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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6817</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Different machine, same problem:
HP tx2500
ATI Radeon HD 3200
Kernel 2.6.27-7
Xorg 7.4
GNOME 2.24
Ubuntu 8.11

Displays:
LVSD - 1280x800 12&quot;
VGA - 1920x1200 25.5&quot; LCD

It sends signal to the external display (at 1024x768) during startup and the loading bar, but as soon as the login screen comes up on the laptop, the external monitor loses signal, and never regains signal until the shutdown loading bar screen.  I can configure the screen resolution just fine in System&gt;Preferences&gt;Screen Resolution, and it is confirmed by running xrandr which outputs:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 800, maximum 1920 x 1600
VGA-0 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
   1920x1200      60.0 +   60.0  
   1600x1200      60.0     60.0  
   1680x1050      69.9     60.0     60.0  
   1600x1024      60.2  
   1400x1050      70.0     60.0  
   1280x1024      75.0     60.0  
   1440x900       59.9     60.0  
   1280x960       60.0  
   1360x768       59.8  
   1280x800       60.0  
   1152x864       75.0     75.0     70.0     60.0  
   1024x768       75.1     75.0     70.1     60.0  
   832x624        74.6  
   800x600        72.2     75.0     60.3     56.2  
   640x480        75.0     72.8     72.8     75.0     66.7     60.0     59.9  
None connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
   1360x768       59.8  
   1152x864       60.0  
   1024x768       60.0  
   800x600        60.3  
   640x480        59.9  
LVDS connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 261mm x 163mm
   1280x800       60.0*+
   1024x768       60.0  
   800x600        60.3  
   640x480        59.9 

I still get no signal to the external monitor, I assume when Xorg is running.  I also tried installing the ATI Drivers FGLRX and no sucess.  The ATI Driver works for &quot;faking&quot; a wider desktop (IE making one desktop that&#039;s twice as wide), but I cannot achieve native resolution on the external display, which is important to me for photo editing.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,Eli
P.S. Sorry for the Ubuntu post in a SUSE forum, but this is the closest thing I have found after days of frustration and much googling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different machine, same problem:<br />
HP tx2500<br />
ATI Radeon HD 3200<br />
Kernel 2.6.27-7<br />
Xorg 7.4<br />
GNOME 2.24<br />
Ubuntu 8.11</p>
<p>Displays:<br />
LVSD &#8211; 1280&#215;800 12&#8243;<br />
VGA &#8211; 1920&#215;1200 25.5&#8243; LCD</p>
<p>It sends signal to the external display (at 1024&#215;768) during startup and the loading bar, but as soon as the login screen comes up on the laptop, the external monitor loses signal, and never regains signal until the shutdown loading bar screen.  I can configure the screen resolution just fine in System&gt;Preferences&gt;Screen Resolution, and it is confirmed by running xrandr which outputs:</p>
<p>Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 800, maximum 1920 x 1600<br />
VGA-0 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)<br />
   1920&#215;1200      60.0 +   60.0<br />
   1600&#215;1200      60.0     60.0<br />
   1680&#215;1050      69.9     60.0     60.0<br />
   1600&#215;1024      60.2<br />
   1400&#215;1050      70.0     60.0<br />
   1280&#215;1024      75.0     60.0<br />
   1440&#215;900       59.9     60.0<br />
   1280&#215;960       60.0<br />
   1360&#215;768       59.8<br />
   1280&#215;800       60.0<br />
   1152&#215;864       75.0     75.0     70.0     60.0<br />
   1024&#215;768       75.1     75.0     70.1     60.0<br />
   832&#215;624        74.6<br />
   800&#215;600        72.2     75.0     60.3     56.2<br />
   640&#215;480        75.0     72.8     72.8     75.0     66.7     60.0     59.9<br />
None connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)<br />
   1360&#215;768       59.8<br />
   1152&#215;864       60.0<br />
   1024&#215;768       60.0<br />
   800&#215;600        60.3<br />
   640&#215;480        59.9<br />
LVDS connected 1280&#215;800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 261mm x 163mm<br />
   1280&#215;800       60.0*+<br />
   1024&#215;768       60.0<br />
   800&#215;600        60.3<br />
   640&#215;480        59.9 </p>
<p>I still get no signal to the external monitor, I assume when Xorg is running.  I also tried installing the ATI Drivers FGLRX and no sucess.  The ATI Driver works for &#8220;faking&#8221; a wider desktop (IE making one desktop that&#8217;s twice as wide), but I cannot achieve native resolution on the external display, which is important to me for photo editing.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Thanks,Eli<br />
P.S. Sorry for the Ubuntu post in a SUSE forum, but this is the closest thing I have found after days of frustration and much googling.</p>
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		<title>By: tar,aq</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6579</link>
		<dc:creator>tar,aq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try to install all &lt;a href=&quot;http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.1&quot; title=&quot;codecs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;codecs&lt;/a&gt;
for &lt;a href=&quot;http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-kde.ymp&quot; title=&quot;KDE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;KDE&lt;/a&gt;
for &lt;a href=&quot;http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-gnome.ymp&quot; title=&quot;GNOME&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GNOME&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try to install all <a href="http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.1" title="codecs" rel="nofollow">codecs</a><br />
for <a href="http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-kde.ymp" title="KDE" rel="nofollow">KDE</a><br />
for <a href="http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-gnome.ymp" title="GNOME" rel="nofollow">GNOME</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kombucha</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6571</link>
		<dc:creator>Kombucha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 10:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry i prefere the 11.0 64bit and KDE 3.xxx. The reason is too many points there are not working in a good manner on the 11.1 and kd4 or 3.5xx. Also the Grafik thez did not solve a driver for mz ATI 3300 on my Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H the delivered driver is a fake i did not spoke over the keyboard driver...   and some other things...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry i prefere the 11.0 64bit and KDE 3.xxx. The reason is too many points there are not working in a good manner on the 11.1 and kd4 or 3.5xx. Also the Grafik thez did not solve a driver for mz ATI 3300 on my Gigabyte MA790GP-DS4H the delivered driver is a fake i did not spoke over the keyboard driver&#8230;   and some other things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: beavis</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6570</link>
		<dc:creator>beavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Legal reasons?

KDE is GPL&#039;ed, anyone can continue developing it.

I am extremely busy, I have 4 software projects, 3 network security projects, and a masters thesis.

Screw you. I am too busy to help a team who is obviously lost in me too land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legal reasons?</p>
<p>KDE is GPL&#8217;ed, anyone can continue developing it.</p>
<p>I am extremely busy, I have 4 software projects, 3 network security projects, and a masters thesis.</p>
<p>Screw you. I am too busy to help a team who is obviously lost in me too land.</p>
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		<title>By: amused</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6560</link>
		<dc:creator>amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 08:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My dear, you know the answer: Please don&#039;t feed the troll ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear, you know the answer: Please don&#8217;t feed the troll ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6559</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some ISPs (mine, for one) will cut you off in the 1-2GB range.  Solution: Use wget (ftp) with the  -c,  --continue option to                 resume getting a partially-downloaded file.  If your ISP cuts you off, just reissue the command to resume where it left off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some ISPs (mine, for one) will cut you off in the 1-2GB range.  Solution: Use wget (ftp) with the  -c,  &#8211;continue option to                 resume getting a partially-downloaded file.  If your ISP cuts you off, just reissue the command to resume where it left off.</p>
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		<title>By: Setareh sorbee3</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6558</link>
		<dc:creator>Setareh sorbee3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone know when openSuse 11 will be on final build? Its in Beta at the moment and I’m not the greatest Linux user, so I’d rather wait until the final build before giving it a go. Anyone know when this will be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know when openSuse 11 will be on final build? Its in Beta at the moment and I’m not the greatest Linux user, so I’d rather wait until the final build before giving it a go. Anyone know when this will be?</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Lawrence D'souza</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6554</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Lawrence D'souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, 

Thanks for a Great OpenSUSE 11.1 Distro. 

Wonderful Xmas Present. 

Keep up the Good work and lets hope more users start appreciating Open Source. 

Great Job Once again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>Thanks for a Great OpenSUSE 11.1 Distro. </p>
<p>Wonderful Xmas Present. </p>
<p>Keep up the Good work and lets hope more users start appreciating Open Source. </p>
<p>Great Job Once again.</p>
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		<title>By: menatwork</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6552</link>
		<dc:creator>menatwork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very promising with a few question marks. Having installed the 11.1 in Virtualbox I find that some things are effectively moving ahead in KDE and I am looking forward to version 4.2 that will be probably well usable for everyday life. Compliments the installation process, however I have some doubts about the overall security policy of Opensuse lately. You continue to choose &quot;same password user and root&quot; by default. I do not subscribe to this view. I am using version 11 on my notebook with encrypted home partition. The encryption of root partition was troublesome and the installation of the boot sector on usb-key (at least in 11.0) was impossible due to grub getting messed up after kernel update.This tedious procedure is always the same in 11.1. Opensuse is now remarkably fitting for use on modern notebooks (especially intel chipsets like my Samsung Q35 pro). Users with notebooks need a working install with as much as encryption as possible (because notebooks get stolen and lost). I would welcome a more easy and working procedure for full encryption with some &quot;extra&quot;(like usb-booting). I can see that linux can get an important share on netbooks (who wants XP on a netbook - ever tried it with the antivirus installed? Unbearable...). Therefore you should fix asap the very limiting bug in bluetooth support. Why? Because linux users in notebooks are technically very open persons that often make intensive use of all technical possibilities. Although I decided to use 11.0 for another 3 month (to get the bugs fixed) I have to say: impressive, promising and the better OS choice is Opensuse and linux in general. Please stick to a credible security policy. Because THIS is a real an unique competitive advantage of yours. I am looking forward to install (for a last time 3.5.10 in March). Thank you for your continuous commitment to linux. Great job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very promising with a few question marks. Having installed the 11.1 in Virtualbox I find that some things are effectively moving ahead in KDE and I am looking forward to version 4.2 that will be probably well usable for everyday life. Compliments the installation process, however I have some doubts about the overall security policy of Opensuse lately. You continue to choose &#8220;same password user and root&#8221; by default. I do not subscribe to this view. I am using version 11 on my notebook with encrypted home partition. The encryption of root partition was troublesome and the installation of the boot sector on usb-key (at least in 11.0) was impossible due to grub getting messed up after kernel update.This tedious procedure is always the same in 11.1. Opensuse is now remarkably fitting for use on modern notebooks (especially intel chipsets like my Samsung Q35 pro). Users with notebooks need a working install with as much as encryption as possible (because notebooks get stolen and lost). I would welcome a more easy and working procedure for full encryption with some &#8220;extra&#8221;(like usb-booting). I can see that linux can get an important share on netbooks (who wants XP on a netbook &#8211; ever tried it with the antivirus installed? Unbearable&#8230;). Therefore you should fix asap the very limiting bug in bluetooth support. Why? Because linux users in notebooks are technically very open persons that often make intensive use of all technical possibilities. Although I decided to use 11.0 for another 3 month (to get the bugs fixed) I have to say: impressive, promising and the better OS choice is Opensuse and linux in general. Please stick to a credible security policy. Because THIS is a real an unique competitive advantage of yours. I am looking forward to install (for a last time 3.5.10 in March). Thank you for your continuous commitment to linux. Great job.</p>
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		<title>By: José Luis</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2008/12/24/numbers-again/comment-page-1/#comment-6551</link>
		<dc:creator>José Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes I got the same problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I got the same problem.</p>
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