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openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 5 Released

August 10th, 2009 by

openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 5 (M5) is now available for download. It includes several updates, new features, bugfixes, and other improvements. This milestone includes KDE 4.3 final, a kernel built specifically for desktop systems, and beta 1 of OpenOffice.org 3.1.1.

This is a Milestone Release, one of several that lead up to the 11.2 final release in November. It may not be suitable for production systems, but is ready for contributors who want to help with testing and development for 11.2.

Changes Since openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 4

Lots of changes since the M4 release! This release is built with GCC 4.4.1, and debug packages are generated for each sub-package. It also includes many updated packages and a few new packages, including:

  • Linux kernel 2.6.31-rc4
  • Xen 3.4.1 RC10
  • GNOME 2.27.5
  • PackageKit 0.5
  • Apache 2.2.12
  • Choqok 0.6.1
  • VirtualBox 3.0.2

A more complete list can be found on the wiki and an updated list of Factory packages can be found on DistroWatch.

11.2 is looking fantastic. Want screenshots? We’ve got ‘em! Check out the shots here, and/or add your own.

Most Annoying Bugs

As this is a milestone release, 11.2 M5 does contain a few bugs that we know about, but should not stand between courageous contributors and release testing. The big bugs in 11.2 M5 are:

  • Live CD ISOs will not boot from USB on some hardware
  • The GNOME Live-CD image is missing Tomboy, Beagle, and GNOME-Do.
  • Bug #529098: x86_64 DVD ISO doesn’t fit on DVD
  • Bug #522025: X doesn’t display properly in VirtualBox machines with big video memory. Workaround: reduce video memory size or switch to first console and back (default: right Ctrl-F1, right Ctrl-F7)
  • Bug #529113: and Bug #482749: kdesu does not work (for example, starting YaST), work-around: ‘su -c “unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS;yast2″‘
  • Bug #528397: X server might hang with some video drivers (vesa, intel) in runlevel 5 before the KDM logon occurs. A workaround can be found in this comment.

You can track the Most Annoying Bugs on the wiki along with 11.2 development.

Testing! Testing! Testing!

As you can see, 11.2 M5 does have a few annoying bugs that we know about — but there may be more lurking somewhere in the release that haven’t been found yet. If you want to make sure 11.2 final is free of Most Annoying Bugs, we’ll need your help finding, reporting, and fixing those hidden bugs.

Holger Sickenberg has put out a call for testing team members. If you’re interested in doing some heavy testing on openSUSE, check out Holger’s announcement.

To learn more about testing openSUSE, visit the Testing pages on the openSUSE wiki. To follow the testing and development process, we suggest that you subscribe to the openSUSE-Factory mailing list, and join the #openSUSE-Factory channel on Freenode to discuss openSUSE development.

Get Milestone 5 Today!

What are you waiting for? Grab the milestone release today! Downloads are available at software.opensuse.org/developer/ now.

Note, if you need to try the live DVD on a machine with no CD-ROM drive, you can copy it to a USB key with the following command:

dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M

Replace “image.iso” with the name of the ISO image that you have downloaded, and replace “sdX” with the actual device name of your USB drive. Be careful! This will erase the target device, so make sure you have the correct device name and have any vital data backed up!

The next milestone will be released on August 20th.

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55 Responses to “openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 5 Released”

  1. What is meant by “a kernel built specifically for desktop systems”?

    • Thomas

      kernel-desktop flavor: disabled group scheduler and groups, disabled optimize for size, enabled full preemption, set HZ=1000

  2. shuai

    “a kernel built specifically for desktop systems”

    Does that mean the future 11.2 release will come with a desktop/laptop system kernel? Is there going to have a server version like ubuntu?

  3. Bobby

    The KDE 4 live CD isn’t working. I can see the boot screen until it reaches the point where KDE should start then the screen just turns black and the only thing that helps is the reset button. I tried all available graphic modes but I got the same result.
    I am eager to try M5 but I just don’t have the vibes to download a DVD iso. Is there the possiblity of updating from M4 to M5 without using a CD/DVD? Something like zypper dup or yast?
    M4 is really great and seems to be more stable and a lot snappier than openSuse 11.1 so I can just imagine what M5 is like. If only I could get it installed without downloading the DVD iso…

    • Thomas

      zypper dup will get you to M5

      Maybe this is what you are experiencing: Bug #528397: X server might hang with some video drivers (vesa, intel) in runlevel 5 before the KDM logon occurs. Look above for workaround!

      • Bobby

        Thanks for the answer. I am now in the process of updating using zypper dup and it’s going smoothly. I will share the result with you guys later.

    • Beineri

      For the Live-CD switch to text mode with F3 at the boot prompt, login as root and init 5

  4. copper

    Does this milestone release already allow to install to an encrypted root file system?

  5. gavinto

    Two quick questions

    1) I believe in M4 building of ATI specific drivers didn’t work. Is this fixed?
    2) Is upgrading between M5 and the next M*/RC* recommended if you install this Milestone, or is it best to do a clean install each time?

  6. linjunhalida

    There is no live DVD, there is only livd CD and DVD, which I’ll use for a live usb?

  7. Les

    Getting as far as text login then nothing – thype in guest and guest but not allowing me to go any further – any ideas?

  8. Sommething does wring here I can’t download the M5 I download only 230 MB

  9. I mean the DVD ISO

  10. Andrew Sam

    Hi there, I am not able to install as there is a md5 checksum error. This is the 4th dvd I’ve burnt (with the live CD image). Also your method of creating LiveUSB also doesn’t seem to work as it say no isolinux.bin… any suggestions that might help?

    • halida

      How to create liveusb is listed above. read carefully.

      • Dich

        It is also listed that on “some” machines it will fail… namely, if the PC has a CD-rom drive, that will be detected first, and your usb will not be probed anymore… enjoy…

  11. Smith

    Why not just use the term “Beta” instead of inventing new marketing words?

    • Beineri

      Because it’s more about development than marketing? And why call it “Beta” when it’s actually more “Alpha”? :-)

  12. r'cek

    All Master,

    I have installed OS 11.2 on my mechine but Xdesktop is blank (console only)
    Is it(openSUSE-DVD-Build0200-i586.iso) ready?

    Actually
    http://mirror1.opensuse.or.id/distribution/11.2-Milestone5/iso/openSUSE-DVD-Build0200-i586.iso

    Thank

    R’cek

  13. I have burn the live cd’s but only Gnome work/ KDE load but nothing

  14. burpnrun

    For those folks who, like me, had continual hangs while booting the x86 KDE4 live CD, never getting to a desktop of a console prompt; gathered from various threads at opensuse sites:

    1. at boot time, select “text” via the F3 options (not vesa, or resolution, etc)
    2. when console/terminal prompt comes up, enter “root” (no quote marks, no subsequent password.
    3. at command prompt, type “cd /etc/init.d” (no quote marks)
    4. at next command prompt, “nano earlyxdm” (ditto)
    5. find the “Should-Start” line, and add “haldaemon” at the end of it, behind “firstboot”, leaving a space between the words.
    6. save the file (CTL+O, I believe, and use the same file name, i.e., overwrite)
    7. exit nano (CTL+X, I believe)
    8. back at command prompt, type “insserv” (no quote markes)
    9. lastly, type “startx” (ditto) … and then wait quite a while while the graphical KDE4 desktop loads.

    You can use RandR utility (if needed) to change the resolution after desktop is loaded.

    You have to do all of the above each time you boot from the M5 live CD, unless they come out with this fixed in M6, or (I suppose), you install to HDD. Or, you are adept at fixing the .ISO image to reflect the change needed above in the “earlyxdm” file.

    • Dich

      And why the hell this trivial patch wouldn’t be incorporated in the ML5 BEFORE releasing it out?
      How are the milestones different from plain factory images, I wonder?
      USB boot doesn’t work, X-server doesn’t work, networkmanager doesn’t work, it gets worse and worse with every next milestone, guys what are you up to there?

  15. halida

    I install 11.2, and don’t know how to install nvidia driver,
    Do I have to compile one?
    I tried http://en.opensuse.org/New_NVIDIA_cards and found there is no 11.2.

    • Bobby

      There is an nVidia repository in the openSuse Community list but I couldn’t install the driver from that repo. I don’t know if it’s because i am running 11.2 on a Laptop but I had to download and compile the driver. make sur theat the kernel-source is installed. Compiling is easy but you can even ask here if you need help.

  16. In opsnSUSE 11.1 and openSUSE 11.2 Milestone has kernel ACPI bug.
    In installation, after install screen reaches:
    pci 0000:01:07:0: PME# supported from D0 D1 D2 D3 hot
    ………………………………………….. .
    pci 0000:01:07:0: PME# disabled
    pci 0000:00:08:0: transparent bridge

    system cannot running after.

    Boot option acpi=off ; noacpi and etc not working.

    In openSUSE 11.0 all in OK.

  17. Juno

    According to intalling nvidia drivers on Milestone 5.
    I downloaded all needed: kernel-source and as Yast suggested kernel-devel and ofc NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.31-pkg1.run.
    And intalling in Init 3 i still have info about incompatibility of kernels or something like that. :)
    Any1 could explain in DETAILS for noob as me how to compile (i have gcc, make, cmake) required files?
    Thx
    Juno

    • Bobby

      It should work. Which nVidia card do you have? Do you have a 64-Bit system installed. Are you using a laptop or PC? The driver version should match your card.

    • Kaial

      Did you do «zypper dup»?

  18. scott

    Please just make sure NM/IFUP and Yast Services work correctly!

  19. Juno

    Sorry.
    PC Desktop, 32-bit, 7900 GTO
    drivers: 185.
    I dotn know what “zypper dup” is. :D

    Thx

    • Bobby

      Zypper dup updates the whole system. I use it to update from openSuse 11.2 M4 to Milestone 5. It works like a charm. just open the terminal (type terminal in the start menu) enter su then press enter and your root password, press enter and then zypper dup. You might have to answer a few questions and confirm the licence. Confirm the licence by entering q to go to the end and then y for yes. There you go, depending on your internet speed and the amounte of packages to be updated you should have a fully updated system in a few hours.
      After that I am sure that you will have to restart and reinstall the nVidia driver. Download the latest nVidia driver and put it somewhere where you can install it easily like in the home directory. Run level 3 with F1, enter your user name, password. then su for root, root password and then just run the script: sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.31-pkg1.run for example. thpe init 5 after the installation and you are done.

  20. Dimitri

    Network manager “looks” working, but there is no way to connect to my WiFi network – I mean it recognize my wifi card correctly, scans all available spots around very well, then since the wlan network setting is configuring happens just nothing. No list of available connections, and even no “connect” button either.. Did somebody else meet the same problem or it’s only me?..

    Rgds,
    -Dimitri

    • Dich

      Hi Dimitri!

      I experience the same, for both Milestone 5 and Factory images.
      I dream one day KDE3 networkmanager will come back, please please!

  21. Juno

    Thx Bobby.
    I was working on zypper today. And i felt in love.
    Its mmarvelous.
    But.
    I went back to Milstone 4 with kernel 2.6.30.2-3 (propably).
    As i try to instal nvidia it always says me in yast: i need to find my kernel-source. So using even zypper i can find: kernel-source 2.6.27 or 2.6.31.
    No kernel-source for 2.6.30 any version.
    :/
    Im too noob to install full new 2.6.30.4 or to patch.
    Im gonna isntal Milstone 4 again and try to instal nvidia again. :/

    Thx for help.
    Zypper r0x!

    • Eliasse Diaite

      Hi gentleman,

      Do not give up so fast and do the following:

      zypper -r install kernel-source

      Then reboot the system to runlevel 3 by add the boot parameter as an option: init 3 (note the blank between init and 3). Log in and cd to the folder containing the downloaded nvidia driver, become root privileges and run the command the installer by simply typing:

      sh nvidia-xxx-xxx-xxx-run.

      This works for all kernel release candidates up to rc5.

      • Juno

        Thx Eliasse Diaate.
        But. :)
        Zypper shows 2 kernel-source.
        How to boot to init 3?
        Or may be its enough to make init 3 just after zypper installing kernel-source?
        Or i have to first reboot?
        Thx.
        Juno

      • Juno

        Eliasse
        I did everything as U adviced.
        Now installer cant find version.h file, propably doesnt exist or patch is bad. I checekd path and its ok.
        :/

  22. Alex Medina

    I’m testing this Milestone (64 version), and when I run startx I’m getting:

    cannot load /lib/modules/2.6.31-rc 4-1-default/modules.dep

  23. Dich

    I have a proposal to SuSE people.
    Why don’t you guys separate the “BOOT+INSTALL” sections of the development from the rest of the system and really take care these two actually DO work before every milestone release? I mean, it’s kind of useless to include the latest banshee or openoffice or anything, you name it, if the distro can’t be installed for tests! Me and I’m sure many others do not keep a dedicated machine for doing the tests, or running zypper dup to obtain the latest milestone, but rather download and burn the liveCD and there you go – it doesn’t boot, or it boots and has no X, or it has X (after sax2 ) but has no network. Can’t this be a little less annoying? Is there any way to show you care for your loyal users, or at least for the product you make? I understand you have your manpower distribution and priority lists, but these (boot+install support) are so obviously “must”, that one doesn’t even need to discuss!

    • Eliasse Diaite

      Hi Mr Dich,

      You seem to forget that Milestones are released to testing and that users must expect all kind of troubles running a system in this stage of the development.Note that most of the comments above are made by unexperienced users who by the way learn how to troubleshoot those problems as they occur and they help fixing bugs unknown to the development team.

      Someone mentioned that she or he wants to install the Nvidia graphic driver. For that purpose she or he needs to have a basic development environment already set up and the kernel source and kernel devel packages if using one of the recent openSUSE kernel packages. There is no nvidia package for those kernel builds and the installation is done manually.

      • Dich

        nope, I didn’t forget anything. I appreciate the fact that now one may use simple ‘dd’ for creating bootable usb live systems instead of doing all kinds of gymnastics of repacking the initrd and so on. I know it’s a hard work of keeping the dependencies of 5000 constantly changing packages in sync. But still, in my opinion, if one wants to “install Nvidia drivers” one first has to be able to boot the system, and hence this is of a higher priority. What comes to testing – in my opinion a milestone has to have something different from a regular daily factory build, which is indeed expected to have ANY kind of bugs and troubles.

        • Bobby

          Although Diaite has a valid and logical point I agree with what you just said Dich. I guess the goal is to get as many people (including not so experienced users) as possible to test the system and there is no way to test a system that doesn’t boot or start the DE unless one is a console freak. Nothing against the console but this should be a KDE 4 CD so people who download and burn it expect just that.
          If the most Linux users are like me then I can say that they are very patient people, who always try to find a solution if something doesn’t work but there are things that are in the hands of the devs who should realise that Linux is not a Geek OS anymore. There are quite a lot of console strangers out there who are interested in Linux and of course I don’t think that the devs want to disappoint them eventhough it’s “just” a milestone release.
          M5 is for testing yes but you know what? After getting it installed using zypper dup I find it to be even better than the staple version 11.1. I personally can’t wait for the next Milestone.

        • Dich

          Hi Bobby!

          In fact I found factory releases 219-221 are much better than the M5. If it was so easy to fix why not putting one of those as a Milestone release? Yes they are buggy, too (if you click install yast gives you errors and does all the installation silently, without any fancy dialogs, but still you have the possibility to follow the y2log), but at least it boots, finds network and installs after all…

          For the failing networkmanager I found that you HAVE to use the kwallet, in that case a wireless encrypted connection is possible. Still an explicit “connect/disconnect” button or menu item would be useful.

  24. Phillip

    I can live what Dich is saying, I don’t have the technical skills and surely would like to use the latest and greatest SUSE (using paid 11.0), I enjoy reading the comments. I have no problem allowing the ‘system’ to feedback what is working or not, but lots of time is wasted on installing issues. Looking at the Star Rating – this is worse than the previous M. You will loose loyal beta testers. Sharing the name OpenSUSE and the newbie comes here looking for info and finding this – maybe he / she will be selecting something else – just my 2c – thank you for a great product – will skip this download – Firefox 3.52 is brilliant.

  25. The ISO does not burning. Other people have it the same problem? Thank you very much.

    Serge

  26. Juno

    According to nvidia drivers i have general notice.
    Im unexperienced user. But i think openSUSE is worthy to spend so much time on it.
    And all U (experienced users) for sure remember Ur newbie time as U spent hours which became days and finally days and nights.
    As me. So keeping respect of newbies persistence with having fun/fighting there should be a clear (even for non english natives) guidline.
    U say, there r many.
    Well… First i need to get know why (like nvidia drivers) soemthing doesnt work. Mostly defining problem is taking time.
    Next i need to find [SOLUTION] :)
    Next to find [HOW TO].
    Next to get know why it can fail.
    Next try. Mostly it doesnt work at once. So try and try. BONUS! Every try is shorter then previous one. :) IM LEARING!
    At the end EITHER i got know its impossible OR possible.
    So thats my noob boring life with Linux. AS some1 could ask, why ppl are afraid of Linux. :)

    After over week of fighting with nvidia drivers on Milestone 4 i got know that kernel 2.6.30.1-2 will not work with ANY nvidia drivers
    UNLESS
    1. i do it manually
    or
    2. i update kernel
    or
    3. i install correct onemyself.
    As U (experienced ones) see its not a task for newbie for his first job.
    In my lame opinion, installing nvidia is critical point for newcomers (desktop/home using/entertainment oriented). As i cant do it, mostly my linux is useless. Cause for using web browser and mail i dont need to leave shitty XP.

    So id like to get know. If its possible to have EASY AND NOOB FRIENDLY upgrade kernel tool under YasT or zypper?
    After i got know HOW to patch my kernel, i found patch, commands etc. I read it can fail. And ofc it failed with many errors/failures.
    Why i cant predict (like relations warnings in YasT) that my patch will not work before i start?
    Is it possible to have under YasT EASY AND NOOB FRIENDLY procedure to exchange kernel?

    Sorry for my english.

    Thx.
    Juno
    :)

  27. I install 11.2, and don’t know how to install sis 671/672 3D driver,
    please help me

  28. Atul

    I have tried to install using Gnome-LiveCD. Initially, Install failed with quite a huge Log on my System(P4-3.2GHZ 2GB RAM 120 GB HDD, NVIDIA 256MB RAM, 20″ widescreen 1600×1050). After completing Install somehow, boot up and auto-login etc worked nicely. All Apps run nicely, and interface is quite nice as well.
    Shutdown seems to allow only Hibernate, am not sure why. I have to drop to a prompt and run shutdown as Root. Logoff, because of the default Auto-Login, actually ends up just back into a session.
    Not too critical, but MS Wireless Natural Desktop(KB & Mouse), weren’t recoginzed by default and don’t seem easy to configure for all the added keys and buttons. I’ll check up Documentaion and try to cocnfigure.
    Also, Compiz doesn’t start at all, nor do Desktop Effects when choosing those options in Control Center.
    Still some way to go , I suppose, surely this can’t be called “fantastic”. Was hoping for more, sorry.
    Thank you.

  29. Dwight Paige

    Spam protection: Sum of s-ix + n-ine ? So why is 15 incorrect???

  30. Dwight Paige

    If there is going to be a torrent for [and there probably shouldn't be one anyway]:

    openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-BiArch-Build0233-i586-x86_64-iso

    Shouldn’t it a least be seeded? There are people trying to download this via torrent. No one is able to finish it. Is there some other purpose to a torrent that can’t be downloaded? Might be confusing to some… Is to me.

    • Dwight Paige

      And I do apologize if I’m being a pain I just thought this was odd. Then It took me quite some to to figure out how to answer “Spam protection: Sum of t-wo + s-ix ?” If I actually figured that out. No chance it just started working randomly just to confuse a middle aged LinuxGNU user. You deliberately did this to infuriate me!