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Development Release: openSUSE 11.1 Beta 5 Now Available

November 13th, 2008 by

Greetings, openSUSE fans! We have another development release ready for your testing pleasure. openSUSE 11.1 beta 5 is now available for immediate download and testing.

You may have noticed that we were scheduled to release RC 1 today. However, as Stephan Kulow mentioned on openSUSE-Factory list on Tuesday, we have several blocker bugs and 11 P1 bugs still present. While we’re ready to do another release today, we decided that it wasn’t ready to be called a release candidate. This shouldn’t push back the final release, but it will mean that we will only plan to have one release candidate.

With just a little more than a month before the public release on December 18th, there’s still plenty to do. So, roll up your sleeves and start downloading!

Call for Testing

We all want openSUSE 11.1 to be the best release yet, and we need your help to get there. This release is ready for widespread testing, and we’re encouraging everyone to download and test the beta releases.  Please run the release through your usual routine, and let us know about any bugs or other issues that you find. Remember that this is a beta release, and is not suitable for use on production systems. Though many openSUSE users can and do use the Factory distribution and/or beta release for day-to-day work we want to stress that it’s entirely possible that you will encounter serious bugs.

See openSUSE.org/Testing for more information on testing.

To follow the testing and development process, we suggest that you subscribe to the openSUSE-Factory mailing list, and join the #openSUSE-Factory channel on Freenode to discuss openSUSE development.

What’s changed since beta 4?

Major changes in this release include:

  • More 11.1 branding is now in place.
  • Upgrade to PackageKit 0.3.9
  • Integration of Smolt finished
  • More translations!
  • Linux kernel updated to 2.6.27.5
  • KDE 4.1.3
  • Xfce 4.4.3
  • Many updated packages, including: Amarok, Banshee, Blender, Digikam, Bazaar, Frozen Bubble, The GIMP, LyX, and Wine.

See the Factory News page for changes in the Factory distribution between release announcements. DistroWatch also carries an expanded list of packages being shipped in the Factory distribution.

OpenOffice.org 3.0 is shaping up nicely for 11.1. Petr Mladek has sent in the following new and remaining bugs for OpenOffice.org:

+ OOo does not start in KDE when OpenOffice_org-gnome is installed (bnc#442678)
+ Pyuno components are still not registered
+ Mono integration is not correctly installed
+ Localized strings are not updated from extra sources
+ The user configuration includes symlinks to /usr/share/ooo3 instead of real files. This may be a feature, but it might also cause problems in the future
+ Missing OOo-sdk compat stuff (bnc#428403)
+ Suse-puzzler.xls works only partly; e.h. “Sneaky Peak” or “About” works but the “Shuffle” does nothing. Also, you can’t move the puzzle pieces with a mouse.

These bugs are being worked on for RC1.

Media and Download

11.1 beta 5 can be found at http://software.opensuse.org/developer. You can find mirrors that have beta 5 images here:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-Beta5/iso/

This release does include PPC media, so users with PowerPC machines have the opportunity to test beta 5 on those as well.

Most Annoying Bugs

While many bugs have been eliminated since the last beta, we still have a few remaining (and new) bugs that testers should be aware of:

Selecting KDE 3.5 also installs KDE4 workspace and defaults to KDE4. Workaround: Choose KDE3 desktop at login manager.
Installation via network on Pegasos2 and Efika is not possible since the initial image does not contain the network drivers (they are available after installation)
Bug #439126: Hibernation does not work with 32-bit PAE kernels.
Bug #432980: On some Intel chipsets (945GM) display can’t wake from sleep.
Bug #444127: kupdateapplet shows error when license is requested
Bug #437735: printers are not installed
Bug #444519: the i586 DVD does not contain any i686 glibc

Future Release Announcements

Note to openSUSE contributors: If you have any changes or features to call out for future release announcements, please send an email to Zonker with any information that should be in that announcement. (Preferably at least two days before the scheduled release.

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54 Responses to “Development Release: openSUSE 11.1 Beta 5 Now Available”

  1. Karl

    Very nice! Downloding it via Bittorrent right now. Can’t wait to test it!
    The only problem I had in Beta 4 was that I could not get any higher resolution then 1024×768 (KDE) in VirtualBOX when Testing it. I don’t know why. If this is a bug in OpenSUSE or VirtualBOX. I don’t know.

  2. JSR

    I use the Beta 4 now … It is necessary to download the ISO image or can upgrade from the RED through YaST2?

    • Andreas Jaeger

      You can update with “zypper dup”, or download the delta ISO of the DVD, apply it to the previous DVD and run an update.

      • Bobby

        That’s what I did, use zypper dup for the update from Beta 4 to 5. It’s really cool and went even faster than downloading the DVD. This is really fun guys.

        I would really like to say a big thanks to the openSuse crew for the wonderful job that they are doing and for being so ultra punctual today :)
        I can’t wait to see what the final versio will be like. In any case I am looking forward to seeing it on the #1 spot of DistroWatch.

  3. David

    I hope the Network plasmoid will be in shape for 11.1 final. Can’t wait. ;)

    • Grzegorz Kossakowski

      Agreed. With current Network plasmoid I couldn’t even figure out how to connect to my wireless network.

      On the other hand, the whole thing looks promising.

      • Szilágyi Péter

        The network plasmoid actually manages to kill my whole plasmoid workspace… if I remove it the whole system runs smoothly… but if I place it back… it’s just a matter of time (2-10 mins) until the whole thing comes crashing down… ofcourse all my plasmoid setup gets ruined so I can start configuring everything from scratch.

        Besides that, I find this release a real improvement over opensuse 11.0 considering the KDE 4. Still a bit buggy, but it actually starts getting usable. Keep up the good work.

  4. Stan

    Thank you for amazing job you are doing. I can’t wait for final release.

  5. gavinto

    I seems to me that beta 5 got more issues then beta 4. At lest in Virtual Box with KDE.

  6. matt

    WIll there be any chance of upgrading from beta 5 – RC1 – GM? Thanks.

    • damada

      Just read A.J.’s comment to the first similar question: openSUSE now features a very mature CLT tool for distribution upgrades. Just make sure you have the corresponding repositories for either the devel snapshots (http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/) or the final releases (http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/) and then run a “zypper dup”.

      • gavinto

        Feel abit daft (maybe its just too late) remind me how I ensure that the right repo is in my path. somehow I don’t think its set right for me cince when I run “zypper dup”, I don’t get a kernel update as I expected from the above discussion.

        btw is there 2 “gavinto’s” on thsi forum? I didn’t submit the post about Virtual Box….

        zypper lr
        # | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
        –+———————–+———————–+———+——–
        1 | editors | editors | Yes | Yes
        2 | home:prusnak | home:prusnak | Yes | Yes
        3 | mozilla:Factory | mozilla:Factory | Yes | Yes
        4 | openSUSE-11.1-Updates | Updates for 11.1 | Yes | Yes
        5 | openSUSE-dvd 11.1-0 | openSUSE-dvd 11.1-0 | Yes | No
        6 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | No | Yes
        7 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
        8 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes

      • Andrei

        @damada: Would you, please, list the full names of the corresponding repositories? Hope all I need is to add them with zypper sa … and then run zypper dup.Thank you upfront.

  7. ian

    do not run ‘zypper dup’ on 11.1 with repos from 11.0 or you’ll get your system screwed up ;)

  8. Anon

    Hi

    I’m trying to update the OpenSUSE beta to KDE 4.1.73 (yes I know this is unstable)

    but I keep getting dependency problems with a number of packages wanting KDEbase4-runtime 4.1.60

    The problem is the current 4.1.72 KDEbase4-runtime is up to 4.1.73-1.1

    So the dependcie problems are askinig for a runtime that is rather old. Is there anyway to get around this? The current packages needing this runtime are

    plasmoid-quickaccess
    powerdevil
    plasmoid-quicklauncher
    kwin
    skanlite
    knewsticker
    akonadi
    compiz

    • Beineri

      Delete those packages. Some are not built anymore, are dropped from KDE or renamed and should be obosleted, others don’t build against KDE 4.2 anymore.

  9. Ben

    beta 5 caused more issues for me then beta4

    OpenOffice does not open anything over SMB
    Compiz w/ Nomad patch is killing causing some kde apps to kill my xsession (krdc and ksnapshot for sure)

    Some other little things.. just grrrr.. hope they all get fixed prior RC1

    • Jarl E. Gjessing

      I too found the problem with compiz and kde :-( I had this problem in Beta 3 and 4 too, but did not report it until beta 5 :-( Hope it will be fixed, because other than that I think it looks as if this is going to be a really nice release.

  10. Thomas

    Short question: Will a bluetooth headset work with opensuse 11.1? The most annoying thing with 11.0 is IMHO the lack of a useful bluetooth support and that knetworkmanager only works under very specific conditions (knetworkmanager only works if you only use DHCP). The latter problem I solved by using scpm/sumf which works perfect for me. The only thing which could be better in sumf: When switching the profile, I do not need any windows, information and dialogboxes, when no changes are detected -> Just switch, don’t ask.

    But anyway: OpenSUSE 11.0 made me switch totally to linux. Windows is still available, but I do not use it more often than an hour a month. So I am looking forward to 11.1.

    Thomas

  11. petermcp

    Trying to set up a dual boot with XP on a clean disc. Windows goes on first and boots ok. 11.1 goes on next from installation DVD. At the end of the installation process, 11.1 runs ok but the first reboot after that fails with Grub error 18.No boot menu shows.

  12. rushman

    Hi
    Use the the beta 5 dvd update, it removes the old repos. When it boots up again you will need to enable the repos.in the list

    I have Updated 1 portable and the main computor no problems, running very sweetly.

    I think the best suse to date.

    jim

  13. MrViklund

    Looks to me like Beta 6 is needed before RC since there will be only 1 RC.

  14. gavinto

    I must be missing something.
    What is user name and password for live cd?

  15. William T. Trotter

    I’ve downloaded the x86_64 dvd iso and make a clean
    install. Got Nvidia-twinview working by downloading
    the *.sh file from Nvidia and building the kernel
    module. Got Flash 10 working by pulling in the
    Flash-plugin using Yast. Now … does anybody know
    how to get other multimedia things working, like
    dvd playback? I know that these things will be
    available concurrent with the final release of 11.1
    but some of us would like to be using these beta 5
    and the upcoming RC more or less as an everyday
    platform.

    Thanks for any pointers.

  16. prz

    Thank you! Atheros 5007 is still not working as it should.

    • gavinto

      I have an Atheros 5007 wireless on my laptop (actually Atheros 5007EG), and it appears to work fine. Can you just not connect to any network, or is it not able to be edited for configuration

  17. Miles Bradford

    I am going to wipe XP Pro off my laptop today and load openSuSE 11.1.5 beta.
    Can I just do the updates until the final release in December – and everything gets fixed as we go?
    I really hate it that Hotmail is blocking Firefox from allowing a user to write an e-mail.
    I am so done with Microsoft on my machines and Hotmail as a mail post.
    I have been using SuSE since 7.1 and I just tried and dumped Ubuntu 8.10 because after it loads nicely – at the least 60 percent of the programs are still broken and I feel guilty for even trying another distro when I use SuSE because it is the best.
    You can rely on SuSE not to lose your MBR files in a power outage also – unlike Ubuntu will do akin also to Mandriva’s weakness.
    but,….I need openSuSE 11 to be able to keep upgrading instead of having to reload each time.

    • Even though someone replied “OK” I would be careful. I experienced troubles in the first Betas using the Updates. Problems I experienced kept re-appearing. So I finally did a Full New Install and the problems went away. Also, I am running this new openSuSE 11.1 inside VMware. In Beta2 I loaded VMware Tools. I haven’t had to re-load it since. Updates, New Installs… when the system boots up the VMware tools is still there. Without executing the tools I am able to move my mouse outside the Window and copy from the Virtual Machine to an outside editor. (However, NOT during the installation. Mouse stays locked in the Virtual Machine.) Either they are including the VMware Tools (which became open source) or the ones I have installed keep getting copied over and executed at startup. Don’t know which yet.

      Also it was listed in the annoying bugs that Open Office did not start. It does in my copy of openSuSE Beta 5. At least in the KDE3 desktop. Haven’t tried KDE4 yet.

    • Bobby

      You can dual-boot XP and openSuse. Keep XP so that you don’t forget how to defrag or delete viruses ;) Yes I love openSuse too. I also tried the Buntus but not for long because I feel really at home with openSuse. the only other distro that I gave a real serious trial was PCLinuxOS. It’s a very solid, beautiful and easy to use Linux but I haven’t seen a KDE4 versoin as yet so I will stick to my Suse.
      The biggest problem that I had with openSuse in the past was with the package management but they had made great strides of improvement in that area. Still I think that Ubuntu does a better job at dealing with dependencies. If one could just install stuff without even realizing that there is something like dependencies then openSuse would be perfect.
      The big plus and the edge that openSuse has for me is YaST. YaST is simple great.

  18. Gerrit Jan

    I have two time’s installed beta5 x64, but the x server won’t start after 1 reboot.
    Try to install the nvidia driver, but still no xserver start.
    Use a NVidia GeForce 8500 GT.
    Think i wait till RC1.

  19. vm

    Some apps I use on a daily basis -

    kdiff3 , kdesvn and tora.

    I use linux at work exclusively ( and run windows apps like office in virtualbox XP). I find kdesvn very useful to browse trees/logs/history/diffs etc though I use svn cmd line for update operations.

    All these are available for KDE4/QT4 but suse factory still doesn’t have them. I am using them in mandriva 2009 and they are quite stable. I’d like to see opensuse 11.1 include the KDE4 version.

    Also kvpnc.

  20. Marius

    Quick question: where did the “DISPLAYMANAGER_XSERVER” option gone from /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager ?!

    thx!

  21. How to make openSUSE more stable and better?

    We all see that too many SIMILIAR applications make openSUSE too FAT and contains more bugs.
    What openSUSE needs are:
    1. Use only 1 Windows Manager: GNome or KDE, because both very close and including both make openSUSE very big in size, no focus, hard to documentation and contains many bugs
    2. Replace or enable YAST with web based configuration. Today, we need a web based configuration, such as create new email account, file manager, create new domain, etc.

    Hope this help openSUSE team more time and energy to develop a best OS.

  22. jeffro

    Well, I figure Beta 5 was about time for me to hop on the testing bandwagon, but I guess not. Tried booting it up in VirtualBox with lackluster results. Spiked my CPU usage to 100% (and stayed there), and it didn’t like my mouse. Keyboard worked fine, but no mouse (which, unfortunately, isn’t really a productive way to go with KDE 4).

    And I don’t think it’s a VirtualBox issue. Mandriva 2009 and Kubuntu 8.10 worked fine, with CPU usage spiking at ~50% on start up then settling right down.

    Maybe in a couple days I’ll get adventurous, dust off my old rig, and do a proper install on that. For now, though, guess I’m waiting until RC1.

    • MrViklund

      Exactly! Thanks!
      Just the same problems I have.

      Mandriva 2009 works perfect but the latest OpenSUSE 11.1 Beta 5 has some issues with KDE 4. I have reinstalled beta 5 like 6 times now with the same problems, more or less. I downloaded beta 4 again yesterday. Installed it in VirtualBOX next to beta 5 and I don’t have the problems with it except that I can’t go to a higher resolution then 1024×768. Beta 5 seems to have allot of problems. I think we need a Beta 6 before the RC.

    • Pete

      I had an issue with Virtualbox 2.0.4 on my XP machine would not allow the XConfig autodetect to detect the mouse pointer. From the XDM login screen I chose to log into the console, ran sax2-vesa, changed the mouse from ‘virtualbox mouse’ to ‘auto’. Then ran ‘/etc/init.d/xdm restart’ and the mouse worked fine. This was just an issue when run through Virtualbox, the Live edition worked fine on the physical machine.

  23. Martin Kaeser

    I think Beta 5 is just a beta, as the upgrade from beta 4 didn’t work for me (problem with check sum and so) and also zypper dup: Problem: nichts bietet libboost_signals-mt.so benötigt von libzypp-5.11.0-3.i586 (…) and so on. (That’s rather a bad German).

  24. RGB

    openSUSE 11.1 is taking shape! There is a bug, though, that it is a real “show stopper” for me:
    NetworkManager: Mobile Broadband Connection Doesn’t Work Properly
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435675
    It is not among the “Most annoying bugs” even if it was reported for beta 2.
    My only internet connection is through an usb 3G modem!!
    I hope this will be solved soon… openSUSE is my favourite distro, but I need to use this kind of internet connections.

  25. Vince

    I just installed Beta 5. I have an ATI 34xx HD video card. I can not chance or install the video drivers. I have a 21″ flat panel that prefers 1680×1050 but the screen seems to be stuck at 1400×1050 with an unknown display. Under “graphics card and monitor” setup, my hardware and monitor are correctly listed as well as the correct resolution for the display.

    I have installed the lastest ATI drivers from the ATI website, and they seem to install without any error. Expect that when i try to start the ATI setup program it tells me that either i do not have the correct hardware installed or that my driver failed to install correctly.

    Anyone have any ideas? Help would be greatly appriciated!

    thanks

  26. gavinto

    Could someone please post how to setup zypper (i.e. command line listing) to use the correct repositories for upgrading from beta 4 to beta 5 (and in the future to RCx)?

    Looks like myself and at least one other person who would like to test beta hasn’t been successful and doesn’t want to do a complete re-install with each incremental release of 11.1.

    Cheers!

  27. Daniel

    Actually when I install suse, after the installation process i cannot see anything, so i cannot use it… i have a toshiba m300, mobility readeon 254mb and 2.4ghz of cpu…
    what it could be the problem?

    thanks

  28. Granier

    Hi,
    i have a problem of keyboard with beta 5
    the installation seems to be ok and i can use the keyboard during the installation but when i log my keyboard doesn’t work any m

  29. FreeTDS with support compiled into PHP, please? It’s not a big package!

  30. krushna

    All video player with codecs (like codeine,xine) should be present inside the media as givern by mandriva 2009.So that it can be used as a best desktop operating system with out using internet.If codecs are present in media, suse linux will be the best operating system in the world as far as stability is concerned

  31. Small question.
    Why does no one put this on the news net under Alt.Binaries
    That way everyone would have a fast path to it.
    The Bit thing stinks spent 2 days getting 60%. Hell I can download fron news (UUCP) at 900KB.
    Can someone please put the 64 bit version up there. At this rate I’ll be here waiting when the RC is released.
    Giganews or any of them can do this.
    Ubuntu works with one of them..

    Have some mercy. Post this broken into rars with some pars on the news net.

    Thank You.

  32. gustavodiazjaimes

    Estoy realmente contento con OpenSuse 11.1 beta5, Muchas Gracias!!
    agrege el paquete phone-backport-xine para el soporte de mp3 de Amarok2 e instale el repositorio de VirtualBox ya que existia un conflicto de permisos, de resto todo es como queria (bueno, faltaba Wesnoth). Mesa reconocio lo suficiente para agregar los efectos de escritorio de kde 4.1 con mi ati-radeon200 (:D) sin el problema de el doble proceso xorg que ponia tan lento mi pc!!!.
    En pocas palabras, ESPECTACULAR!!.

  33. Dich

    I’ve tried the latest beta (5.2 from factory liveCDs), and I must admit it’s very impressive. A lot of major and minor improvements make it a very usable distro. KDE4 still lacks some of the functionality of old-good kde3, but that’s being actively worked upon, obviously.
    I was wondering if we users can somehow support Novell/openSuSE by providing CPU power for the final builds. Like if there’s a virtual environment which one can download and run, which would then connect to the central server (like all these S.E.T.I. or einstein software was doing), get the next package to build, compile it and send back to server. I think most of the necessary components are available for such a trick. That will make openSuSE a really COMMUNITY distro ;-)

  34. Jim O.

    Your list of “Most Annoying Bugs” disturbs me. I would say that the most annoying bug in Beta 5 is the “touchpad” bug (aka the “gsynaptics” bug) that has been in OpenSuSE 10.3 (64-bit), OpenSuSE 11.0 (both 32-bit and 64-bit) and is still in 11.1 Beta 5 (I have confirmed it in 32-bit and expect that it is still in 64-bit). The only reason I have not opened a new Bug Report is because we are not supposed to do so. It would be labeled a “duplicate” and closed. So are you now saying that you are going to ignore pre-existing bugs and we have to open new bugs to get them corrected? If that is the way you want to wor I can do that, but you should make up your minds about these procedures.

  35. Dich

    hey folks, go ahead, announce the RC1 ! It’s already on the download, why keep it silent? :) gonna try this out now!

  36. R. J.

    No I don’t think there is, if you are wanting it to do an install, your best option would most likely be a network install.

    Go to http://software.opensuse.org/

    select network install, download the mini cd, and that will allow you to boot into the yast install, and select the pacakges (XFCE) that you wwant to install.