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	<title>Comments on: Number Two Always Tries Harder: openSUSE Milestone 2</title>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8416</link>
		<dc:creator>roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the most part these are sociopaths and murderers who lived off the pain and suffering of others and then betrayed their own supporters when they consolidated power. A bunch of thugs. Not worthy of study other than to show how most people are truly gullible and stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part these are sociopaths and murderers who lived off the pain and suffering of others and then betrayed their own supporters when they consolidated power. A bunch of thugs. Not worthy of study other than to show how most people are truly gullible and stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: wolfspider</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8415</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfspider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very pleased with 11.2 and look forward to 11.3 openSUSE has given me a bit of trouble in the past. That being said, I still think it&#039;s the best distro around. And I will continue to use it so long as it keeps getting better. So far it has...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very pleased with 11.2 and look forward to 11.3 openSUSE has given me a bit of trouble in the past. That being said, I still think it&#8217;s the best distro around. And I will continue to use it so long as it keeps getting better. So far it has&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8414</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That screen shot was most likely of someone who is studying history in school. Maybe you need to go back and learn a few new things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That screen shot was most likely of someone who is studying history in school. Maybe you need to go back and learn a few new things.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8413</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WTF R U talking about. Get a life somewhere else...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF R U talking about. Get a life somewhere else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8412</link>
		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LXX - all users hear you and I am another one - from memory we have been complaining about since the beginning of Weekly News - In reality I dont think any of us expect it to be fixed its been almost 18 months now. Just take a copy of you text B4 you submit and then refresh your screen. If your text disappears - just paste the copy you took - Eventually after a number of refresh screen one will come up that works]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LXX &#8211; all users hear you and I am another one &#8211; from memory we have been complaining about since the beginning of Weekly News &#8211; In reality I dont think any of us expect it to be fixed its been almost 18 months now. Just take a copy of you text B4 you submit and then refresh your screen. If your text disappears &#8211; just paste the copy you took &#8211; Eventually after a number of refresh screen one will come up that works</p>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8411</link>
		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do we really need another version to fix all the bugs
It appears we are creating a new version, with all KDE/Gnome fixes in it and throwing it against the wall and see what bugs we can then close in the previous released versions in Bugzilla
Why can&#039;t we work through the current 2,000 odd bugs and fix them and put them out as online updates (Or is this concept so radically new)!!!!!
We have current Kernel Bugs in 11.2 in bugzilla.
In my mind A Kernel Bug should be
Priority=1 Urgency=1 Affected Users=1 =========== 24/7 365 days work until closed, and then we have a debrief on why.
I cease to be amazed at how poorly managed PMS is. Who is the Problem Manager???????????
Anyone else have far different actual experience of the use of PM Systems and how they are managed.
It is impossible that I am the only person to have experienced an effectually implemented and managed Problem Management Systems
Another thought would be to more all development into either KDE or Gnomes Offices where we demand developers use day to day the default OPENSUSE version we use. Bugs can be identified before testers eyes and corrected before we have an Alpha Product.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we really need another version to fix all the bugs<br />
It appears we are creating a new version, with all KDE/Gnome fixes in it and throwing it against the wall and see what bugs we can then close in the previous released versions in Bugzilla<br />
Why can&#8217;t we work through the current 2,000 odd bugs and fix them and put them out as online updates (Or is this concept so radically new)!!!!!<br />
We have current Kernel Bugs in 11.2 in bugzilla.<br />
In my mind A Kernel Bug should be<br />
Priority=1 Urgency=1 Affected Users=1 =========== 24/7 365 days work until closed, and then we have a debrief on why.<br />
I cease to be amazed at how poorly managed PMS is. Who is the Problem Manager???????????<br />
Anyone else have far different actual experience of the use of PM Systems and how they are managed.<br />
It is impossible that I am the only person to have experienced an effectually implemented and managed Problem Management Systems<br />
Another thought would be to more all development into either KDE or Gnomes Offices where we demand developers use day to day the default OPENSUSE version we use. Bugs can be identified before testers eyes and corrected before we have an Alpha Product.</p>
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		<title>By: LXX</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8402</link>
		<dc:creator>LXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Romanator I will give it a try.

Spam protection is still broken. It looks as if o-ne has to be subtracted instead of added. eg. o-ne + e-ight = 7, not 9.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Romanator I will give it a try.</p>
<p>Spam protection is still broken. It looks as if o-ne has to be subtracted instead of added. eg. o-ne + e-ight = 7, not 9.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574857]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574857" rel="nofollow">http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574857</a></p>
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		<title>By: romanator</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8399</link>
		<dc:creator>romanator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boot in FailSafe and install Nvidia driver 195.36.03]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boot in FailSafe and install Nvidia driver 195.36.03</p>
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		<title>By: Romanator</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/02/17/number-two-always-tries-harder-opensuse-milestone-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8398</link>
		<dc:creator>Romanator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boot in FailSafe Mode and install Nvidia driver 195.36.03 driver]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boot in FailSafe Mode and install Nvidia driver 195.36.03 driver</p>
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