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	<title>Comments on: openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 8 Released</title>
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		<title>By: John Manship</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7899</link>
		<dc:creator>John Manship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(my anti spam answer of (t-en)+(n-ine)=te2ni wasn&#039;t accepted. Where&#039;s your sense of humor?)

I installed this over my current 11.1, but the last portion of the install began to lag greatly. Has to abort and retry, and we all know how fun that can be. 

Lost most of my original apps that were resident in my prior install, some of the new apps wouldn&#039;t run. I&#039;m going to do a fresh install, but SuSE is going a different direction that I would normally choose. I&#039;ve been a faithful user since version 7, but it&#039;s been downhill ever since 9. 10 was good, but 11+.... not so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(my anti spam answer of (t-en)+(n-ine)=te2ni wasn&#8217;t accepted. Where&#8217;s your sense of humor?)</p>
<p>I installed this over my current 11.1, but the last portion of the install began to lag greatly. Has to abort and retry, and we all know how fun that can be. </p>
<p>Lost most of my original apps that were resident in my prior install, some of the new apps wouldn&#8217;t run. I&#8217;m going to do a fresh install, but SuSE is going a different direction that I would normally choose. I&#8217;ve been a faithful user since version 7, but it&#8217;s been downhill ever since 9. 10 was good, but 11+&#8230;. not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Bent Mathiesen</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7884</link>
		<dc:creator>Bent Mathiesen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A comment to the long time user.

I am also a long time user of suse (10 years) - and Linux since 1993. Unix since 1984.
My experience is the same, I have _never_ been able to update a suse system - it have always broken the installation.
From time to time I have considered to move from suse because of this - but stayed trustful to this old friend.

I am planning to build a new system (supermicro, 24 GB ram, i7, 6+ TB) for virtualization and move my 200 servers to it - with suse 11.2 as the base - but if it breaks I might move to something else (like redhat or ubuntu)

Kind regards

Bent]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment to the long time user.</p>
<p>I am also a long time user of suse (10 years) &#8211; and Linux since 1993. Unix since 1984.<br />
My experience is the same, I have _never_ been able to update a suse system &#8211; it have always broken the installation.<br />
From time to time I have considered to move from suse because of this &#8211; but stayed trustful to this old friend.</p>
<p>I am planning to build a new system (supermicro, 24 GB ram, i7, 6+ TB) for virtualization and move my 200 servers to it &#8211; with suse 11.2 as the base &#8211; but if it breaks I might move to something else (like redhat or ubuntu)</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Bent</p>
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		<title>By: mukk</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7841</link>
		<dc:creator>mukk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does the final 11.2 release come out with KDE 4.3.2 or still 4.3.1 ???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the final 11.2 release come out with KDE 4.3.2 or still 4.3.1 ???</p>
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		<title>By: mukk</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7840</link>
		<dc:creator>mukk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I upgrade, for example, my 11.1 version to 11.2 by changing just the repos?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I upgrade, for example, my 11.1 version to 11.2 by changing just the repos?</p>
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		<title>By: duh</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7839</link>
		<dc:creator>duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now is precisely the time to bring up the many problems that have plaugued opensuse since Novel bought SuSe.Maybe then, the release won&#039;t be so bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now is precisely the time to bring up the many problems that have plaugued opensuse since Novel bought SuSe.Maybe then, the release won&#8217;t be so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff-cao</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7837</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff-cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 08:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t install it from live-cd (x64-KDE4). The installer crashed after chose timezone. any ideas?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t install it from live-cd (x64-KDE4). The installer crashed after chose timezone. any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: JAG</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7836</link>
		<dc:creator>JAG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The kernel comes in 3 parts now.You have to install kernel-destop base and development.  I don&#039;t know why they&#039;re doing this but whatever.  That&#039;s what screws up the nvidia compile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kernel comes in 3 parts now.You have to install kernel-destop base and development.  I don&#8217;t know why they&#8217;re doing this but whatever.  That&#8217;s what screws up the nvidia compile.</p>
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		<title>By: nedux</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7834</link>
		<dc:creator>nedux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and i know: zypper in man-pages
but even then most man pages are missing!!!!! can please anyone shed a light on this (very important) issue for me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i know: zypper in man-pages<br />
but even then most man pages are missing!!!!! can please anyone shed a light on this (very important) issue for me</p>
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		<title>By: nedux</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7833</link>
		<dc:creator>nedux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi guys ,
i have install clean M8 and absolutely all man pages are missing!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi guys ,<br />
i have install clean M8 and absolutely all man pages are missing!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Taylor</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/01/opensuse-11-2-milestone-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-7832</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a positive note: M8 installation was much better than M7. M8&#039;s reboots were reliable. Could, and did, setup apache2, DNS and Samba for a working local Network. It appears to be faster in operation.

Now the other note: NVidia 185.18 will work fine -but- 190.36 (which is BETA) will not. You CAN get 190.36 installed and it will appear to work -until- you open 2 or 3 or more windows. The last one (cause you can&#039;t proceded) will be an empty black box.

Quanta keeps asking for some files that I loaded after the first time it asked. However, it keeps telling me they are not installed.

Could not install VMware 5.5.9 because of changes in init_task.c. The mm_struct has been moved and I am not sure ... yet ... if there is a fix. Yes I know Kang has one but I do believe his fix was before they totally removed the mm_struct from init_mask.c. Just may have to scape together the coins to move up to VMware 6.5.
KDE4 - We have a little confusion here. It appears that &quot;we&quot; are changing from a Desktop full of icons to a Desktop with containers full of icons. At initial startup we get a Desltop with a &quot;Desktop Folder&quot;. However, IF you right click on one of the items in the launch panel and click on Add to Desltop, that&#039;s just what it does. It does NOT put it in the Desktop Folder. So which are we really doing??? The Desktop Folder can be moved AND IF its background is not transparent you will cover up the other items on the Desktop. Yes, I realize that will happen with any folder -but- this one is supposed to be there all the time. Or at least I would think that is the premise. I prefer the Desktop anyway so if it is not changed I will be happy. Just a little confusing on the concept. Oh, and I have had a Firefox icon ON the Desktop and IN the Folder. The one on the Desktop was NOT always reliable. Hmmmm... that could have been part of the nVidia 190.36 problems. Not sure at the moment.

Haven&#039;t seen anyone else make a remark about compiling/building a kernel so either all were successful or no one has tried. In both of my attempts it was a complete failure. There is either something wrong, something changed or whatever. A point in the right direction of the &quot;proper&quot; procedures for building an openSuSE 11.2 kernel would be appreciated. The way I have done it in the past isn&#039;t working.

Flash is not loaded by default. There is a &quot;place holder&quot;. You must install it yourself. You can either wait until you are notified of the need -or- download and install the latest version.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a positive note: M8 installation was much better than M7. M8&#8242;s reboots were reliable. Could, and did, setup apache2, DNS and Samba for a working local Network. It appears to be faster in operation.</p>
<p>Now the other note: NVidia 185.18 will work fine -but- 190.36 (which is BETA) will not. You CAN get 190.36 installed and it will appear to work -until- you open 2 or 3 or more windows. The last one (cause you can&#8217;t proceded) will be an empty black box.</p>
<p>Quanta keeps asking for some files that I loaded after the first time it asked. However, it keeps telling me they are not installed.</p>
<p>Could not install VMware 5.5.9 because of changes in init_task.c. The mm_struct has been moved and I am not sure &#8230; yet &#8230; if there is a fix. Yes I know Kang has one but I do believe his fix was before they totally removed the mm_struct from init_mask.c. Just may have to scape together the coins to move up to VMware 6.5.<br />
KDE4 &#8211; We have a little confusion here. It appears that &#8220;we&#8221; are changing from a Desktop full of icons to a Desktop with containers full of icons. At initial startup we get a Desltop with a &#8220;Desktop Folder&#8221;. However, IF you right click on one of the items in the launch panel and click on Add to Desltop, that&#8217;s just what it does. It does NOT put it in the Desktop Folder. So which are we really doing??? The Desktop Folder can be moved AND IF its background is not transparent you will cover up the other items on the Desktop. Yes, I realize that will happen with any folder -but- this one is supposed to be there all the time. Or at least I would think that is the premise. I prefer the Desktop anyway so if it is not changed I will be happy. Just a little confusing on the concept. Oh, and I have had a Firefox icon ON the Desktop and IN the Folder. The one on the Desktop was NOT always reliable. Hmmmm&#8230; that could have been part of the nVidia 190.36 problems. Not sure at the moment.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t seen anyone else make a remark about compiling/building a kernel so either all were successful or no one has tried. In both of my attempts it was a complete failure. There is either something wrong, something changed or whatever. A point in the right direction of the &#8220;proper&#8221; procedures for building an openSuSE 11.2 kernel would be appreciated. The way I have done it in the past isn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>Flash is not loaded by default. There is a &#8220;place holder&#8221;. You must install it yourself. You can either wait until you are notified of the need -or- download and install the latest version.</p>
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