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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-7031</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

Since i got a new better computer (512MB Workspace, Intel P4), i wanted to change from Win to a linux os.

 I was testing all big ones yet, kubuntu, fedora, debian (only ubuntu will follow tomorrow). And so long, OpenSuse was the best. Why? IT IS STABLE. 
I only have one big issue for what i search and look: A operating system with no crashes, errors or weired things like that. Functionality isnt so important, if the system itself isn&#039;t worth. 
So i hope, all developers change their opinion (if so), to be in trend of the newest things. I doont care about the newest things, newest functions. 

Hardware support, stability, thats the only big importantt thing. Sure, it is in second line also important, to change easiest things like hide or changve desktop icons/links (like trash-icon).

thanks for OpenSuse and greetings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p>Since i got a new better computer (512MB Workspace, Intel P4), i wanted to change from Win to a linux os.</p>
<p> I was testing all big ones yet, kubuntu, fedora, debian (only ubuntu will follow tomorrow). And so long, OpenSuse was the best. Why? IT IS STABLE.<br />
I only have one big issue for what i search and look: A operating system with no crashes, errors or weired things like that. Functionality isnt so important, if the system itself isn&#8217;t worth.<br />
So i hope, all developers change their opinion (if so), to be in trend of the newest things. I doont care about the newest things, newest functions. </p>
<p>Hardware support, stability, thats the only big importantt thing. Sure, it is in second line also important, to change easiest things like hide or changve desktop icons/links (like trash-icon).</p>
<p>thanks for OpenSuse and greetings</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-7010</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree. After a full two years of trying the latest and greatest from openSUSE I have come to the conclusion that 10.3 is as far as it needs to go. I did have a stable 11.0 installed but after the attempt to upgrade to 11.1 it was too much of  a hardship for me and I just thew up my hands and went with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. It&#039;s really a shame too, I really like the flavor of openSUSE. I do have to say to the development team one thing... STOP tinkering too much... “If it&#039;s not broken, don&#039;t fix it”. That being said, I hope to find 11.2 a better flavor, and not a bitter one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree. After a full two years of trying the latest and greatest from openSUSE I have come to the conclusion that 10.3 is as far as it needs to go. I did have a stable 11.0 installed but after the attempt to upgrade to 11.1 it was too much of  a hardship for me and I just thew up my hands and went with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. It&#8217;s really a shame too, I really like the flavor of openSUSE. I do have to say to the development team one thing&#8230; STOP tinkering too much&#8230; “If it&#8217;s not broken, don&#8217;t fix it”. That being said, I hope to find 11.2 a better flavor, and not a bitter one.</p>
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		<title>By: Praveen Kunjapur</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-7001</link>
		<dc:creator>Praveen Kunjapur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>openSUSE has a good marketing tool which is any version of openSUSE is supported for two years. This marketing tool is also a point to be considered when formalizing openSUSE 11.2 schedule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>openSUSE has a good marketing tool which is any version of openSUSE is supported for two years. This marketing tool is also a point to be considered when formalizing openSUSE 11.2 schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Keßler</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-6939</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuel Keßler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An upgrade of my notebook harddisk looked like a good time to update from 10.2 to 11.1. However, after some two weeks of trying here and there, I deciced to downgrade again, a step I have not taken before (I am using Linux since about 0.99pl5, firstly slackware, later on SUSE). Reasons:
- My request during installation (complete install, no update) to use KDE3 instead of KDE4 was silently ignored for unknown reasons. Therefore I had to stick with KDE4 firstly.
- Reconfiguration of the ?control bar?(Kontrollleiste in the german version) was very cumbersome. The inclusion of the small calculator made it completely unusable (about 120 pixels high, but starting around 20 pixels from the lower edge of the screen with wrap around to the upper edge, scaling all icons to this huge size). Took me about an hour to hunt the culprit down to the calculator applet.
- Minor point: Several annoying changes for an experienced keyboard user, which probably would go away after some more weeks of getting used to it.
- Keeping my notebook in sync with my 10.2 desktop PC became very difficult due to different incompatible versions (most notably korganizer, pine and lyx). Of course, this could have been solved upgrading my desktop as well.
- Killer: Many hangs (sometimes five in an hour). No keyboard or mouse response, no external login via ethernet. Sometimes more or less reproducable with an innocent looking webpage (www.quietrevolution.co.uk, for the curious), but with any other interactive usage as well. No useful log info in /var/log/{warn&#124;messages}, but due to the interactiveness it feels like an KDE4 issue.
- Finally, after deciding to downgrade again (fortunately I had a solid backup), I did not succeed to reactivate the old 10.2 grub. After some three hours wasted I found out that the root partition (including /boot) reformatted by 11.1 used 256 byte inodes (which is apparently the default now), and the 10.2 grub can handle only 128 byte inodes. So I had to copy the 20GB once more from my backup - well, that is more a problem of myself than an 11.1 bug.

Anyway, my experience may be slightly non-standard, but I will stick with my rusty-but-trusty 10.2. Rebooting several times a day is not an option for productive work (my desktop usually has uptimes - well, the average time between two power outages, that is, half a year). or more). Perhaps I will give 11.2 a test run on a more spare system in order to avoid breaking a running system. The gimmicks of KDE4 (especially compiz fusion) are certainly dispensable for now and may be in a better state then.

Ciao,
    Manuel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An upgrade of my notebook harddisk looked like a good time to update from 10.2 to 11.1. However, after some two weeks of trying here and there, I deciced to downgrade again, a step I have not taken before (I am using Linux since about 0.99pl5, firstly slackware, later on SUSE). Reasons:<br />
- My request during installation (complete install, no update) to use KDE3 instead of KDE4 was silently ignored for unknown reasons. Therefore I had to stick with KDE4 firstly.<br />
- Reconfiguration of the ?control bar?(Kontrollleiste in the german version) was very cumbersome. The inclusion of the small calculator made it completely unusable (about 120 pixels high, but starting around 20 pixels from the lower edge of the screen with wrap around to the upper edge, scaling all icons to this huge size). Took me about an hour to hunt the culprit down to the calculator applet.<br />
- Minor point: Several annoying changes for an experienced keyboard user, which probably would go away after some more weeks of getting used to it.<br />
- Keeping my notebook in sync with my 10.2 desktop PC became very difficult due to different incompatible versions (most notably korganizer, pine and lyx). Of course, this could have been solved upgrading my desktop as well.<br />
- Killer: Many hangs (sometimes five in an hour). No keyboard or mouse response, no external login via ethernet. Sometimes more or less reproducable with an innocent looking webpage (www.quietrevolution.co.uk, for the curious), but with any other interactive usage as well. No useful log info in /var/log/{warn|messages}, but due to the interactiveness it feels like an KDE4 issue.<br />
- Finally, after deciding to downgrade again (fortunately I had a solid backup), I did not succeed to reactivate the old 10.2 grub. After some three hours wasted I found out that the root partition (including /boot) reformatted by 11.1 used 256 byte inodes (which is apparently the default now), and the 10.2 grub can handle only 128 byte inodes. So I had to copy the 20GB once more from my backup &#8211; well, that is more a problem of myself than an 11.1 bug.</p>
<p>Anyway, my experience may be slightly non-standard, but I will stick with my rusty-but-trusty 10.2. Rebooting several times a day is not an option for productive work (my desktop usually has uptimes &#8211; well, the average time between two power outages, that is, half a year). or more). Perhaps I will give 11.2 a test run on a more spare system in order to avoid breaking a running system. The gimmicks of KDE4 (especially compiz fusion) are certainly dispensable for now and may be in a better state then.</p>
<p>Ciao,<br />
    Manuel</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay Mishra</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-1/#comment-6937</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjay Mishra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thing which is most important is that Ubuntu and OpenSuse both are powered by linux. The only difference is in the drivers which they pack with the distro and a bit in look and feel. So saying that Ubuntu is crap or Opensuse is worst is not good. It depends upon your taste and liking. I tried both Ubuntu and OpenSuse, and found that both are very well in hardware detection and look and feel. I never had any problems with any of these (except in those old days when they were unable to detect my PCs graphics card). I really like the freedom and choices which comes with linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thing which is most important is that Ubuntu and OpenSuse both are powered by linux. The only difference is in the drivers which they pack with the distro and a bit in look and feel. So saying that Ubuntu is crap or Opensuse is worst is not good. It depends upon your taste and liking. I tried both Ubuntu and OpenSuse, and found that both are very well in hardware detection and look and feel. I never had any problems with any of these (except in those old days when they were unable to detect my PCs graphics card). I really like the freedom and choices which comes with linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Radoslav</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-6934</link>
		<dc:creator>Radoslav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys! I am using  Soundblaster Live! - 24 bit - Audigi LS, and i do not have any idea how to make 96000 hz use custom sampling rate in KDE4 !!! Because there are not this option! Please help anybody !!!Thank you very myth!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys! I am using  Soundblaster Live! &#8211; 24 bit &#8211; Audigi LS, and i do not have any idea how to make 96000 hz use custom sampling rate in KDE4 !!! Because there are not this option! Please help anybody !!!Thank you very myth!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jonzn4suse</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-6883</link>
		<dc:creator>jonzn4suse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would partition the drive and dual boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would partition the drive and dual boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-6841</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds easy!
Why didn&#039;t I tried to boot from DVD before?! :-D
&#039;Hope apache and the websites will run well after the upgrade.

Many thanks!
Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds easy!<br />
Why didn&#8217;t I tried to boot from DVD before?! :-D<br />
&#8216;Hope apache and the websites will run well after the upgrade.</p>
<p>Many thanks!<br />
Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Taylor</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-6840</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#0. Make sure your PC is set to be able to boot from a CD or DVD.
#1. Download the iso of openSuSE 11.1 (or purchase a copy)
#2. If you downloaded the iso, create/burn a DVD.
 ... &quot;create&quot; do not just copy
#3. Insert the DVD (or if you have a set, the 1st CD) into your drive.
#4. IF the auto loader wants to open a folder, just click cancel.
#5. Now re-start your machine.
#6. Follow the prompts and answer the questions ... until ...
#7. ... it will give you a choice of &quot;Installing&quot; OR &quot;Updating&quot;.
#8. Choose &quot;Update&quot; and then continue following directions.
#9. At the end you will have a &quot;New&quot; Version of openSuSE installed with most of your previous software still intact. Like all computer systems AND due to changes in software BECAUSE of the Upgrade, some of your previous software will also have to be Updated or Re-configured to work with the New System.

Enjoy and Have Fun,
Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#0. Make sure your PC is set to be able to boot from a CD or DVD.<br />
#1. Download the iso of openSuSE 11.1 (or purchase a copy)<br />
#2. If you downloaded the iso, create/burn a DVD.<br />
 &#8230; &#8220;create&#8221; do not just copy<br />
#3. Insert the DVD (or if you have a set, the 1st CD) into your drive.<br />
#4. IF the auto loader wants to open a folder, just click cancel.<br />
#5. Now re-start your machine.<br />
#6. Follow the prompts and answer the questions &#8230; until &#8230;<br />
#7. &#8230; it will give you a choice of &#8220;Installing&#8221; OR &#8220;Updating&#8221;.<br />
#8. Choose &#8220;Update&#8221; and then continue following directions.<br />
#9. At the end you will have a &#8220;New&#8221; Version of openSuSE installed with most of your previous software still intact. Like all computer systems AND due to changes in software BECAUSE of the Upgrade, some of your previous software will also have to be Updated or Re-configured to work with the New System.</p>
<p>Enjoy and Have Fun,<br />
Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/18/opensuse-111-released/comment-page-3/#comment-6831</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I&#039;m not so familiar with Linux ...
I still have a 10.3 installation. How can I upgrade to 11.1 ?
I&#039;ve searched hours for an information bout that but did not find anything.
Or do I have to reinstall my machine? :-(

Have a nice day,
Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I&#8217;m not so familiar with Linux &#8230;<br />
I still have a 10.3 installation. How can I upgrade to 11.1 ?<br />
I&#8217;ve searched hours for an information bout that but did not find anything.<br />
Or do I have to reinstall my machine? :-(</p>
<p>Have a nice day,<br />
Martin</p>
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