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Development Release: openSUSE 11.1 Beta 4 Now Available

November 3rd, 2008 by

Hot on the heels of openSUSE 11.1 beta 3, the openSUSE Project is happy to announce the availability of openSUSE 11.1 beta 4.

This release includes a number of important bugfixes since the last beta, as well as a few new bugs that need to be squashed before the final release. Read on for details about this release and how to get involved with testing.

Screenshots

KDE4 Cover Switch Effect

KDE4 Cube Effect

GNOME Desktop SearchF-Spot Photo Manager

If you’re curious about what openSUSE 11.1 will look like, have a look at the rest of the screenshots on the openSUSE wiki. Thanks to Kevin Dupuy and Martin Schlander for taking the time to put up the screenshots!

Important: Call for Testing

We all want openSUSE 11.1 to be the best release yet, and we need your help to get there. This release is ready for widespread testing, and we’re encouraging everyone to download and test the beta release. Please run the release through your usual routine, and let us know about any bugs or other issues that you find. Remember that this is a beta release, and is not suitable for use on production systems, however.

We have a page of new features specific to openSUSE 11.1 here: http://en.opensuse.org/Testing:Features_11.1 This is a definitive list of new features added into 11.1 that need testing.

Please use this page to identify and test new features — and then mark them complete when you’ve finished testing.

See openSUSE.org/Testing for more information on Testing.

To follow the testing and development process, we suggest that you subscribe to the openSUSE-Factory mailing list, and join the #openSUSE-Factory channel on Freenode to discuss openSUSE development.

What’s changed since beta 3?

Major changes in this release include:

Inclusion of Nomad, a set of components that provide an unmatchable remote desktop experience to openSUSE. See more at: http://en.opensuse.org/Nomad

Timo Hoenig reports that fingerprint reader support is now feature complete, and he’s accepting bugs. The most common fingerprint readers on the market should “just work,” and users can register their fingerprint using the YaST module. Once registered, users can log in using their fingerprint. Console, GDM, ‘su – $USER’, gnome-screensaver, and gnomsu should all work with fingerprint support. KDE status is unknown.

  • Linux 2.6.27.4 kernel
  • Mono 2.0.1
  • GNOME 2.24.1
  • VirtualBox 2.0.4
  • Evolution 2.24.1
  • Banshee 1.3.3

See DistroWatch for an expanded list of packages being shipped in the Factory distribution.

Webcam Support Re-enabled

Some Webcam and framegrabber drivers had been removed from the kernel, but are now re-enabled in beta 4. The list of supported drivers includes:

Mediavision Pro Movie Studio
Quickcam BW
QuickCam Colour
W9966CF Webcam (FlyCam Supra and others)
CPiA
CPiA2
Stradis 4:2:2 MPEG-2
Zoran ZR36057/36067
Sony Vaio Picturebook Motion Eye
Siemens-Nixdorf ‘Multimedia eXtension Board’
Conexant cx23416/cx23415 MPEG encoder/decoder (aka ivtv)
USB 3com HomeConnect (aka vicam)
USB IBM (Xirlink) C-it Camera
USB Konica Webcam
USB Logitech Quickcam Messenger
OmniVision Camera Chip
USB W996[87]CF JPEG Dual Mode Camera
USB OV511 Camera
USB SE401 Camera
USB STV680 (Pencam) Camera
USB Philips Cameras
ForteMedia FM801 + TEA5757 tuner

Thanks to Jean Delvare for the report.

Media and Download

11.1 beta 4 is just one of the releases that will lead to the final 11.1 release. You can find the entire roadmap on the openSUSE wiki: http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap. Downloads are available at http://software.opensuse.org/developer.

See http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Selection for a full list of mirrors. Note that you don’t need to choose a mirror yourself, but you can use the mirror list if you want or need to select a mirror manually.

Most Annoying Bugs

The list of annoying bugs is getting smaller! Still, a few things that we need to mention:

  • Bug #440816: OpenOffice.org 3.0 cannot be started
  • GNOME branding is broken with DVD installs, looks correct on live cds
  • GNOME updater will ask for registration, this is broken. Just ignore the question
  • KDE updater will not ask for smolt integration (which the GNOME updater should ask for too).

Future Release Announcements

Note to openSUSE contributors: If you have any changes or features to call out for future release announcements, please send an email to Zonker with any information that should be in that announcement. (Preferably at least two days before the scheduled release.

Thanks, and have a lot of fun!

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41 Responses to “Development Release: openSUSE 11.1 Beta 4 Now Available”

  1. R. J.

    Thanks for the work you’ve put into this. It is really starting to come together and look like another great release will be had in December.

  2. Burke

    I hope openSUSE includes a new Plasma-Theme for 11.1 Though Aya includes Systemcolors, the theme has IMO quite poorly developed elements.
    An improved version of this one ( http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/openSUSE?content=91434 ) could be useful because it fits better to opensuse.

    Also it is time to get rid of ozone-window-decoration and to develop some openSUSEish(maybe based on the default-KDE-oxygen-decoration with green stripes). And a unified wallpaer for KDE an Gnome would be nice.

    Apart from artwork-concerns it look quite nice. Hopefully fingerprint-support in KDM is possible in the future.

    • R. J.

      Nice theme, and it is far better than the current one.

    • THe wallpaper is the same… we just had different wallpapers because the GNOME had a newer, final wallpaper. THe next beta/RC will have unified wallpapers.

      • Eliasse Diaite

        Hi gentlemen,

        I do know what you mean with unified wallpapers, but I can assure you that this new wallpaper is far the most beautiful one the development team ever delivered. Now is time to harmonize the wallpaper and the kicker.

        Please think twice before attempting to change it. The suggestion of Burke is unfortunately not the right solution. What we got here is exactly the improvement of the one he referred to with the link.

        Sorry Burke, there is for the moment no better one. And do not forget the tradition: open(SuSE) is fundamentally the magic combination of two main components: in one hand KDE as the default desktop, in another hand YaST as the unique and uncomparable system configuration tool to make openSUSE the best Linux distribution.

        Best regards for the Development Team.

        openSUSE Linux is unbreakable.

        Have a lot of fun…

        • Burke

          Sorry, but I do not right understand, what your point is. I also like the new gnome-wallpaper and look forward to see it in KDE too. However, if you meant the old walpaper, it is just a matter of taste. I can life with both.

          I you meant the plasma-theme: I think it integrates best with the current look of openSUSE. I think it has something to with corporate design.

          regards

  3. Karsten

    Seriously guys

    > Bug #440816: OpenOffice.org 3.0 cannot be started
    wtf? This is what is commonly called a “showstopper”, I love opensuse and their releases, also the work you put into a release combined with packman (they started packing very early this release/time it seems?, proof or just imagination?).
    But still, not beeing able to launch openoffice (even if fixed after a quick update), just seems to me lika a no-go =/

    Guys, you are killling off a very interested crowd with stuff like this, “KDE updater will not ask for smolt integration (which the GNOME updater should ask for too).”, well bad luck I guess, but OO.o is a very important part for nearly all day to day use (beta 4, right before rc eh?), important to probably everybody on a desktop target, not working at all, seriously, wtf?

    I’ll still check it out, but please try to get your teams to release on time, it’s a huge problem with most community projects (just look at the linux kernel), but not being able to reach Milestones is an issue for every software project calling for attention!
    (I imagine even most of Novell staff wont be able to check this release out due to the office problems, even if they migrated to OpenSource/Gnu-Linux, they will use OpenOffice, not being able to come up with a presentation, holy *ÜÖÄ*)
    As a sidemark I think it’s a flaw in the release process, the release manager (stephan beineri if i am not mistaken) should be pushing this back and press OO.o. team to push harder or less (yes I read about the split, but close to a .1 release, get it STABLE(fat printing!) first

    For technical focused persons, who really gets the .0 version of a product or better put, who got the 701 eeepc or waited for an atom one? If you know this one just has one mayor flaw (atom coming or being able to use OO.o) just spare yourself the hassle, wait some time

    argh, can’t stop!
    just as a side comment, try to get your buildservice team to promote their advantages to the public, not just the “build your own package to block the factory rebuild” part, but to get current “semi” supported package repository part into the public, like the 4.1 kde packages (not release any 4.0.x updates because nobody requested?, people don’t fucking know!)

    Keep on marching with awesome, experienced and capable persons, still most of them need guidance through a combining force, the stuff with forces and vectors eh? So If your teams would be more aligned to deadlines I think every release would look more like a “project snapshot” even though every part project is at a very different stage (KDE 4.1 settling, gnome just release new version, xfce too i think, oo.o split bababa.)

    Maybe I am just doing jumps in my thinking, but I think opensuse would be so much better if they got their shit together as a team of different projects focusing each on their strength and one unified goal.
    (simplified for the cause of a better world, I hope the message is still readable though, anyways, keep on pushing!)
    Anyway I think opensuse 11.0 combined with build service repos kills off most current gnu/linux distributions out there, on nearly every part of the game, easy for newcomers, leaving levers for the experienced
    Leaving out the ones aiming for a different target, opensuse got the main desktop at their hands, preparing a great SLES 11 for Novell.

    Waaaaaah,
    still wishing you the best for I think a great upcoming version, using a longtime supported kernel (from a freelance inside man) this can/will be a hard to miss release!

    • isegrim

      “But still, not beeing able to launch openoffice (…) just seems to me lika a no-go”
      “OO.o is a very important part for nearly all day to day use”

      It is a Beta-Release. It is not even a Releasecandidate.Beta-Releases are not meant for day-to-day-use.
      If you are looking for an openSUSE-Release that you can work with, you may want to install openSUSE 11.0, it works fine for me (ok, I failed to get that 3-D-Eyecandy to work, but who needs that stuff anyway?).

      “not being able to reach Milestones is an issue for every software project”
      For me it looks like they are able to reach milestones, because there were Final-Releases in the past.

      etc.

      Maybe I need another cup of coffee because I don’t see you point.
      But what I see are improvements in the distro itself and in the way the hackers talk to the community. The conversation is more open to non-technical people and there is more information than before.

    • R. J.

      why would openoffice problem be a showstopper, this is a beta, not a release candaiate, understand that beta’s have problems

      Next you need to understand the roadmap is not a set in stone thing, dates change. The OpenSUSE team have a good record of hitting those dates.

      Opernsuse team does quite well and has their shit together. But, I will say people who complain without anything constructive like you have need to understand what a beta is. And since you want to see how well they have their shit together perhaps you should go investigate just how many companies and govt departments are migrating to OpenSUSE and SUSE.

    • Beineri

      > > Bug #440816: OpenOffice.org 3.0 cannot be started

      There will be an online update to fix that.

      > the release manager (stephan beineri if i am not mistaken)

      You are mistaken.

    • Karsten

      Sorry for my inappropriate tone, I should have slept a night over it.

      “This release is ready for widespread testing, and we’re encouraging everyone to download and test the beta release. Please run the release through your usual routine, and let us know about any bugs or other issues that you find. Remember that this is a beta release, and is not suitable for use on production systems, however.”
      It’s just that a broken OpenOffice is so important these days why I wondered why it didn’t got pushed back for quality reasons.

      I’ve seen it got fixed, maybe create a newspost so people will know a big issue is gone?

  4. Karsten

    # KDE updater will not ask for smolt integration (which the GNOME updater should ask for too).

  5. Mark

    So far working fine. Great job as always. Best thing for me is ~/.fonts.conf is now accepted in firefox (somehow it doesn’t work in 11.0).. When will You provide nvidia drivers for this release?

  6. Bobby

    Congrats and thanks for breaking the Thursday spell :) I will be testing 64-bit version today.

  7. Erunno

    I tried the GNOME Live-CD. Generally my impression was positive but I think you are going overboard with the default Compiz effects. Are wobbly windows really necessary by default? I’ve also encountered a bug where Banshee crashes instantly when trying to access the preferences. Other than that kudos to the GNOME team, the application selection is excellent and the whole desktop looks incredibly clean.

  8. I’m waiting for OpenSUSE 11.1 Beta 3/4 PowerPC for my PegasosPPC II G4 machine, still no Beta 3/4 PowerPC DVD/torrent available for download :-(

  9. damada

    I am very much looking forward to the Final Release of 11.1 — and I had big hopes in the new YaST printer dialog since KDE4 almost completely dropped printing support. Yet, I find this new dialog very confusing and I am unable to configure two IPP network printers. This has been horrible enough with the old YaST module, to the point that it was unusable for non-sophisticated users — and it seems to me it is now even more confusing. Seriously, the wizard is a joke!

    Sorry for the rant, but I think that new tool does not justify any minute put into it. We would be better of with the old one, imho.

    • R. J.

      Have you tried asking for help with this in the forum?

      • damada

        I think a printer configuration dialog should be straightforward enough so that someone with more than average skills should be able to use it without any help from a forum… Since I doubt that the current state is what was initially targeted, I filed a bug-report. We’ll see what the devs say.

        For the time being, I will stick to the CUPS webinterface, which is simpler and more logical.

  10. PLEASE, seed delta torrents…can’t download nothing!!

  11. slayer

    I just checked out beta4 and I have to say I love it (well, apart from the “most annoying bugs”). KDE 4.1 is just sooo much better than 4.0 was. Really a smooth experience, with reasonable speed. Keep up the great work!

  12. HighwayStar

    Please, anybody seed torrent for openSUSE-11.1-Beta3_Beta4-DVD-i386.delta.iso, staying on one chunk left for five hours without any progress.

  13. Peder

    My most annoying bug is that if you select XFCE during install it fires up fugly xdm.
    If you change to gdm and restart it just hangs with a spinning mouse icon.
    If you install GNOME and add XFCE it works.

  14. Henry

    Linux is looking better all the time. I looking forward to the final release!

  15. Fanatastic, this beta release already runs very smoothly!
    I’ve added the Packman and the Videolan repository – everything (apart from those current known bugs with OpenOffice etc.) working fine.
    Unbelievable, that this is only beta 4!
    For me the openSUSE 11.1 is going to be the best distro out there.
    Thank you, guys, for your great work!

    Michael

  16. Jaco

    At last! Fingerprint sensor support that works out-of-the-box. Will surely test this ASAP. Thanks guys, great work. Also I would like to note that webcam support is *MUCH* better than a couple of years ago. The maturity of a distro in my eyes can be measured by the peripheral support it offers. It’s the bells and whistles that makes the difference on the desktop. I know that a server does not need that, but never underestimate the power of eye-candy and hassle-free hardware support.

    Thanks once again guys!

  17. Andy

    Could anyone help, does anyone know if OpenSuse 11.1 will ahve a bug fix in it to sort out BCM 43XX Wireless Lans? OpenSuse 10.0 worked like a dreal on an HP Mini Note, with Opensuse 11.0 its all gone south.

    • Alan

      Three programs that work on SUSE 10.3 but do not work on SUSE 11.0. These are ngspice: It compiles fine, but the ngnutmeg part (the graphics part) does not work at all. dislin does not work on SUSE 11.0. This is plotting program. Some features of the program, “bibletime” do not work on SUSE 11.0 bu do on 10.3. I hope Suse 11.1 fexes the incompatibility.

  18. kyle h

    **Schlander for taking the time to put up the screenshots!
    ^thanks to

  19. grsuse

    i m trying to install http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta4/iso/openSUSE-11.1-Beta4-KDE4-LiveCD-i686.iso.
    The installation begins properly but when it is creating X config it stops. why;;;;
    my machine :
    Vendor: Intel Corporation
    Model: i845
    Driver: intel (3D Support)
    Processor (CPU): Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz

  20. peter

    Hi

    This might sound like a lame noobie questions, but i run opensuse 11.0 at home what is the best way to get 11.1 – how does one upgrade?

  21. don carlos

    hi
    i have some problems starting x server, i think the radeonhd driver doesn’t like my graphics card (ati x1800gto) or my monitor (samsung cw226) or whatever…anyway here are the error logs from Xorg.0.log:

    (EE) Radeonhd (0): RandR: No valid modes. Disabling RandR support.
    (EE) Radeonhd (0): Failed to detect a connected monitor.
    (EE) Radeonhd (0): Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration.

    i have these errors since opensuse 11.0

  22. gavinto

    Just tried the 11.1 LiveCD beta and have confirmed that wireless is at least working at this time. I was wondering what thoughts are going forward from now. If I do a Beta4 installation, will Delta ISOS be the recommended path forward through RC1, RC2 etc, or would it be best to do a clean install after full formal release? Just want to know so I can plan time & testing accordingly

  23. Dan Schreiber

    I love the SuSe Product. My only major serious complaint about Linux in general however is that WIFI support is and has been seriously lacking since the beginning.
    As aggressively as the Linux community tries to keep up with the state of the art, I find it troubling that it has NEVER taken WIFI support seriously. I would think that since the major competitor to linux, you know, “that pane in the glass” operating system runs about everything but the kitchen sink, the Linux folks would have made this a top priority. Can anyone tell me when the Atheros WIFI adapter support will be integrated into in the Linux kernel? They (the Arheros folks) have a section linux kernal integration section on their website but not being a major SW geek (all due respect) myself, my attempts at doing the integration myself have all crashed and burned.

  24. Al

    What is the IP to install 11.1 using NET.iso ?

  25. Robert

    The installation begins properly but when it is creating X config it stops. and freezes , and a black screen comes up no start x

    I had this problem with toshiba satellite x205 sli1 system , uses nvidia 3d card , I don’t remember the exact name at the moment but its a sli 1GB card in the laptop

    I was trying to use gnome iso of opensuse 11.1 beta4 of gnome cd iso version burned to dvd, and yes it runs fine on my desktop computer, but I do need to set the res to 1680 x 1050 , the beta tryies to use a higher res than my monitor supports , I think because it looks squesed up on my samsung 22″ monitor , native res is 1680 x 1050 only, no higher than that

    the desktop nvidia card is BFG geforce gtx 280 1GB card

    again I get the locking up on creating X config , I tryed the iso safe mode too it also locks up on the same thing on the laptop computer only, use the amd64 iso did not try the x86 one for the laptop but I would guess it would lock up on that one too I don’t no yet

  26. Robert

    also note that the 11.0 opensuse runs just fine on the toshiba satellite x205 sli1 system, as far as I remember , have not used that one for some time

  27. Robert

    and both systems run ubuntu 8.10 just fine without problems, but theirs just something I don’t like about ubuntu linux even thou I used it , and fedora redhat linux too , I don’t like how hard it is to install stuff on that one compared to ubuntu

  28. Robert

    any commands in the bootup disk that can disable creating X config and run it with vesa instead of nv buggy thing, at least I think that what is going on with the laptop, anyone got any ideas why it seems to lockup on toshiba satellite x205 sli1 laptop?