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	<title>Comments on: Ready to Rumble: openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 4 Released</title>
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		<title>By: Christian Esken</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7562</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Esken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For your information: I just opened a bugreport for that: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529512</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For your information: I just opened a bugreport for that: <a href="https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529512" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529512</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7556</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please get KDE 4.3 bugs fixed before release!

Akonadi storage is brittle in the existing factory releases, and there are lots of problems still w/ KDE PIM (but developers are clearly working--if you find a bug today, just update tomorrow and it will probably be gone--of course, it will be back in a few more days)

Novell needs to get its marketing act together and start pushing openSUSE in front of corporate decision makers looking at the choice of sticking with XP or upgrading to Windows 7.  If KDE is going to be part of the reason to ditch Windows, then KDE 4 has got to get its act together ASAP, or it will be confused w/ Vista!  Lots of Glitz, but things still break.



Some CRITICAL MISSING FUNCTIONALITY:

(1)   &lt;strong&gt;KDE PIM needs to connect to Exchange Server!&lt;/strong&gt;  Yes, I know that Exchange sucks, Micro$oft sucks, blah, blah, but this is just one of those things that will keep openSUSE off corporate desktops.  
(2)  KDE 4.3 needs to be fixed and released.  Great that people are already working on 4.4 and 4.5, but openSUSE and other distros which use KDE need to have a sit down w/ the KDE team and let them know that it would be good to have at least one stable, functional release of KDE 4.x before the next major release.  
(3)  J2EE and Java libraries are still very messy and hard to put together a decent, up to date stack (esp. since the Tomcat 6 security patch has been broken for weeks now).  Need to put together a decent full end-to-end solution as a package group (JBoss, GlassFish, Geronimo, whatever--just have all the parts in one place so someone can install from Repo without having to go to Sun or RedHat, etc.  Also, a lot of the Java packages are stale and need fresher versions (e.g. AXIS2 has been out for a while, might be worth adding to the Apache Java libraries).
(4)  OpenSUSE needs to get a good XRX (XForms, ReSTful XML DB, XQuery) stack together.  This can work great w/ a J2EE enterprise, and as a short-cut to functionality that is otherwise time consuming to build.
(5)  Semantic desktop great idea, but where are the tools?  Why is it next to impossible to find a decent UML editor for Linux which can do the OMG&#039;s ODM and support tranforms to OWL-DL.  Need to get some more end-user friendly desktop tooling to deal with semantic web, either in the (IMHO) easier to understand ODM UML2, or in OWL-DL.
(6)  &lt;strong&gt;Package management needs QA&lt;/strong&gt;  How many weeks should go by with a critical security patch in Tomcat 6 broken (it won&#039;t install due to some problem w/ the file)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please get KDE 4.3 bugs fixed before release!</p>
<p>Akonadi storage is brittle in the existing factory releases, and there are lots of problems still w/ KDE PIM (but developers are clearly working&#8211;if you find a bug today, just update tomorrow and it will probably be gone&#8211;of course, it will be back in a few more days)</p>
<p>Novell needs to get its marketing act together and start pushing openSUSE in front of corporate decision makers looking at the choice of sticking with XP or upgrading to Windows 7.  If KDE is going to be part of the reason to ditch Windows, then KDE 4 has got to get its act together ASAP, or it will be confused w/ Vista!  Lots of Glitz, but things still break.</p>
<p>Some CRITICAL MISSING FUNCTIONALITY:</p>
<p>(1)   <strong>KDE PIM needs to connect to Exchange Server!</strong>  Yes, I know that Exchange sucks, Micro$oft sucks, blah, blah, but this is just one of those things that will keep openSUSE off corporate desktops.<br />
(2)  KDE 4.3 needs to be fixed and released.  Great that people are already working on 4.4 and 4.5, but openSUSE and other distros which use KDE need to have a sit down w/ the KDE team and let them know that it would be good to have at least one stable, functional release of KDE 4.x before the next major release.<br />
(3)  J2EE and Java libraries are still very messy and hard to put together a decent, up to date stack (esp. since the Tomcat 6 security patch has been broken for weeks now).  Need to put together a decent full end-to-end solution as a package group (JBoss, GlassFish, Geronimo, whatever&#8211;just have all the parts in one place so someone can install from Repo without having to go to Sun or RedHat, etc.  Also, a lot of the Java packages are stale and need fresher versions (e.g. AXIS2 has been out for a while, might be worth adding to the Apache Java libraries).<br />
(4)  OpenSUSE needs to get a good XRX (XForms, ReSTful XML DB, XQuery) stack together.  This can work great w/ a J2EE enterprise, and as a short-cut to functionality that is otherwise time consuming to build.<br />
(5)  Semantic desktop great idea, but where are the tools?  Why is it next to impossible to find a decent UML editor for Linux which can do the OMG&#8217;s ODM and support tranforms to OWL-DL.  Need to get some more end-user friendly desktop tooling to deal with semantic web, either in the (IMHO) easier to understand ODM UML2, or in OWL-DL.<br />
(6)  <strong>Package management needs QA</strong>  How many weeks should go by with a critical security patch in Tomcat 6 broken (it won&#8217;t install due to some problem w/ the file)?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcio Riccardo</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7554</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcio Riccardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running perfect here, the only problem with accents on the keyboard abnt2 (KDE), resolved adding in xorg.conf Option &quot;AutoAddDevices&quot; &quot;False&quot; in Section &quot;ServerFlags&quot;, who have problems installing nvidia, solution in http://mrcliq.freehostia.com/?p=20</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running perfect here, the only problem with accents on the keyboard abnt2 (KDE), resolved adding in xorg.conf Option &#8220;AutoAddDevices&#8221; &#8220;False&#8221; in Section &#8220;ServerFlags&#8221;, who have problems installing nvidia, solution in <a href="http://mrcliq.freehostia.com/?p=20" rel="nofollow">http://mrcliq.freehostia.com/?p=20</a></p>
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		<title>By: gavinto</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7551</link>
		<dc:creator>gavinto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there any big changes anticipated between M5 and the final release?  I know in 11.1 some people installed early Betas/RC candidates and then were not able to upgrade to the final RC without a clean swipe and re-install.

If I install M5 will I be able to &quot;seamlessly&quot; update to each now M*/RC*?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any big changes anticipated between M5 and the final release?  I know in 11.1 some people installed early Betas/RC candidates and then were not able to upgrade to the final RC without a clean swipe and re-install.</p>
<p>If I install M5 will I be able to &#8220;seamlessly&#8221; update to each now M*/RC*?</p>
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		<title>By: lem8r</title>
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		<dc:creator>lem8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone can build ati driver v9.7(kernel module) for opensuse 11.2 M4, M5??? It&#039;s a crap! I hardly build driver v9.6 in M4(not M5) but only with 3 patches from ubuntu forum.. Neither 9.6 nor 9.7 didn&#039;t support new kernel sources.. 
Any thoughts?..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone can build ati driver v9.7(kernel module) for opensuse 11.2 M4, M5??? It&#8217;s a crap! I hardly build driver v9.6 in M4(not M5) but only with 3 patches from ubuntu forum.. Neither 9.6 nor 9.7 didn&#8217;t support new kernel sources..<br />
Any thoughts?..</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Esken</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7540</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Esken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have also wondered. I need this for the X-Fi driver, which will is not available with the  2.6.30 kernel (but with the 2.6.31 kernel).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also wondered. I need this for the X-Fi driver, which will is not available with the  2.6.30 kernel (but with the 2.6.31 kernel).</p>
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		<title>By: montana</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7538</link>
		<dc:creator>montana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looking good, I was unable to compile nvidia kernel due to &#039;missing version.h&#039; error thrown during compilation process. Plasma annoys me to no end so I end up using XFCE or gnome - If you guys have any pull with the KDE team try and sneak in a hint that some users would like an easy toggle for turning plasma desktop off? ;) The tight binding of plasma to the desktop is a little quirky even though it looks nice- still think it&#039;s a little buggy. 
I still run everything from the command line whenever possible so maybe I&#039;m not the best resource for feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looking good, I was unable to compile nvidia kernel due to &#8216;missing version.h&#8217; error thrown during compilation process. Plasma annoys me to no end so I end up using XFCE or gnome &#8211; If you guys have any pull with the KDE team try and sneak in a hint that some users would like an easy toggle for turning plasma desktop off? ;) The tight binding of plasma to the desktop is a little quirky even though it looks nice- still think it&#8217;s a little buggy.<br />
I still run everything from the command line whenever possible so maybe I&#8217;m not the best resource for feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Adi</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7537</link>
		<dc:creator>Adi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I installed OSM4, it looks fantastic!
I have a question: if I keep using it, will it upgrade the packages when new milestones are released? and when the 11.2 version will be released, will it upgrade? I plan on using this version (with the necessary care for backups and instability of course), because it is very nice and fast.
My notes for this release (64 bits flavor): 
 - plasma-desktop starts to use the processor a lot after about 1-2 hours of work
 - there is no widget to show the desktop
 - phot0shop cs 2 no longer runs in wine (last know version to run was opensuse 11.1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed OSM4, it looks fantastic!<br />
I have a question: if I keep using it, will it upgrade the packages when new milestones are released? and when the 11.2 version will be released, will it upgrade? I plan on using this version (with the necessary care for backups and instability of course), because it is very nice and fast.<br />
My notes for this release (64 bits flavor):<br />
 &#8211; plasma-desktop starts to use the processor a lot after about 1-2 hours of work<br />
 &#8211; there is no widget to show the desktop<br />
 &#8211; phot0shop cs 2 no longer runs in wine (last know version to run was opensuse 11.1)</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/07/27/ready-to-rumble-opensuse-112-milestone-4-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7536</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well openSuse looks like it&#039;s heading to kill Vista 2 aka Win 7 ;) I downloaded and ran the KDE 4 live CD yesterday which I was really impressed by, however, one doesn&#039;t get the real feeling from a live CD so I did what I didn&#039;t plan to - I installed it. The first thing that I noticed was the improvement in speed, which I do hope will continue to get better. The second thing was YaST. YaST got a nice face lifting. I like the new interface and the Qt-look. It&#039;s also much faster than it is in openSuse 11.1. 
i haven&#039;t got any crashes so far and everything seems to be working smoothly and at an improved speed over 11.1. I have managed to install an nvidia graphic driver, the libdvd and win32 codecs and all that I need for a fully functional DE. It&#039;s so stable that I can&#039;t believe that it&#039;s not even a beta as yet. Keep up the good work openSuse Team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well openSuse looks like it&#8217;s heading to kill Vista 2 aka Win 7 ;) I downloaded and ran the KDE 4 live CD yesterday which I was really impressed by, however, one doesn&#8217;t get the real feeling from a live CD so I did what I didn&#8217;t plan to &#8211; I installed it. The first thing that I noticed was the improvement in speed, which I do hope will continue to get better. The second thing was YaST. YaST got a nice face lifting. I like the new interface and the Qt-look. It&#8217;s also much faster than it is in openSuse 11.1.<br />
i haven&#8217;t got any crashes so far and everything seems to be working smoothly and at an improved speed over 11.1. I have managed to install an nvidia graphic driver, the libdvd and win32 codecs and all that I need for a fully functional DE. It&#8217;s so stable that I can&#8217;t believe that it&#8217;s not even a beta as yet. Keep up the good work openSuse Team!</p>
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		<title>By: Denislav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denislav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In opsnSUSE 11.1 and openSUSE 11.2 Milestone has kernel ACPI bug.
In installation, after install screen reaches:
pci 0000:01:07:0: PME# supported from D0 D1 D2 D3 hot
.................................................. .
pci 0000:01:07:0: PME# disabled
pci 0000:00:08:0: transparent bridge

system cannot running after.

Boot option acpi=off ; noacpi and etc not working.

In openSUSE 11.0 all in OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In opsnSUSE 11.1 and openSUSE 11.2 Milestone has kernel ACPI bug.<br />
In installation, after install screen reaches:<br />
pci 0000:01:07:0: PME# supported from D0 D1 D2 D3 hot<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. .<br />
pci 0000:01:07:0: PME# disabled<br />
pci 0000:00:08:0: transparent bridge</p>
<p>system cannot running after.</p>
<p>Boot option acpi=off ; noacpi and etc not working.</p>
<p>In openSUSE 11.0 all in OK.</p>
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