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	<title>Comments on: openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 3 is out!</title>
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		<title>By: pablillo</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8453</link>
		<dc:creator>pablillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[would you guys make gdm customizable???
it&#039;s really annoying that this cannot be done...

please i beg you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would you guys make gdm customizable???<br />
it&#8217;s really annoying that this cannot be done&#8230;</p>
<p>please i beg you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8448</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just installed Milestone 3 only to be greeted with a very colourful rainbow screen. The problem is that one can&#039;t recognise anything apart from colours on the screen! I thought that the new and improved xorg would make it possible for me to at least use the vesa driver if the nvidia driver is not installed but that&#039;s not the case. With Sax2 I could go to the console and switch to the vesa driver but since Sax2 is dead what do i do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just installed Milestone 3 only to be greeted with a very colourful rainbow screen. The problem is that one can&#8217;t recognise anything apart from colours on the screen! I thought that the new and improved xorg would make it possible for me to at least use the vesa driver if the nvidia driver is not installed but that&#8217;s not the case. With Sax2 I could go to the console and switch to the vesa driver but since Sax2 is dead what do i do?</p>
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		<title>By: Gelson</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8447</link>
		<dc:creator>Gelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this release is intended for enthusiastics addicted and developers. I don&#039;t contribute to it only because I &lt;i&gt;sux&lt;/i&gt; at programmin&#039;. But, I realized that if I report my bug that is coming from early versions, before the new Final release, my bug would be discovered and solved on the great release. 

&lt;i&gt;While the coders are coding new things to it then they can code things to repair the problems on the code also.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks,

Gelson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this release is intended for enthusiastics addicted and developers. I don&#8217;t contribute to it only because I <i>sux</i> at programmin&#8217;. But, I realized that if I report my bug that is coming from early versions, before the new Final release, my bug would be discovered and solved on the great release. </p>
<p><i>While the coders are coding new things to it then they can code things to repair the problems on the code also.</i></p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Gelson</p>
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		<title>By: obiwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>obiwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Installed it on a laptop with Radeon HD 3470 graphics. Screen goes blank before X is launched.
Can we hope to finally get KMS support working in openSUSE, pleeease?? 

Why can Ubuntu pull that of and you guys can&#039;t??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Installed it on a laptop with Radeon HD 3470 graphics. Screen goes blank before X is launched.<br />
Can we hope to finally get KMS support working in openSUSE, pleeease?? </p>
<p>Why can Ubuntu pull that of and you guys can&#8217;t??</p>
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		<title>By: oldcpu</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8445</link>
		<dc:creator>oldcpu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gerlson, if you visit openSUSE forums, we will try to sort your audio problem.  Please also note that Milestone releases, such as announced here , are intended for users to try out and then CONTRIBUTE to the bug fixing process. Please note the word &quot;contribute&quot;. If you are installing it with no sense of contributing, then that does not make sense IMHO. It makes far more sense to try a stable release, and report your problems with a stable release on the appropriate stable release venue. This wiki page is NOT such a venue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerlson, if you visit openSUSE forums, we will try to sort your audio problem.  Please also note that Milestone releases, such as announced here , are intended for users to try out and then CONTRIBUTE to the bug fixing process. Please note the word &#8220;contribute&#8221;. If you are installing it with no sense of contributing, then that does not make sense IMHO. It makes far more sense to try a stable release, and report your problems with a stable release on the appropriate stable release venue. This wiki page is NOT such a venue.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8444</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you 100%. They should give the RC enough time for testing and finding show stoppers and annoying bugs. I have had the problem with every openSuse release up to now that one gets a good impression after the installation but a day after you suddenly realise that a lot of stuff don&#039;t work and it takes a few updates after that to bring back things to normal. I do hope that OS11.3 will work without hitches, especially internet, network and multimedia related stuff.

Bugzilla also scare English speaking users. People  just want to say what doesn&#039;t work without going through a million technical details. It should be as easy as that anyway.

Btw, the Spam protection here isn&#039;t working properly]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you 100%. They should give the RC enough time for testing and finding show stoppers and annoying bugs. I have had the problem with every openSuse release up to now that one gets a good impression after the installation but a day after you suddenly realise that a lot of stuff don&#8217;t work and it takes a few updates after that to bring back things to normal. I do hope that OS11.3 will work without hitches, especially internet, network and multimedia related stuff.</p>
<p>Bugzilla also scare English speaking users. People  just want to say what doesn&#8217;t work without going through a million technical details. It should be as easy as that anyway.</p>
<p>Btw, the Spam protection here isn&#8217;t working properly</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe for you, but for me it worked fine. No problems on the dual core, NVIDIA graphics system I installed it on. You need to be much more detailed with your complaint, like listing your hardware, make/model etc. As everything failed does that mean the bootloader didn&#039;t load the OS ? Most people who read your comment will not respond to you in a helpful way because for most people 11.2 works fine. What does that tell you ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe for you, but for me it worked fine. No problems on the dual core, NVIDIA graphics system I installed it on. You need to be much more detailed with your complaint, like listing your hardware, make/model etc. As everything failed does that mean the bootloader didn&#8217;t load the OS ? Most people who read your comment will not respond to you in a helpful way because for most people 11.2 works fine. What does that tell you ?</p>
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		<title>By: Gelson</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8441</link>
		<dc:creator>Gelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, 

I&#039;d like to report a bug in the distro that KDE cannot deal with my Sound Card (snd-hda-intel). It&#039;s recognized by the kernel and the module works well, the Yast tested it well too, but when I try to use AmaroK or a media/video player it doesn&#039;t work, never, since the version 11.1 when I acquired my PC.

My sound card is a onboard nForce 630i, that uses Realtek High-Def audio driver; I suppose I ain&#039;t sayin&#039; foolishness, so on openSUSE and KDE the sound doesn&#039;t come up, but only on programs, in tests and on another situation it works, even on streaming videos! That&#039;s why I don&#039;t understand what is the real deal. I tested it on Gnome and the problem persists, so I&#039;ve to change the distro and I&#039;m using Mandriva now, which I don&#039;t like it too much, but everything works well.

So of course I pray for the gods (that put live on SuSE), please make my sound works as it&#039;s suppose to on openSUSE 11.3! \o/

Thanks,

Gelson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to report a bug in the distro that KDE cannot deal with my Sound Card (snd-hda-intel). It&#8217;s recognized by the kernel and the module works well, the Yast tested it well too, but when I try to use AmaroK or a media/video player it doesn&#8217;t work, never, since the version 11.1 when I acquired my PC.</p>
<p>My sound card is a onboard nForce 630i, that uses Realtek High-Def audio driver; I suppose I ain&#8217;t sayin&#8217; foolishness, so on openSUSE and KDE the sound doesn&#8217;t come up, but only on programs, in tests and on another situation it works, even on streaming videos! That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t understand what is the real deal. I tested it on Gnome and the problem persists, so I&#8217;ve to change the distro and I&#8217;m using Mandriva now, which I don&#8217;t like it too much, but everything works well.</p>
<p>So of course I pray for the gods (that put live on SuSE), please make my sound works as it&#8217;s suppose to on openSUSE 11.3! \o/</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Gelson</p>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8440</link>
		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree 1.2 should never have got to RC when there were blocker bugs still present. Dont hold your breath for 11.3 to be the answer. Traditionally developers only release a new version to add functionality, not to fix bugs.
OpenSUSE stands alone as one of the only developers that release a new version in the HOPE many bugs are fixed.
In 30 years of development experience, this equates to throwing mud against a brick wall and see what sticks.
Its neither logical nor practical and very expensive to continue to release a new version as a bug fix of the previous one.
This makes a mockery of ISO standards, best practice and common sense.
Rather than the expense of a new version RC, we should be using that time and money to go through Bugzilla.
Thats why we have a Problem Management System, but it value seems only lip service to having a stable and virtually bug free version.
I dont know what our QA Manager does, but in my experience, a QA Manager would NEVER permit the release of anything
except online fixes by the thousands.
Hate my words or love my words, but do not be apathetic and voice your own!
Other people thoughts please!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 1.2 should never have got to RC when there were blocker bugs still present. Dont hold your breath for 11.3 to be the answer. Traditionally developers only release a new version to add functionality, not to fix bugs.<br />
OpenSUSE stands alone as one of the only developers that release a new version in the HOPE many bugs are fixed.<br />
In 30 years of development experience, this equates to throwing mud against a brick wall and see what sticks.<br />
Its neither logical nor practical and very expensive to continue to release a new version as a bug fix of the previous one.<br />
This makes a mockery of ISO standards, best practice and common sense.<br />
Rather than the expense of a new version RC, we should be using that time and money to go through Bugzilla.<br />
Thats why we have a Problem Management System, but it value seems only lip service to having a stable and virtually bug free version.<br />
I dont know what our QA Manager does, but in my experience, a QA Manager would NEVER permit the release of anything<br />
except online fixes by the thousands.<br />
Hate my words or love my words, but do not be apathetic and voice your own!<br />
Other people thoughts please!</p>
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		<title>By: Hayath</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/03/15/opensuse-11-3-milestone-3-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-8439</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hope new release will be better than 11.2, 11.2 installed smoothly but billions of problems for a normal Internet user. Problems in everything. Every step fails, connection,speed, graphic cards, everything fails.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope new release will be better than 11.2, 11.2 installed smoothly but billions of problems for a normal Internet user. Problems in everything. Every step fails, connection,speed, graphic cards, everything fails.</p>
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