Comments on: openSUSE 12.1 Beta taking more time to become good

By: Andrea Cascio

Andrea Cascio — Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:08:27 +0000

We are a small software/consulting firm using openSUSE as a base for our customers’ servers. We have studied systemd carefully and found it unsuitable for server use.

Will openSUSE 12.1 still have an option for sysVinit instead of systemd, or should we start checking for other distros?

BTW, no flames, thanks. :)

Regards
Andrea Cascio
Nucleus srl

By: NachoGomez

NachoGomez — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:34:12 +0000

Is there a possibility to lighten openSUSE 12.1 a bit? When I check my system (openSUSE 11.4/KDE) just after booting it uses between 900MB to 1.3GB, and this is just passing the login screen, without running anything else.

That’s very annoying because I do a lot of Java development and as soon as I open Netbeans (just one project), soapUI (just one project) and a browser (just one tab) it starts using swap and the system becomes very unresponsive :s. If I have to debug an app using Tomcat, it gets even worst

By: SAFAD

SAFAD — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:30:55 +0000

lol….

By: lol

lol — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:41:23 +0000

Кому нужен этот линукс? Он не стабилен и игры на нем не идут. А все эти говно команды, которые прикручивают свои свистелки-перделки и обзывают их убунтами или дебианами, вообще смешны.

By: chucktr

chucktr — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:42:53 +0000

RainboxSally,

It sounds like you have some valid problems. However, you need to file a bug report in order to ge anything done. Here and in the Forum it is only news to the rest of us. In order to get the developers attention requires a bug number.

Take care,
Chuck

By: Jonathan_R

Jonathan_R — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:30:57 +0000

Unless packagekit can be associated with zypper I don’t see the need for it. I agree it’s a complete waste as it currently is. The concept is nice, but should be tied in with zypper.

By: rainbowsally

rainbowsally — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:56:07 +0000

One more thing… PackageKit is both annoying and unprofessional looking. It eats PIDs like crazy, updates too often, writes new things behind your back potentially destroying things somewhat randomly that you may be testing or have working by some hack or other.

And mount should check for hosts (ping) before trying to mount external nfs systems, etc. When mount hangs it hangs forever. (This occurs in Yast when setting up nfs clients, and probably elsewhere, especially if you are connecting to a dual boot computer.)

Whatever.

By: rainbowsally

rainbowsally — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 16:51:02 +0000

Also, someone pls. launch some KDE apps from a terminal and look a the error strings before you ship.

In suse 11.4, for example, open konsole, type in kate /etc/fstab as a normal user.

Whoa!

Try it as su. Won’t work at all. Then “export $(dbus-launch)” and try it again.

I expect 12.x to be beautiful, as is 11.x, but tighten this next one up, pls. I’d like to see another of the quality of 10.0 but the functionality of plasma, etc.

Also, the kdevelop template for creating a konqueror plugin has the wrong directories set in it for installation. For example, it puts something in kwebkit (or kweb) that isn’t even a directory. The directory name does not have the “k” prefix. The other name is kweb.rc or something. In any case it’s an rc file, not a directory.

But that’s minor compared to the problem of deleting objects before/after they are removed from a factory (causing leaks), permissions confusion that seems to hang the audio (or some other resource?) if you get errors as su… and these errors block forever so you can’t even log out.

You can do it.

And it’s worth the effort.

This thing really has tremendous potential, so much so, that I use it despite these problems.

Thanks!

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:13:02 +0000

Don’t be too happy. Systemd is great, but some stuff won’t work with it. Linux Containers (LXC) is one example :-) Better test before you switch.

By: vinoth

vinoth — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:45:29 +0000

November 11? omg.. am eagerly waiting for some good change in my desktop..