Development Release: openSUSE 11.1 RC 1 Now Available

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Thursday, November 27th, 2008 by Joe Brockmeier Digg!

The openSUSE Project is happy to announce that openSUSE 11.1 RC 1 is now available. If all goes well, this will be the last testing release before the final 11.1 public release on December 18th.

This release includes a number of bugfixes and changes since 11.1 beta 5, as well as a new license.

Digg it! http://digg.com/linux_unix/Development_Release_openSUSE_11_1_RC_1_Now_Available

Call for Testing

We all want openSUSE 11.1 to be the best release yet, and we need your help to get there. This release is ready for widespread testing, and we’re encouraging everyone to download and work with the testing releases to find any critical bugs before release. Please run the release through your usual routine, and let us know about any bugs or other issues that you find.

Remember that this is a release candidate, and is not suitable for use on production systems, however. Though many openSUSE users can and do use the Factory distribution and/or testing releases for day-to-day work we want to stress that it’s entirely possible that you will encounter serious bugs.

See openSUSE.org/Testing for more information on Testing.

To follow the testing and development process, we suggest that you subscribe to the openSUSE-Factory mailing list, and join the #openSUSE-Factory channel on Freenode to discuss openSUSE development.

What’s changed since beta 5?

Major changes in this release include:

* A new, shorter distro license
* Linux kernel 2.6.27.7
* glibc 2.9
* Additional translations
* Amarok 2.0 RC 1
* Zypper 1.0.1

See the Factory News page for changes in the Factory distribution between release announcements. DistroWatch also carries an expanded list of packages being shipped in the Factory distribution.

Media and Download

11.1 RC 1 can be found at http://software.opensuse.org/developer. See http://en.opensuse.org/Mirror_Selection for a full list of mirrors. Note that you don’t need to choose a mirror yourself, but you can use the mirror list if you want or need to select a mirror manually.

Most Annoying Bugs

While many bugs have been eliminated since the last beta, we still have a few remaining (and new) bugs that testers should be aware of:

Bug 448270: the license has no translations yet
Bug 449711: no OpenOffice for ppc
Bug 449422: Amarok2 on KDE4 does not stop
Bug 449513: Novell vpn doesn’t work at novell-ipsec-tools 0.7.1.

Future Release Announcements

Note to openSUSE contributors: If you have any changes or features to call out for future release announcements, please send an email to Zonker with any information that should be in that announcement. (Preferably at least two days before the scheduled release.


106 Comments

Comment by MrViklund
2008-11-27 15:52:59

Downloading.
I hope this RC works well and that the 11.1 Release really becomes the best release ever.

 
Comment by Bobby
2008-11-27 16:18:09

Well done guys and this time you are as punctual as a Swiss watch. I am at it already with zypper dup. I will share the results with you later.

 
Comment by Colin
2008-11-27 18:47:56

Great news that the RC has eliminated most of the bugs (although your bug for “Amarok2 on KDE4 does not stop” should be 442175, not 449422). The earlier betas proved too buggy for my laptop, e.g. Beta 5 would not store my wireless WPA password, rendering wireless unusable. If that’s been fixed, then I’ll upgrade now rather than wait for the GM, as 11.0 doesn’t work with my wireless chipset at all.

I’m guessing that nvidia drivers will need to be installed manually? And will the non-free codecs and java that are already installed be removed in the upgrade?

Comment by Andrei
2008-11-28 19:04:34

Colin,

Did you manage to install the nVidia drivers, please? How?

The install app from nVidia does not work for me. And if I want to go manually, cannot find the according kernel-source (2.6.27.7-8-default).

Thanks,
Andrei

Comment by Colin
2008-12-01 10:39:57

Hi sorry for late reply.

I didn’t install the RC on my laptop as it took a while to download via torrent. I’m glad I didn’t as it seems (from messages below) that the wrong kernel source was on the repos, and so the nvidia driver could not be installed.

With that and the external drive ntfs bug, it seems this RC is still more like a beta. Beta 5 was a disaster – who’s bright idea was it to change the KDE network manager at such a late stage? It meant that anyone like me who had problems with it could not test Beta 5 on a laptop, and now the RC also feels underprepared.

10.3 and 11.0 were both great releases, but I fear Opensuse could loose some fans by releasing too early, unless a LOT of work is done in the few days left before the GM goes to the mirrors.

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Comment by ethana2
2008-11-30 19:36:27

That bug and its variants are everywhere. I can’t connect to any secure networks in any linux based OS I’ve ever seen; it just discards the password I give it and replaces it with random garbage and tries to connect with that instead. If SuSE fixes that bug before Ubuntu does, it’s worth switching for.

Comment by Igor Alexandrov
2008-12-11 17:44:03

In my OpenSuse 11 wireless works perfect. I can connect to every secure network. I have Broadcom wireless card.

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Comment by Will Stephenson
2008-11-27 20:17:53

I should point out that Amarok2 RC1 is not the default media player; it’s not finished and is only shipped as a preview. Amarok 1.4.10 will be the default since we all think reliable music management is essential.

Comment by Matthew Baron
2008-11-30 19:02:56

Do you, or anyone know if Amarok 2.0 will ship with the final? or will we have to watch the repos to download the final Amarok 2.0?

 
 
Comment by Jens Uhlenbrock
2008-11-27 20:37:12

I’m trying to tell Ktorrent to also use a webseed, but it’s not working. It will give back an error message for the following urls:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-RC1-DVD-i586.iso
http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-RC1-DVD-i586.iso

Error. Request failed. Not found.

What am I doing wrong??

 
Comment by Anonymous
2008-11-27 20:50:29

I would welcome a release that actually “works” for a change. Every previous release had dependencies on packages that could not be provided which is incredibly irritating. A good example is KDE4 – if you have an nVidiacard it’s bloody hard work. Having said that, going back to 3.5 gives at least more usable software..

 
Comment by Anonymous
2008-11-27 21:39:26

Looks like you have a problem with the Wiki engine or with the session management. I’m posting as Jens by default too.

Thanks for the RC. Downloading now, just enough time to test it, in hope that I can make the GM my main system.

Comment by R. J.
2008-11-28 00:42:18

you’re all long lost relatives, lol

 
 
Comment by Shawn
2008-11-27 22:07:47

I find it a little “Debian-esque” that 11.1 will be the last build to support KDE 3.5, but rather than dealing with bugs in the still-fairly-fresh KDE4, there are plans to use KDE 3 programs rather than the “latest and greatest”.

Come on guys. Admit that KDE4 still isn’t ready, yet.

Comment by Andreas Jaeger
2008-11-28 07:09:25

If there are applications that are not ported to KDE4 or that are just too immature, then we use already in 11.1 the KDE3.5 version, e.g. we’ll use the KDE3 amarok. I assume this will happen with 11.2 as well – but those are single applications and not the complete desktop.

 
 
Comment by PC Mann
2008-11-28 00:01:56

Been using KDE 4 since April (4.0 on Ubuntu), now on 4.1 – it’s good enough.

Not only that, it’s the only Linux desktop good enough looking to lure many away from the temptation of Vista.

Using openSUSE 11.0/KDE 4.0 on my laptop, and works for me. Looking forward to 11.1.

 
Comment by BenderBendingRodriguez
2008-11-28 01:07:33

I agree, I prefer using 1.4 (I like it more than 2.0 by the way hehe). And such bug is a real blocker as not everyone would know that he has to change the backend to xine.

 
Comment by Gerrit Jan
2008-11-28 07:09:45

Looking good, but on the x64 that i installed some problems.
At this time only working with root, i did not get the dutch translation.
Also the onboard soundcard gave a error (asus m2a-vm motherboard,ALC883 High Definition Audio 6-channel CODEC ).
The kernel-source needs to be update to latest version, so i can install the NVIDIA driver.
When closing down YOU i have a “broken pipe” error.

 
Comment by Miha
2008-11-28 10:30:16

Hi All,

Does zypper support broken downloads resume now? It very annoying when it starts downloading file from beginning after break.

Comment by Stano
2008-11-28 11:23:19

No, it does not for 11.1.

 
 
Comment by DummyXL
2008-11-28 10:56:15

| Looking good, but on the x64 that i installed some problems.
I was planning to say exactly the same as you did ;)

| At this time only working with root, i did not get the dutch translation.
Don’t have this.

| Also the onboard soundcard gave a error (asus m2a-vm motherboard,ALC883 High Definition Audio 6-channel CODEC ).
I have the same problem on KDE4, phonon give a popup error. I have a P5Q mainboard from Asus with the same audio chip.

| The kernel-source needs to be update to latest version, so i can install the NVIDIA driver.
Yep same here, I can install Nvidia and see the splash screen but than fails to load, KDE use NV again.

| When closing down YOU i have a “broken pipe” error.
I don’t have seen this I think.

PS. I hope to see extra mouse button support by default, I have a logitech 620 mouse and the back/forward and zoom buttons don’t work, on Ubuntu and vista it works out of the box.

Comment by Dich
2008-11-28 11:10:51

DummyXL you might consider changing your “quote” symbol, it’s often very confusing (with default fonts) when the first line starts with “|” (pipe) and the second with “I” ;-) (sorry for the offtopic)

Comment by Chris
2008-11-29 12:13:05

i agree.

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Comment by tithrion
2008-11-28 11:50:48

Hi

Installer problem:

I installed RC1 via NET-i586.iso. I had to use a http-proxy with authentication.
After providing linuxrc with the correct username:password@proxy:port it loaded the yast installation system at first.
However after being in yast (install) it failed to load the repo. It helped to switch to console before yast-install and edit the /etc/sysconfig/proxy to reflect the proxy-settings. It seems the proxy settings are “forgotten”. After that I had to retry the first errormessage, using the “proxyless” download-urls (default) wich worked with the sysconfig settings…

=> Not unusable but for sure not the expected behaviour.

 
Comment by Carlo Strata
2008-11-28 12:12:09

Hi OpenSuSE Team!!!

I’m updating my 11.1 beta 4 system to rc1…

I advise you to update memtest86+ from 2.01 version to the new 2.10.
This new releases correct many annoying bugs like test freeze on dual channel quad banks (and more?) AMD memory systems (tested and verified with memtest86+ 2.01 (OpenSuSE) vs. 2.10 ISO image).

All available MemTest86+ 2.10 changes here.

I’m also writing an email to Zonker as suggested above.

Very good work!

Carlo

 
Comment by John Thomas
2008-11-28 14:56:42

Can’t wait to download it… But what is really going to be cool is the final version… that one is going to rock!

 
Comment by SteveM
2008-11-28 15:08:51

I tested both x86_64 and i586 distro’s on a brand spankin new dg45fc motherboard from Intel, at beta5, my video now works, sound doesn’t yet – but I’ll be looking at RC1 closely and will provide feedback.

Thanks everyone for all the hard work, it’s looking really good so far.

 
Comment by Felipe Alvarez
2008-11-28 19:03:04

BETA 5 was not able to correctly identify my laptop’s 1680 x 1050 resolution. Yast/Sax also did not have an option to increase it above 1280 x XXXX . Has this been corrected in RC 1?

 
Comment by Dich
2008-11-28 19:16:09

Anyone got *detailed* instructions on how to perform a distro upgrade (e.g. zypper dup) ? Which repositories need to be removed/disabled, which added? I would actually suggest that this becomes part of the announcement, at least as a “link to instructions”.

Thanks!

(I gave “five” as a spam protection answer to “Sum of two+three” and it was rejected! too bad ;-)

 
Comment by jester
2008-11-28 19:40:55

anyone try this release with usb-audio ?

 
Comment by don carlos
2008-11-28 20:04:21

about that “amarok2 – doesn’t stop bug”:
It works (gstreamer and xine backend), if you deactivate the fadeout option.

 
Comment by Dum
2008-11-28 21:20:34

I’ m testing it now and, its ok but I have 2 problems.
1) my pc has no sound on the speakers the headset workt well, after unplugging the headset no sound but after plugging it in again both are working (strange behavior) :(
Yast say i have a 82801ji (ich10 family) HD Audio Contraller (hda-intel)
I have a asus P5Q de luxe mainboard and realtek audio chip on board (i think it’s an 883)

2) How to activate Compiz on KDE3? I have activate nvidia composit but compiz-icon will not start (only a bouncing cursor) And CCSM also does nothing.
Do I miss something here?

beside that rc1 runs better that beta5 did.

Comment by rens
2008-12-03 00:01:31

hi
i had similar problems with ich9

in /etc/modprobe.d
there is a file called ’sound’
looks like this:
_________________
options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 probe_mask=1 model=lenovo-ms7195-dig
# options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
# u1Nb.R7+6gEXh9fB:82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
________________________

the option probe_mask=1 ( or 2 or 4 or 8, it is a bit mask )
stops the snd-hda-intel from probing more than one card ( my ich9 is a alc883 + an alc268 )
and made the sound work.
the model= was necessary to make the plug/unplug headphone switch off / on the main speakers.
you should begin with probe_mask=1 only to see what happens.
no need to reboot:
unload your kmixer, rmmod snd_hda_intel, then modprobe snd-hda-intel

(note the underscores in “snd_hda_intel” are for unloading (rmmod), the hyphens in “snd-hda-intel” are for modprobing (loading) the module !!!!)

g/l
RG

 
 
Comment by Luca
2008-11-28 21:21:17

I downloaded the OpenSuse 11.1 RC1 Gnome LiveCD but I couldn’t get it to install.
In fact when the installer creates the new partitions at the beginning of the actual installation process, they are mounted auotmatically and immediately by the system, so the installer obviously cannot proceed formatting a partition which is currently mounted and the installation process is aborted automatically.
Am I the only one who got this issue/bug?

 
Comment by don carlos
2008-11-28 22:06:46

well…the most annoying bugs (for me) are e.g. (in KDE4) that some applications (kate, terminal, konqueror) don’t remember the size or when my monitor switches off an on, every now and then. This sucks, especially when you typing something :) . I have an ati X1800 with hdradeon driver. I didn’t have that problem with radeon driver.

Another thing i noticed (in beta 5, didn’t test it with rc1 yet), is that X server went up to 100% cpu usage. It happened twice. No kde applications were running and the monitor was switched off. I was logged on over ssh when i noticed that.

 
Comment by motyR
2008-11-28 22:09:40

well common tell us which repos do we need to use, 11.1 rc1, 11.1, factory????????

why does it have to be so confusing? whats the big deal? just let us know which repo do we need to subscribe???

seriously guys are u doing it on purpose? i cannot figure why would u want to announce new version without giving the sufficient info.

u must be out of your mind!!!

out of here…

Comment by don carlos
2008-11-28 22:21:23

since this is 11.1 RC1, i would say this one: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/repo/oss/

 
Comment by Velocity
2008-12-04 04:46:04

It is not a new version yet. It is still in ending stages for the upcomming new version. this is a Release canidate. Please have patience, the new repo lists will be comming as soon as a gm (GoldMaster) release is complete, or possibly until public release short;y after.

 
 
Comment by Peter Delf
2008-11-29 01:47:04

As I write this from my freshly installed OpenSUSE 11.1 RC 1 box I am very impressed. I installed using the KDE4 Live CD. A huge improvement on 11.0, which actually sent me back to Windows.

 
Comment by Rodrigo
2008-11-29 02:16:50

Thanks everybody for all!!!

 
Comment by Cristian Kleuser
2008-11-29 03:08:37

Hi, I don’t know where to post, so it just be here, I hope a get any tips on this…
I had downloaded the x64 11.1 RC1 version, and I’ve got an weird behaviour on my system, my LCD screen are attached throught the DVI port on my ATI 4870×2 vga card, and I just get the boot logo showing it’s progress botting from the CD, but when it attempts to enter on X, then I get BLACK screen, but the system is there, because I tried Ctrl-Alt-F1 for a terminal, typed “reboot” and my system came to a reboot, but no screen at all, and EVEN weird, after the reboot or HARD rebooting the system, I loose completely my screen, even for posting the BIOS or other installed OS, then I have to unplug from the wall my whole system, and turn it on again to work the other things….

Any ideas??? and YES, I’ve tried the safe-mode without sucess :(

 
Comment by Avicena
2008-11-29 08:26:54

Still have problems with USB ports, when using a pen-drive the system recognizes, but can not display the files. Both the KDE4 version of SuSE 11.1 beta-5 as in RC1, because the final version of openSUSE 11.0 this flaw does not occur.
I am testing on a laptop Compal HEL-81 (32bit) or in a desktop PC Intel Core2 (64bits), and both have the following message:
“An error occurred while ‘Senac-1′, the system responded:” org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: ALL: have to rethink extra options ”
It appears that these two latest “beta” this flaw has not been corrected.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2008-11-29 08:55:15

All versions from beta1 to rc1 have bugs…but there’re some very VERY annoying like Mounting USB drives with NTFS filesystem in kde4 – “Have to rethink extra options” error message in Dolphin….damn HAL and KDE…so many posts and bug reports and nothing to do with it?…What’s the problem? I hate going to the Konsole and doing things like mounting. These things are to be very user-friendly etc. BTW Mandriva fixed that bug! What you are waiting for?

Comment by Anonymous
2008-11-29 09:02:36
 
 
Comment by mark
2008-11-29 11:34:27

Hope the new version fixes some of the dramatic errors I get with 11.0 e.g
When connecting USB perpheals via a USB hub you get:
1.External USB Freecom harddrive loses directories crashes konqueror and open office and slows evrything down or freezes suse altogether
2.For even more spectacular surprises try using the Freecom external hard drive with a space in the volume name eg CLASSIC SL
3.Printer (standard HP4200 deskjet) works some days when it feels like it, other days not at all.
Introducing lots of extra cables to bypass the hub gets rid of most of the problems as far as I can see. (never seen any problems under windows)

Expensive 8600 GTS Nvidia card only works at 800*600. No 3D.

Hopefully the painfull and time consuming experience of tring to get your internet connection working with a ISDN USB Fritcard under 10.1-10.3 kernels will not be repeated in 11.1

One of the problems with linux, that keeps it from appealing to the masses, is the incomplete error reporting. If linux does not support ISDN or USB hubs can it not just bring up an error message when you try and connect it rather than the user spend hours fiddling with configuration tools that show the device apparently present and correct.

Sounds a bit negative but I would like linux to get over its instabilities and succeed.

 
Comment by petermcp
2008-11-29 12:16:28

My new 500 GB disc allows me to:

a) install and run Windows XP on its own
b) install and run openSuse 11.1 RC1 on its own
c) install XP/RC1 dual boot.

BUT option c) will not boot into either partition – the boot menu doesn’t appear. Any ideas?

 
Comment by Becky
2008-11-29 12:50:26

Ok – I’ve downloaded the RC1 – and I’ve run it up on my test system.

There’s a problem with it – that I’ve seen on all the other versions of 11.1 – which is that the screen display is unstable. It blinks with a period of several seconds and it doesn’t matter if it’s live or installed. The hardware is a SiS integrated motherboard which works perfectly under OpenSUSE 11.0, so I’m confused as to what has happened here. I’d have figured that the video drivers wouldn’t have changed much – if at all – so has anyone out there got any ideas on what’s causing the problem and how it can be fixed?

I want the GM of 11.1 to be usable – but as I use linux for my business, unless it’s fixable, I’m going to have to stay with 11.0 or switch to another distro (which is one of my least popular alternatives as OpenSUSE is probably the most configurable of the lot!).

Please advise…..

‘Desperate of Hampshire’….

Comment by Anonymous
2008-11-29 14:28:31

you know I had the same issue with a motherboard based on a SiS chipset with SiS integrated graphics card. I’m losing the screen for a second only in kde4 when moving the cursor a little bit around or doing some activity. When the desktop is idle – the screen doesn’t blink. MAy be it’s a bug?

Comment by Becky
2008-11-29 16:47:04

Raises the question as to where the bug is. I can’t believe that there’s only two of us having this problem on SiS integrated boards. If it’s somehow tied into the mouse driver, I’m stuffed as I have all my machines on a KVM switch.

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Comment by Becky
2008-11-29 12:59:55

Addendum – it’s a SiS Sis 660 according to Sax2 – and I can’t seen anything else that would be useful…

 
Comment by Anonymous
2008-11-29 17:28:01

I just tested RC1, and it was a very smooth experience. 11.1 will be a great release (and finally have a KDE4 that can be used for daily work).

 
Comment by MrViklund
2008-11-29 17:37:55

Very nice release!
KDE 4 works perfect in VirtualBox now. But there is a problem. After updating the system it told me to log out and in again. I restarted the system and now the screen is black and won’t start up…

 
Comment by anubisg1
2008-11-29 21:18:57

i really don’t like that rc1, very very buggy.. i hope will be fixed soon or i’m afraid i’ll continue to use 11.0

Comment by R. J.
2008-11-30 02:27:32

I’ve actually had no problems with RC1, perhaps if you are experiencing bugs you could file a bug report for them, and visit the forum, maybe they can help you

 
Comment by lucmove
2008-11-30 05:42:10

anubisg1, that kind of comment is useless, “very buggy” doesn’t mean anything. Please be specific and describe each bug in detail so hopefully those bugs get ironed out in the next release.

Comment by Anubisg1
2008-11-30 09:56:53

[quote]Please be specific and describe each bug in detail so hopefully those bugs get ironed out in the next release.[/quote]

that is exactly what i’m doing…

importance order.. from the most important to the less.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450268

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450219

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450187

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=449995

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Comment by lucmove
2008-11-30 15:56:23

Then I am very close to giving up on openSuse. You say that “the desktop should as clean as possible” and Stephan Kulow asks “why”???!!! What kind of rude reply was that?!

 
 
 
Comment by SenaCE
2008-12-03 00:16:16

I fully agree with, many “bugs” the RC.1, also still using the original version (11.0). I hope the final scheduled for November 15, correct all the flaws, or at least part of them …

SenaCE

 
 
Comment by Kabel
2008-11-30 05:52:46

I just want to mention the famous bug “flash player always on top” in firefox.Fedora 10 do not suffer from this disease anymore, neither Ubuntu 8.10. Is there a fix on the way? For me is this is show-stopper.

 
Comment by Dich
2008-11-30 12:03:27

I’ve downloaded the RC1 dvd image, disabled all other repositories in my 11.0, did “zypper dup”, which installed about 100MB some packages, and retbooted. After reboot the system won’t let me log in with a message “Unknown module” – obviously PAM-related. The branding is still the old one, e.g. 11.0, not 11.1 . Have to go with fresh install obviously. Might be nice if the upgrade possibilities would be better polished, and better documented as well.

 
Comment by Frans de Boer
2008-11-30 13:43:29

Hello, I have not found an address to post my bug-report, so I use this list.

One of my computers is an old Pentium-mmx (mobile) with 128MB of RAM (Dell Latitude CP233). While installing 11.0 the question was raised which part of the HD should be used for swap. Now, with 11.1RC1 (and beta’s before) this question is not asked. After downloading the Installation System (2/6) the system crashes, flashing the keyboard lights. I used in both cases the NET.i586.iso image. Maybe not using a swap space is unrelated, in which case the system crashes for some unknown reason.

Comment by lucmove
2008-11-30 15:58:45

Have you checked the integrity of your installation media? The first time I tried openSuse (11.0), I had problems similar to yours. Cutting a long story short, I ended up burning a new DVD and the installation worked fine.

 
Comment by Richard
2008-12-31 16:28:13

I am having the same problem. An old Gateway Solo 3350, Pentium III with 512kb memory, and I get to the “Loading Installation System (2/6) (1 kB) – 100%_” and it freezes and flashes the keyboard lights at me. I ran the checksums and all came out clear, and I’m still having the problem.

 
Comment by Bill Fleury
2009-01-01 08:53:58

The installer requires a minimum of 256mb ram, otherwise it has a kernel panic. You can verify this is it by pressing ctrl-alt-f4 and leaving it on that screen until it crashes.

 
 
Comment by Pablo
2008-11-30 15:51:55

I’m new to openSUSE, some bugs from my 11.1 RC1 LiveCD KDE4 32bit testing:
- some graphics glitches (missing panel’s bottom part) in other themes than Aya (I’m always using Oxygen)
- known bug with mounting NTFS patritions (TODO: have to rethink extra options)
- networkmanager can’t see my connection (but net is working (cable conn to my adsl router with dhcp))
- “Show the Plasma Dashboard” doesn’t work
- some old packages in repositories (Netbeans 6.0 – we have 6.5 now)
- [?] icons in menu (for example in utilities/desktop)
- Yast2/Software management is very slow (for example OSS repository freeze this app for some time)
- KRecord sometimes crashes when showing “About KRecord” or “About KDE”

Maybe after installing to HDD it is better than from LiveCD, but before NTFS partitions mounting is sorted out I’ll wait with install. I’m looking forward to final version.

My PC: Opteron144, 1GB ram, NVidia 6800GS, PATA+SATA HDD

Comment by Anonymous
2008-12-01 07:37:48

- known bug with mounting NTFS patritions (TODO: have to rethink extra options)

you know, looks like it got fixed…I saw some info in the bugzilla.novell.com last night. Try searching “ntfs hal” there

 
 
Comment by sofie
2008-11-30 19:16:42

Wow. This is great. I think i sticked to long to Ubuntu. Openususe is so much more professional, so mature, so stable. And KDE wonderful. It is the nicest thing I’ve ever seen on a laptop. It is almost as nice as OSX. Thanks. Sofie

 
Comment by dirk
2008-12-01 11:54:57

Great release, shurly it will be the best release ever.
Only one thing, the kernel and kernel-source package for the 2.6.6.27-8 is out of sync.
Or are there other repos to find the corresponding kernel-source?
Thank a lot
Dirk

 
Comment by Omaha
2008-12-01 12:52:53

OpenSuse 11.1 RC 32bit is running well on T61 – incorrect lcd settings though. Nvidia 180.08 BETA compiles and works with NVS 140 – the lagging in Nautilus and so on is gone. KDE 4.2 BETA from unstable works well using KDE 3 Networkmanager. Being a bit conservative with plasmoids is a pre.

Improvement of Yast Partitioning is positive but “not yet quite there”. Personally I wouldn’t mind a complete KDE 4 GUI of Yast – but understands why not….

The combo OpenSuse 11.1 and KDE 4.2 due end january will become extremely hard to compete with – try skulptur theme (webpin or repo) for improved configuration of themes in 4.2.

 
Comment by Nikesh
2008-12-01 12:55:35

I just downloaded it and at first impression it looks really awesome :) specially KDE 4.1.3

1) Installation went fine without any problem as usual
2) Default desktop looks good but there are even more beautiful theme available
3) Dolphin works superb

overall I don’t see any issue with this release, Great job Guys !!!

Comment by Richie
2008-12-01 17:20:05

what’s your hardware, plz?)
X3100?

 
 
Comment by Reza
2008-12-01 21:16:41

In The Name Of God
Thanks alot for your os.
I love it.I Want To Programing in it By c++
but I cant.
……………..

 
Comment by shrek
2008-12-01 21:32:53

I tried to install rc1 on a dual boot system and I have the same problem as above. The computer starts, then goes to a blank screen. This is on a HP dv9210us laptop. 11.0 worked perfectly. I am assuming that the problem lies with the NTFS read bug.

Shrek

 
Comment by Bharat
2008-12-01 22:55:58

When upgrading to newer releases like moving from beta5 to RC1 by doing “zypper dup”, is there a way to point to delta rpm repos instead of full rpm repos? Also maintaining a factory repo with delta rpms and base rpms IMO is a good idea. It will reduce the download size if newer versions of packages are available in the factory. Expanding this delta rpm concept from just ‘updates’ repo to all repos, IMO, will greatly reduce the activity on the server.

 
Comment by rushman
2008-12-02 12:50:20

I am begining to think opensuse is a game not an operating system.I hae played with it since 9.3,and it never gets to a stable issue because every 6 months it gets changed.then updates bring dependent errors.I always buy a boxed set but never again.

In my view beta 4 was better than 5 or rc1. there are still no printer drivers, update from the task bar does not work. No Nvidia driver. rc1 no beta 3 more like.

I do not like Ubunto but was given an rc1 Mint 6 and every thing works just fine.I would prefer once a year issues with updates that do not upset the system

rush man

Comment by dontrush
2008-12-02 18:02:55

If you can give us the names of those mean persons who force you to upgrade to every new version, maybe we could contact amnesty international or something…

Comment by danielmader
2008-12-08 15:30:44

No one is forcing anybody, or course… but unfortunately many new bug get introduced in each new release, and due to the release policy only major bugs or security flaws get fixed after the release. That leaves you with a system with bugs in some corners, and many people — including me — hope that a new release will wipe them out. Thus, I always do the update. Of course, that makes no sense as long as there’s more or as many new bugs as fixed old ones…

A good example for that is wifi support: we have a history of delivering buggy drivers (ath5k in 11.0, and now iwl3945) which are usually not getting a fix soon, i.e. before the next release!

If you ask me, testing a Linux distribution in a virtual machine has close to zero worth since it is exactly those things that are not discovered in time.

Things would not look so bleak if one could count on a later bugfix, though. But, personally, I have given up on that.

And yes, I agree to the OP: RC1 is worse than Beta 4 has been: wifi/network now broken, new KDE issues (some others fixed of course), update applet seems broken to me, etc…

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Comment by Michael
2008-12-03 04:41:06

After a lot of difficulties installing version 11 on my Fujitsu Lifebook, I must say that I am quite impressed with the RC1. Installation was much smoother and even the fingerprint reader was detected and is integrated nicely into the system.
Can’t wait for the release version :-)

 
Comment by Joe
2008-12-04 06:55:36

Well Well, I think we have a winner. OpenSuSE 11.1 is on it’s way, and I for one think this is by far the most stable one yet. I’ve tested all five beta versions and the RC-1,(Gnome live only) and bit by bit they have gotten better and better. I never had a lock up or any other bug that I would not have expected at the time of development. What more can I say. Everything I tried to do, worked! I will as always keep my currant version 11.0 installed for a bit even after the new release. You have no idea the trouble that version put me through… I have found in the past that if I wait just a few weeks, the upgrade goes even smoother. My recommendation? If you are new to Linux, this is the one! If you already use openSuSE or want to try it out, again I say, this is the one! There you go, their new slogan. “This IS The One”. Well that’s it for now. As always, happy Linixing!

 
Comment by Dich
2008-12-04 16:06:59

Anyone succeeded to run accelerated graphics (e.g. fglrx driver) with RC1 ?
I tried to download the official ATI file, which doesn’t produce the necessary driver :(

Comment by Nicholas Hester
2008-12-04 18:41:20

I have put bugs in for the fglrx driver before but was told to complain to AMD/ATI about it because it is their repo and packages. Even if it does break X11 from time to time without any desktop composition.

I think I stand to agree that 10.3 was much better as far as stability. 11.0 has not been ok as long as you never update packages or try KDE 4.1 which is more stable than 4.0 when shipped.

11.1 I have heard nothing but bad things out of the betas. It appears to me the patches are more of a just a patch me up thing until KDE or whoever fixes their trunk. Even then their patches break SUSE when the trunk refreshes as with Kwin with corruption/crashes. I hate to say it but I am really worried about SuSE. I’ve used it since 9.1 and it’s come a long way. I love the new zypper backend. I love the new KDE. Network manager however is completely garbage as of late. Can’t connect to non-broadcasting wireless. Has issues with DHCP requests, especially if upgrading going from dhcpcd to dhclient. They conflict if both installed and dhclient is required for the new network manager. X11 hasn’t been stable with ATI drivers. KDE has issues with X11 as well as far as transparency of the system tray.

I really don’t feel confident in trying anything. I don’t have the programing skills to write patches or debug. And finding workarounds for 4 hours to get a graphical interface working again is not what I call acceptable by any means. I know people are working hard on these issues. But it seems like with it being open development there are a lot more factors that have made SuSE fall behind compared to previous releases.

 
 
Comment by sofie
2008-12-04 20:59:41

Hi,

I had to use a Ubuntu install-CD to get een dualboot on my laptop. The openSUSE DVD couldn’t handle the MS Vista partitions. Ubuntu 7.10 could.

Sofie

 
Comment by sofie
2008-12-04 21:00:53

hi,

Openoffice can’t handle samba shares. It reports that it is not the right URL.

Sofie

 
Comment by Xtigyro
2008-12-05 11:27:59

Lots of bugs…

 
Comment by Twileik
2008-12-05 11:41:30

Why openSUSE 11.1 have so ugly graphics? The installer is so bud ugly and that GNOME wallpaper… :/ I don’t understand, why changing it while 11.0 was so pretty…

 
Comment by Ico
2008-12-05 19:59:09

To Twileik: 10.3 was even prettier than 11.0 (in my opinion)

 
Comment by Xtigyro
2008-12-05 21:37:22

I absolutely agree with Ico !
However, I don’t mind some bigger change in the visiualization style.

 
Comment by Ahmed Samir
2008-12-05 23:30:21

I can’t wait till the final version is released. I have been with SuSE since 9.1

 
Comment by ronquillo(-=aguila=-)
2008-12-06 08:51:13

In my opinion too, 10.3 is much than 11.0. When i configured its networking i got so many troubled, maybe because i want to try 3 different IP address ,in 11.0, because in my work area they uses different router and ofcourse they uses differentt IP address,

ex:
IP subnet default gateway
router1====192.168.5.234 255.255.255.0 192.168.5.250
router2====192.168.6.233 255.255.255.0 192.168.6.251
router3====192.168.7.232 255.255.255.0 192.168.7.252

here’s the what’s and how:

Server1===1st lancard====configured to router1
2nd lancard===configured to router2
3rd lancard===configured to router3

We all now or I just didnt know, I do make opensuse 10.3 several times but i cant use multiple lancard;
In 11.0 i can use multiple lancard but its very messy to configured, or just because this is my first tym i try 11.0
but when i restarted my computer everything has gone(configured lancard back to auto detect IP)

So who ever pls help me to configured it in a profer way, maybe because i am a newbie or just a user of opensuse thats why i always make a mistake configuring opensuse especially 11.0…..

I do prefer to use a new one, but if n other choice I wil return to 10.3(even It always disable other lan and accept only one connection)

thanks, I wish someone will response……………..

 
Comment by Graham Powell
2008-12-06 11:36:08

Unfortunately I find one huge fault with it – it refuses to connect to the internet no matter whether it is in it’s live disk form, or whether it is fully installed. The moment I use Suse 10.3 or 11.0 as a live disk everything is fine (as they both were fully installed), but each time that I revert to Suse 11.1 RC1, no internet once more.

All I can think is that it may be the the drivers for the NTLHome Broadband modem -model No.08004EU – I can’t find any hint of it’s actual manufacturer, though this does seem unlikely. Consequently I’m puzzled, need to use the internet now, so I guess it’s back to Suse 11.0 until the the final release on the 18th of this month. Though I intend to try one more install first in case I’m missing something. This has been written using Suse 11.0 live disk.

 
Comment by Gnom
2008-12-06 20:06:08

I use openSUSE 11 with a WIFI card that has ralink RT61 chip and SUSE has a driver for it but only for channels from 1 to 11 (I use 12), while there are from 1 to 13, so I think that version 11.1 should have all channel driver or option to choose a driver for your country…

Comment by Dich
2008-12-09 14:46:08

If I’m not mistaken the driver had an utility or modprobe option to choose the country specific frequencies. Please look into the documentation

 
 
Comment by prkix
2008-12-07 07:47:07

If I download and install 11.1-RC1, will I be able to get t0 11.1 with just a Yast online update? or will I have to reinstall 11.1 all over again?

 
Comment by taril
2008-12-10 08:43:42

11.1 isn’t a mistake?

 
Comment by effzee
2008-12-11 14:55:37

Any chance Amarok 2.0 final can be shoehorned into the 11.1 release?

8)

Comment by Beineri
2008-12-11 18:24:23

It’s included.

Comment by effzee
2008-12-12 01:08:20

Heeyy! :D

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Comment by Velocity
2008-12-13 04:19:29

Andreas,
Hey bud, Can you get together with your team. Have a conference on final release date. I know you put so much hard work into releases, I also know that over the last few years since SuSe switched to OpenSuse, things have grown at a much rapid rate, with much more demanding data into the releases, The amount of software into the new releases is 10 fold of what it was before. I understand the pressure and strains. However as I know you aware that now though, it seems so much more at crunch time things get to out of control sometimes, to get everything just perfect. I understand alot of packages are still in beta, or just released, or outdated, and some just plain buggy. I understand you take seriously every bug that is a show stopper, and do your best at making things right, before you release. But I can tell you from experience, i have been a silent member of the linux community, ever since linus moved from Helsinki in 1994, and created the kernel, and launched where we are today. I have seen the best linux distros come and go, some stayed, and SuSe is one of the them. I have used SuSe since it’s creation. So i can tell you from experience, that as much as you want to stay on date for releases, sometimes, it may be better to just hold off a bit, Make a huge announcement, that the release date has to be postponed just a bit so that ALL bugs (Well the most that possibly can) will be sorted before release. I know some people will get a little upset, and some may even go to another Distro until this release, But i feel for the most part, If you show the people why it is you are holding off on the release showing everyone the bugs that are still present, and just want to clear as many as possible, that most (majority) will understand the reasoning for the hold on the release. In fact i think it will challenge people to even try harder to come up with solutions, and also people will test harder to find as much as they can, with much more urgency and determination to fix, because they as much as You and I want this release. SO they will try much harder to get it worked out . Please understand my explanation, and I hope you consult the team for an emergency meeting, to get those bugs fixed first. you and I both know, You are a perfectionist that tries so hard to make things right. PLease see this as one of those things in your life, that must be as perfect as you want it to be, and take your time just sorting out the last of the bugs. (As many as possible). Andreas YOu are good people, and I know we have A understanding unlike alot of people, about the importance of how open source is the way life should be. Shared and cared for all to use . The happy Gnu way.
Your bud,
Velocity

 
Comment by Shuaib
2008-12-13 12:45:26

What version of KDE in 11.1???

Comment by Beineri
2008-12-13 17:00:03
 
 
Comment by macav
2008-12-16 11:05:47

Is there any way how to get bluetooth mouse working in 11.1 rc1 (gnome)? when I do it with bluetooth wizard, it finds my mouse, then it says “connecting to (null)” and then “connected successfully”, but it’s not working. it looks like the mouse isn’t even paired with the laptop. thx for reply

 
Comment by Lotlorien
2008-12-16 17:04:06

Could anyone please comment on the following issues:

(1) Compiz
———-

(a) 2D Performance with NVIDIA
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Compiz used to run fine in 10.3 and 11.0. However, only when I used XGL. Why? As I understand it, Compiz needs some layer or API. This is provided either by XGL or by the hardware of the graphics card. So for newer graphics cards one does not need XGL. However, not using XGL has the disadvantege for me that I have extremely bad (not usable) 2D performance with my NVIDIA card. I heard this is a NVIDIA driver issue. If I use XGL, I think all graphics operations (also 2D) use the 3D engine, therefore with XGL I have good 2D and 3D performance.

Now in 11.1 there is no XGL anymore. Does that mean that I can’t solve he NVIDIA 2D performance issue on openSuSE 11.1? Anyone with experience?

(b) 100% sure to crash it all
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Does this bug: http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=9942 still exist in 11.1?

(2) VirtualBox
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Does USB work in VirtualBox-2.0.4 on OpenSuSE-11.1?

(3) Multimedia
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Do all the multimedia codecs (mp3, ogg, DVD, etc.) work on 11.1?

(4) Encryption
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Has any improvevemt taken place in complete system hard disk encryption since 11.0?

(5) Packages
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Are there still missing/unresovled, you name it, package dependencies?

Thanks for any comments.

 
Comment by Jim Johnson
2008-12-17 19:01:01

I’m writing a little late… seeing as how the full 11.1 release is due to be published tonight. Anyway, I find it amazing how there so many complaining about “bugs” and yet there are also numerous idolizing the release.
For me, I am very happy with what has been published so far. My only complaint is this: The only repo’s/mirrors from which I could get software and updates for 11.1 (RC1) were listed as “Factory release”. Until a few days ago, there were no problems obtaining appropriate software. Then, all of the sudden, I started getting notices about changes/updates to openSUSE 11.2 and KDE 4.2 – not 11.1/4.1.3. I haven’t (as of yet) had any problems, but I’m wondering why this has happened and, when I download the full 11.1 release, how am I going to maintain such? as opposed to a factory release – which is desirable.
Not really looking for an answer – I could always reinstall :( in a worst case scenario.
Thanks for all the hard work and a job well done – in turn: resulting in an awesome product – “buggy” or not. :)
Jim

 
Comment by Jim Johnson
2008-12-17 19:05:06

Oops… sorry: I meant to state that the “stable” 11.1 release, as opposed to a “Factory” release, is desirable.
Thanks again;
Jim

 
Comment by Andreas Holtmann
2008-12-26 18:02:37

Using SuSE since version 5.2, I must admit it’s becoming pretty by the time. For me as a software developer, it is vital that you do not change the kernel too often without a real urgent need for it, since I have to re-install NVidia graphics driver, VMWare, and Antivir/Dazuko, as well as other self-composed software. It would also be on the wish list to install the _latest_ Java standard release (JDK and JRE) in a standard directory, say /usr/java/ , so all java related installations could rely on that.

Also, it would be nice to find out one or two multimedia players which work in real life. XMMS and VideoLAN are a good combination, but you’re fooling around with different multimedia applications too much. Better try to standardize it, I mean, focus on the best working solution.

Best regards,
Andreas Holtmann, Berlin, Germany

 
Comment by james
2009-01-28 04:54:53

Hi
I dld opensuse with kde and it works great, i love the kword beta it is best iteration yet…but have to have oo to translate stuff for microsith, however, cannot get amarok sound…. get a no codec error to play shoutcast streams.. i’ve tried everything libxine you name it. is this just something that will go away in the future or am i missing something, I’ve spent three years with a debian ubuntu distro so….anway…love the whole thing, just need music. By the by…. the sound hardware has been found, the opening and closing sounds play fine.
thanks for the great work
james

 

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