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	<title>Comments on: Get your package in Factory for 12.1!</title>
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		<title>By: jospoortvliet</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2011/09/27/get-your-package-in-factory-for-12-1/comment-page-1/#comment-34112</link>
		<dc:creator>jospoortvliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually there&#039;s a tool (OBS Generator) which can test a tarball and spit out the files you are talking about. But yeah, something more newbie-friendly would be very nice. It does need someone to develop it but I dunno about anyone who is/might be interested right now :(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually there&#8217;s a tool (OBS Generator) which can test a tarball and spit out the files you are talking about. But yeah, something more newbie-friendly would be very nice. It does need someone to develop it but I dunno about anyone who is/might be interested right now :(</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 06:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I looked into this too and OBS doesn&#039;t really help make a package. It&#039;s not too difficult to compile a package on your own machine. However, to create a package requires writing all sorts of configuration files in that accursed XML to the point where it&#039;s just slightly less difficult than coding the program you&#039;re trying to install!

Right now I&#039;m about to try two different pieces of software:
RUST
http://rust.sourceforge.net/faq.html

and PKGBUILD
http://rpm-pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/

that both seem able to create the package description file that OBS doesn&#039;t help at all with (all OBS really does is compile things). In theory one of these combined with OBS might make package building possible for mere mortals. This is the one area I&#039;ve found where Windows excels over Linux. In a different career I used to be involved in programming commercial software and there were many tools such as InstallShield and Inno Setup which really required no effort at all to set up a standard install. Software installation is one area where the Linux stereotype of arcane command line gibberish turning molehills into mountains seems to be true. ;-(

If one is interested in abandoning OBS, I&#039;ve found two other options:
Listaller
http://listaller.tenstral.net/

0Install
http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/why.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked into this too and OBS doesn&#8217;t really help make a package. It&#8217;s not too difficult to compile a package on your own machine. However, to create a package requires writing all sorts of configuration files in that accursed XML to the point where it&#8217;s just slightly less difficult than coding the program you&#8217;re trying to install!</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m about to try two different pieces of software:<br />
RUST<br />
<a href="http://rust.sourceforge.net/faq.html" rel="nofollow">http://rust.sourceforge.net/faq.html</a></p>
<p>and PKGBUILD<br />
<a href="http://rpm-pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://rpm-pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/</a></p>
<p>that both seem able to create the package description file that OBS doesn&#8217;t help at all with (all OBS really does is compile things). In theory one of these combined with OBS might make package building possible for mere mortals. This is the one area I&#8217;ve found where Windows excels over Linux. In a different career I used to be involved in programming commercial software and there were many tools such as InstallShield and Inno Setup which really required no effort at all to set up a standard install. Software installation is one area where the Linux stereotype of arcane command line gibberish turning molehills into mountains seems to be true. ;-(</p>
<p>If one is interested in abandoning OBS, I&#8217;ve found two other options:<br />
Listaller<br />
<a href="http://listaller.tenstral.net/" rel="nofollow">http://listaller.tenstral.net/</a></p>
<p>0Install<br />
<a href="http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/why.html" rel="nofollow">http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/why.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jdd</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2011/09/27/get-your-package-in-factory-for-12-1/comment-page-1/#comment-34054</link>
		<dc:creator>jdd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello,

Very good article, indeed!

That said I think we can makes this even better, targetting a slightly different part of the users.

I&#039;m sure we are a lot of people that from time to time compile themselve some crucial software. For example I could compile digiKam 2.1 on 11.4 without updating ked4.

I was said that using the Open Build Service is even simpler than compiling locally. THAT would be a good news. I, for example, can&#039;t make it to compile for my 32 bits netbook with my 64 bits desktop, so that I had to install all the compile stuff on the netbook and wait forever to have the result.

Is this easy on OBS?

If so, a article explaining how to get an OBS account and setup a compile envieonment, building the software as rpm and downloading locally only after that would be very usefull for me, and certainly others. And in the mean time the result will be available for anybody.

Is all this possible? how?
thanks
jdd]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Very good article, indeed!</p>
<p>That said I think we can makes this even better, targetting a slightly different part of the users.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure we are a lot of people that from time to time compile themselve some crucial software. For example I could compile digiKam 2.1 on 11.4 without updating ked4.</p>
<p>I was said that using the Open Build Service is even simpler than compiling locally. THAT would be a good news. I, for example, can&#8217;t make it to compile for my 32 bits netbook with my 64 bits desktop, so that I had to install all the compile stuff on the netbook and wait forever to have the result.</p>
<p>Is this easy on OBS?</p>
<p>If so, a article explaining how to get an OBS account and setup a compile envieonment, building the software as rpm and downloading locally only after that would be very usefull for me, and certainly others. And in the mean time the result will be available for anybody.</p>
<p>Is all this possible? how?<br />
thanks<br />
jdd</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno Gerz</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2011/09/27/get-your-package-in-factory-for-12-1/comment-page-1/#comment-34044</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno Gerz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be fine to see &quot;faust&quot;, a audio stream processing language in opensuse.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/faudiostream/
http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=faust   (version 0.9.30)

But I think it`s not a good idea to create a new repository for it.
I`m not able to add all i want in openstudio, because there is a 30 repository limit :-(
(workaround: own private repository to combine existing repositories)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be fine to see &#8220;faust&#8221;, a audio stream processing language in opensuse.</p>
<p><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/faudiostream/" rel="nofollow">http://sourceforge.net/projects/faudiostream/</a><br />
<a href="http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=faust" rel="nofollow">http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=faust</a>   (version 0.9.30)</p>
<p>But I think it`s not a good idea to create a new repository for it.<br />
I`m not able to add all i want in openstudio, because there is a 30 repository limit :-(<br />
(workaround: own private repository to combine existing repositories)</p>
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