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	<title>Comments on: openSUSE Announce First 11.4 Development Milestone With Improved Package Management Performance, New XOrg, KDE and GNOME</title>
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		<title>By: menf</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-19218</link>
		<dc:creator>menf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[suse linux boshqaruv tizimida qanaqa kodlar ishlatiladi masalan windovs da camanda straka bor  suse linuxdachi umaman linuxdan farqli tamoni va xavfsizlik bo&#039;limlari haqida po&#039;chtamga biror malumot jo&#039;natsangiz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>suse linux boshqaruv tizimida qanaqa kodlar ishlatiladi masalan windovs da camanda straka bor  suse linuxdachi umaman linuxdan farqli tamoni va xavfsizlik bo&#8217;limlari haqida po&#8217;chtamga biror malumot jo&#8217;natsangiz</p>
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		<title>By: J.B.</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-19174</link>
		<dc:creator>J.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t login with Virtual-Box. Fist I get the message that the login has failed. Then I pressed CTRL+ALT+F1 (TTY) --&gt; ENTER --&gt; User: linux --&gt; passwd --&gt; ENTER (password does not exist) --&gt; Enter new password --&gt; press: CTRL+ALT+F7 --&gt; User linux and my new password.

The login works now, but after 2 or 3 seconds it switchs back to the login screen. wtf!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t login with Virtual-Box. Fist I get the message that the login has failed. Then I pressed CTRL+ALT+F1 (TTY) &#8211;&gt; ENTER &#8211;&gt; User: linux &#8211;&gt; passwd &#8211;&gt; ENTER (password does not exist) &#8211;&gt; Enter new password &#8211;&gt; press: CTRL+ALT+F7 &#8211;&gt; User linux and my new password.</p>
<p>The login works now, but after 2 or 3 seconds it switchs back to the login screen. wtf!</p>
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		<title>By: Det</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18790</link>
		<dc:creator>Det</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 06:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can change the password in another TTY (e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F1) with &quot;sudo passwd&quot;. Still unable to login with VMware, though, because of some crash (Milestone 2 64-bit).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can change the password in another TTY (e.g. Ctrl+Alt+F1) with &#8220;sudo passwd&#8221;. Still unable to login with VMware, though, because of some crash (Milestone 2 64-bit).</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fortune</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18776</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fortune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The failsafe USB key would of course load the relevant lvm and raid drivers before bringing up the system proper... :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The failsafe USB key would of course load the relevant lvm and raid drivers before bringing up the system proper&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fortune</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18775</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fortune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YaST could also offer a solution that installs grub2, but offers to create a grub1 bootloader on a CD or USB key so you can boot your system from that if it fails to work for you, while I&#039;m not generally a fan of such things, people who boot this &quot;failsafe USB key&quot; could automatically submit a list of their hardware to suse so it knows of which devices Grub2 doesn&#039;t like :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YaST could also offer a solution that installs grub2, but offers to create a grub1 bootloader on a CD or USB key so you can boot your system from that if it fails to work for you, while I&#8217;m not generally a fan of such things, people who boot this &#8220;failsafe USB key&#8221; could automatically submit a list of their hardware to suse so it knows of which devices Grub2 doesn&#8217;t like :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fortune</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18773</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fortune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the #grub team would know which devices it is incompatible with, and could supply such a list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the #grub team would know which devices it is incompatible with, and could supply such a list.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fortune</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18772</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fortune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction, I think the channel is just called #grub.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, I think the channel is just called #grub.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Fortune</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18771</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Fortune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Linux is Linux. I run grub2 on OpenSUSE and I did so with very few changes... I just tricked YaST into thinking it is still running legacy Grub and had Grub2 read  configuration from /etc/sysconfig because mosf of /etc/sysconfig and the Grub2 config configuration are really posix shell scripts, it&#039;s an easy deception to make on the system.

If you run grub2 &quot;stable&quot; you need to patch it to support symlinks with SuSE, the people in #grub2 on freenode IRC would be able to tell you where to get that patch.

If Grub2 has issues with older SCSI machines then perhaps Grub1 should be kept around unless Grub2 fixes those issues. Why not offer both options to install? It&#039;s not challenging, the challenging thing would be to detect the hardware Grub2 doesn&#039;t like and Grub1 will support OK since I know of no such list that exists, if such a list does, then just have YaST offer Grub2 for those it works fine on and not let it be selectable with a description of why for those devices it is incompatible with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linux is Linux. I run grub2 on OpenSUSE and I did so with very few changes&#8230; I just tricked YaST into thinking it is still running legacy Grub and had Grub2 read  configuration from /etc/sysconfig because mosf of /etc/sysconfig and the Grub2 config configuration are really posix shell scripts, it&#8217;s an easy deception to make on the system.</p>
<p>If you run grub2 &#8220;stable&#8221; you need to patch it to support symlinks with SuSE, the people in #grub2 on freenode IRC would be able to tell you where to get that patch.</p>
<p>If Grub2 has issues with older SCSI machines then perhaps Grub1 should be kept around unless Grub2 fixes those issues. Why not offer both options to install? It&#8217;s not challenging, the challenging thing would be to detect the hardware Grub2 doesn&#8217;t like and Grub1 will support OK since I know of no such list that exists, if such a list does, then just have YaST offer Grub2 for those it works fine on and not let it be selectable with a description of why for those devices it is incompatible with.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18693</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grub-2 has big issues on older SCSI machines.
OpenSuse is notable in not having this buggy device.
If you want this use Ubuntu and leave it there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grub-2 has big issues on older SCSI machines.<br />
OpenSuse is notable in not having this buggy device.<br />
If you want this use Ubuntu and leave it there.</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2010/09/02/opensuse-announce-first-11-4-development-milestone-with-improved-package-management-performance-new-xorg-kde-and-gnome/comment-page-1/#comment-18507</link>
		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s a kernel issue which happens to be hit by others as well.........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s a kernel issue which happens to be hit by others as well&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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