Comments on: openSUSE 11.3 Milestone 5: The Community Strikes Back

By: Chris Galardi

Chris Galardi — Sun, 16 May 2010 15:53:36 +0000

Just a few corrections about that last bit. Dungeon Crawl is not a nethack clone; better to call it a roguelike. Also, the website linked is historical and represents a version that hasn’t been in development for quite a few years. I think it might be better to link to http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/

By: Rainer Hurtado Navarro

Rainer Hurtado Navarro — Sat, 01 May 2010 16:15:06 +0000

It seems that there is no a page devoted to 11.3 M6 yet.

Well, it seems that openSuSE 11.3 M6 is nice, but as far as I run it, sysinfo:/ protocol doesn’t work; KNetworkManager often fails and crashes, and the network connection falls, and it is a mess to link to hidden wireless networks; and does not provide support for SATA HDDs attached to SouthBridge VIA VT 8251’s SATA, which are not detected, although they should (broken since 10.3 for x86_64). And it is not an old hardware: it was bought new late 2006, due to the goal was to assemble a computer in which install the next to release 10.2 Final.

11.3 M5…

By: Paul M

Paul M — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 06:37:27 +0000

I upgraded from 11.2 using a combination of a loop-back mount of the iso and factory respositories, and everything has been working well for me (32 bit)

I would thus expect this release to be excellent

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:57:30 +0000

If the alpha 5 is any indication as to how the final release will be, this may turn out to be one of the most stable releases in a long time.

By: Graham

Graham — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:23:00 +0000

I found that I had to change the graphic resolution to 1024 x 748 at installation time in the options line at the bottom of the screen. If I left the graphics resolution at 1600 x whocares, then I had no graphics screen, just snow and scrambled rubbish.

By: Rainer Hurtado Navarro

Rainer Hurtado Navarro — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 01:44:53 +0000

I am downloading openSuSE 11.3 M5 KDE live x86_64 to try it. I previously downloaded x86_64 install DVD and it did not wok. But I am already aware that you know that: I read the posts. And to test the live KDE x86_64 (which hopefully will work) I have to wait. So, I can not tell how it is right now. It follows part of my wish list. That I share it before test M5 is a matter of opportunity: I can post now, but obviously to test M5 has to wait a bit longer (the download to be finished). I hope to be surprised by M5, really.
What I am hopping to find (or my wish list) follows: I beg you that you provide in 11.3 some packages that aren’t in 11.2, such as LilyPond, perl-gimp module, pdftk, Thorndale AMT font; and to provide support for SATA HDDs attached to SouthBridge VIA VT 8251′s SATA, which are not detected, although they should (broken since 10.3 for x86_64). Also, that you care the radeonhd kernel module ([RS780M/RS780MN/HD 3200] System freeze during Xserver startup), and Okular (certain PDFs make the KDE Desktop and, even, the SO to freeze) and OOo suite (quite buggy: Cut/Copy and Paste randomly fails, Search/Replace Dialog has some issues, the Horizontal scrollbar is difficult to hold with the mouse to scroll up/down in large documents, the input line of OOo Calc has a narrow height so the lower part of the font is hidden, the lower status bar of OOo is not properly drawm, the marginal Commentaries in OOo Writer aren’t handily to manage: color, font type and font size). Most of those items are already reported (for 11.2, at least) and I am concern about them when “testing” 11.3 pre-releases (Milestones and Release Candidates).
Meanwhile I have reviewed the openSUSE 11.3 Schedule: I see that the M6 is quite next, but I am already downloading M5 (and also M6 could be delayed as it seemed that happened to M5).
Thank you.

By: PhillipS

PhillipS — Sat, 24 Apr 2010 05:11:34 +0000

This is a Team Effort between the Developers, the Testers (me included)and Owners of the specific products.
The competition between the different Distributions (distrowatch) are high and this all leads to market share.
Who takes responsibility for example mysql or php that has a bug and we report this to “bugzilla.novell.com”
Surely Oracle (new owner) is in control but we as SUSE contributers is assisting in making it better but can Novell
put pressure on to get it fixed. I believe that version MySQL 5.1.45 is better than version 5.1.36 and expect that it
will reach “factory” (Fedora has it). Don’t the other distributions have the same bugs?
May be someone can explain this to newbie’s like myself that do not understand the process

By: CA

CA — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 05:36:44 +0000

If we have any money to spend money,I personally would like to see the Quality Managers Job Paid in respect of a Professional commercially Proven Track Record placed at Suse.

QA Managers report to the Board so in this case it would be Novell .US.
QA is more than adherence to applicable ISO’s. I gather we take parts of IOS 90002-9001 for a software development environment.

When we have a QA Manager than Manages the Project – he should be the only one to allocate resources and expect them to be me!.
The whole working Model within Suse needs to be changed to a ‘Responsibility Model’. If you are a paid employee, and assigned a Bug to be resolved nnn, and fail to do so both; there would need to be great mitigating circumstances before termination of employment, and escorts from the building happen..

Jive as a Commercially Trained QA Manager, give him/her the support of Novell Management – change the culture to one of a Responsibility Model and lest fix more than the usual 20 bugs each week!

By: CA

CA — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:41:23 +0000

Forgive my cinercisim, but the official reply will probably be to ‘create a bug or find one in existence and vote for it’.
Last time I looked 11.2 had 1775 open bugs.
Of that number, and following the release of 11.3 many will be able to be solved in 11.3.
The practice of closing say, an 11.2 bug with the resolution of it being closed as fixed in 11.3 is common, however in my long years working in commercial development; this closure and resolution of fixed in 11.3 – is outrageous.
I suppose the universal problem is money. The current climate is not conducive to throwing a lot of money at a software development! Its difficult for all!
The only real impetus for change will come from the commercial reaction to Suse’s Enterprise products; as so many community folk are very disillusioned.
Now after ‘solving the problems of the world’ we can all sleep better; if for only just one night :-)

By: manchette

manchette — Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:33:50 +0000

Hi guys,

i know the team might be busy working on their own projects, or maybe on this project, but after comments it’d be nice to receive answers to the questions asked.

This meaning it’s still on purpose to comment or ask questions here.

If a better place to do so, please mention it ;)

thanks ;)