed to show him location of the virus-infested files, including those located to at the &#8220;superhidden&#8221; directory. IT Chief was pleased to know that our back up mail server was powered by some of the Linux version. The guy who was responsible for it, did what he knew best to work for it and installed Linux. Since then I&#8217;m always in Linux company. At home I run SuSE 10.2. One of my son has 10.3, another 11.0 (KDE 3). For friends I install Ubuntu (GUCCI as they say of the distributions).<br />
What I like in SuSE &#8211; ability to address the problem at several levels (terminal &#8211; I&#8217;ll try to avoid it, simple graphic interface when you have to start YAST with simple graphics, and finally normal or full graphics mode). At home I have SuSE 10.2 and see no point of upgrade &#8211; all I need works there! Why the hell to kill a day for movement of all the stuff to a new installation? See no point now.<br />
Expect at some point of Linux development to see the distribution that can be comfortably loaded over the previous installation. Can it be achieved by reformatting only specific mounts/partitions.<br />
Also expect to be able to install SuSE 11.1 to my new Asus EeePC 1000H. I hope the set of drivers can be included in the official release.<br />
Respect open and constructive atmosphere of the OpenSuSE developers. Best of Luck and Inspiration to ALL of you!</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5706</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have not given much informaton regarding the nature of the freeze. Does the mouse also freeze up or simply the app you are in? Once you are not using compiz you can easily close a frozen app in KDE by pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC the mouse curser will change to the skull of death. Click anywhere in the frozen app window and you are ready to go. NB DO NOT CLICK ON YOUR DESKTOP or you will have to hard reboot because it will also greet you with a black screen. You may also wish to make sure that your system settings are correct eg screen resolution etc. You may also wish to try GNOME. Although I am a KDE fan I find that GNOME works well for newbies. I have set up GNOMME on a few laptops of similar spec with no problems. 

The good thing about GNOME is that you can force a quit even when running compiz in the event of an app freeze unlike KDE.I wish KDE fixes this or maybe someone could tell me how to to do it in KDE. The openSUSE made it clear that KDE 4.0 that ships with 11.0 was not fully ready. I took that to mean that I should only use it as a preview understanding that it was crippled. Not a SUSE fault. I encourage you to re-install using GNOME as your choice. When you are selecting your software select the KDE 3.5 base and desktop options. This way you can play with both desktops. Try upgrading to open office 3.0.there are some improvements and it loads much faster than the earlier version. Be sure to load on all of your repositories eg Mozilla, Openoffice, VideoLAN, (cannot remember which display card you have, but if you have an ATI or geforce add the relevant repository), the OSS and NON -OSS should be already on.

Go here http://opensuse-community.org/1-click-collection to get your multimedia codecs for GNOME]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have not given much informaton regarding the nature of the freeze. Does the mouse also freeze up or simply the app you are in? Once you are not using compiz you can easily close a frozen app in KDE by pressing CTRL + ALT + ESC the mouse curser will change to the skull of death. Click anywhere in the frozen app window and you are ready to go. NB DO NOT CLICK ON YOUR DESKTOP or you will have to hard reboot because it will also greet you with a black screen. You may also wish to make sure that your system settings are correct eg screen resolution etc. You may also wish to try GNOME. Although I am a KDE fan I find that GNOME works well for newbies. I have set up GNOMME on a few laptops of similar spec with no problems. </p>
<p>The good thing about GNOME is that you can force a quit even when running compiz in the event of an app freeze unlike KDE.I wish KDE fixes this or maybe someone could tell me how to to do it in KDE. The openSUSE made it clear that KDE 4.0 that ships with 11.0 was not fully ready. I took that to mean that I should only use it as a preview understanding that it was crippled. Not a SUSE fault. I encourage you to re-install using GNOME as your choice. When you are selecting your software select the KDE 3.5 base and desktop options. This way you can play with both desktops. Try upgrading to open office 3.0.there are some improvements and it loads much faster than the earlier version. Be sure to load on all of your repositories eg Mozilla, Openoffice, VideoLAN, (cannot remember which display card you have, but if you have an ATI or geforce add the relevant repository), the OSS and NON -OSS should be already on.</p>
<p>Go here <a href="http://opensuse-community.org/1-click-collection" rel="nofollow">http://opensuse-community.org/1-click-collection</a> to get your multimedia codecs for GNOME</p>
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		<title>By: Jurman</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5281</link>
		<dc:creator>Jurman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi!
I&#039;m new to Linux and chose an OpenSUSE 11.0 for my personal laptop. First I installed it with KDE4 option and it was freezing and crashing all the time. Then I reinstalled it with KDE3.5 and it&#039;s better now - however NOT satisfactory. Since I&#039;m new to GNU/Linux OS I don&#039;t use very much of the software and tools that come with the OS, yust OpenOffice suite (2.4, I belive) and some other apps. You can imagine my frustration when the computer freezes randomly and yust too often. Is it a software or a hardware problem (Asus X58C laptop, designed for Windows :D )?? Couse when it&#039;s not &quot;frozen&quot;, it works fine!

Thanks for any kind of suggestions (probably I should have gone to FAQ first :D)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
I&#8217;m new to Linux and chose an OpenSUSE 11.0 for my personal laptop. First I installed it with KDE4 option and it was freezing and crashing all the time. Then I reinstalled it with KDE3.5 and it&#8217;s better now &#8211; however NOT satisfactory. Since I&#8217;m new to GNU/Linux OS I don&#8217;t use very much of the software and tools that come with the OS, yust OpenOffice suite (2.4, I belive) and some other apps. You can imagine my frustration when the computer freezes randomly and yust too often. Is it a software or a hardware problem (Asus X58C laptop, designed for Windows :D )?? Couse when it&#8217;s not &#8220;frozen&#8221;, it works fine!</p>
<p>Thanks for any kind of suggestions (probably I should have gone to FAQ first :D)</p>
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		<title>By: susanofindia</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5280</link>
		<dc:creator>susanofindia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am also new to Open Suze...and from reading your comments, I&#039;d be considered an extreme novice (not quite illiterate...) I&#039;m running a Suze 11.0 with a KDE4 from a disk download and have been having a few problems configuring the sound card/redognition. Is it possible to take off KDE 4 and load up something more stable? Any suggestions? I&#039;m so happy to have this program. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also new to Open Suze&#8230;and from reading your comments, I&#8217;d be considered an extreme novice (not quite illiterate&#8230;) I&#8217;m running a Suze 11.0 with a KDE4 from a disk download and have been having a few problems configuring the sound card/redognition. Is it possible to take off KDE 4 and load up something more stable? Any suggestions? I&#8217;m so happy to have this program. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5215</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your comments re destroying any Processors is quite probable and not a very long stretch of the imaging at all - Indeed it is easy to do up until 11.1 I am told. The Installation Process from DVD is the most CPU and resource intense long drawn out acid test for your PC. Up until now there may be NO CPU Frequency dampeners and so if an overheat gets detected we have to rely in the Motherboard shutting down the PC at Critical Temp.
If you ever note many a misread from DVD not meeting its CRC copy check value, chances are you CPU is overtemp and making errors.
My Bug at
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435462.
This may explain a lot of things and you may want to review you install log for any string contained in the bug report
Cheers and wait for a very cool day!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments re destroying any Processors is quite probable and not a very long stretch of the imaging at all &#8211; Indeed it is easy to do up until 11.1 I am told. The Installation Process from DVD is the most CPU and resource intense long drawn out acid test for your PC. Up until now there may be NO CPU Frequency dampeners and so if an overheat gets detected we have to rely in the Motherboard shutting down the PC at Critical Temp.<br />
If you ever note many a misread from DVD not meeting its CRC copy check value, chances are you CPU is overtemp and making errors.<br />
My Bug at<br />
<a href="https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435462" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435462</a>.<br />
This may explain a lot of things and you may want to review you install log for any string contained in the bug report<br />
Cheers and wait for a very cool day!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: suseuser</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5205</link>
		<dc:creator>suseuser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really don&#039;t know why you guys keep yelling that opensuse11 is not usable. The only part that doesn&#039;t function on my machine is Compiz (who needs that eyecandy anyway?) and I believe that AMD/ATI is responsible for that problem. Or perhaps it is PEBKAC, who knows. 

Opensuse11 is an excellent distro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know why you guys keep yelling that opensuse11 is not usable. The only part that doesn&#8217;t function on my machine is Compiz (who needs that eyecandy anyway?) and I believe that AMD/ATI is responsible for that problem. Or perhaps it is PEBKAC, who knows. </p>
<p>Opensuse11 is an excellent distro.</p>
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		<title>By: BeSt</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5200</link>
		<dc:creator>BeSt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks ! I&#039;ll test this iso as soon as I am at home !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks ! I&#8217;ll test this iso as soon as I am at home !</p>
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		<title>By: R. J.</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5198</link>
		<dc:creator>R. J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You could wait for the live cd&#039;s to be released which should be soon or download the mini iso and do an internet install

The mini iso&#039;s can be found at http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could wait for the live cd&#8217;s to be released which should be soon or download the mini iso and do an internet install</p>
<p>The mini iso&#8217;s can be found at <a href="http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/" rel="nofollow">http://download.opensuse.org/factory/iso/</a></p>
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		<title>By: BeSt</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/10/19/status-update-opensuse-111-beta-3/comment-page-1/#comment-5196</link>
		<dc:creator>BeSt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m new to openSuse, and I would like to test openSuse 11.1 beta3 (beta2 doesn&#039;t boot on my computer, freezes when &quot;mounting CD drive..&quot;). You guys spoke about &quot;running 11.1 b3&quot;: where can I find it ?
Thank you for your(s) answer(s).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to openSuse, and I would like to test openSuse 11.1 beta3 (beta2 doesn&#8217;t boot on my computer, freezes when &#8220;mounting CD drive..&#8221;). You guys spoke about &#8220;running 11.1 b3&#8243;: where can I find it ?<br />
Thank you for your(s) answer(s).</p>
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