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openSUSE 12.1: All Green!

November 16th, 2011 by

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It is November 16, 2011 and our mirrors have synced. Time to present to you: openSUSE 12.1! This release represents more than eight months of work by our international community and brings you the best Free Software has to offer. Awesome improvements include the latest GNOME 3.2 desktop as well as the newest from KDE, XFCE and LXDE; your ownCloud made easy with mirall; Snapper-shots of your file system; and much, much more.

Desktops

openSUSE 12.1 comes with the new GNOME Shell 3.2. We presented you with a taste of GNOME Shell on openSUSE 11.4. Since then, many bugs have been squashed and numerous small improvements have made life on the Shell more comfortable. Notifications are much nicer, you can now configure your online accounts in one place and Shell handles multiple-screen setups better.

Among the features is color management, something GNOME shares with KDE where openSUSE is the first to integrate the Oyranos color management system. Also new from KDE is Apper, an easier-to-use PackageKit front end.

ownCloud integrating with the local calendar

Cloud things

It is 2011, and most of us use ‘cloud’ technology like having our files on Dropbox, friends on Facebook and music on Spotify. But these technologies are arguably dangerous from a security and privacy point of view. While not solving all problems yet, ownCloud aims to bring these services back under your control.

openSUSE is the first Linux distribution to support ownCloud with its own unique mirall desktop integration. For end users, mirall makes the difference between thinking that ownCloud is interesting and being able to actually use it. Read about mirall and ownCloud in our documentation to find out why!

For more demanding use cases in the small business area, our Virtualization and Cloud repository offers the latest versions of Eucalyptus, OpenNebula and OpenStack for openSUSE 12.1. And we support all the virtualization technologies including Xen 4.1, KVM and VirtualBox which can be managed with the latest virt-manager and open-vm-tools.

SUSE Studio users can already build unique versions of openSUSE 12.1, with custom package selections, artwork, scripts, etc. that can be deployed directly to Amazon EC2 or onto a variety of other cloud platforms.
Snapper in action

Under the hood

openSUSE 12.1 includes Snapper, a new and unique tool that employs the snapshot functionality in btrfs to allow you to view older versions of files and revert changes. The integration of Snapper into the zypper package manager allows roll back of system updates and configuration changes.

openSUSE is also the first major distribution to ship the Go programming language, Google’s new open development language. Go is a fast, easy-to-use language that helps programmers handle multi-core, networked machines with the convenience of garbage collection and run-time reflection.

Keep tumblin’ and rollin’!

openSUSE 12.1 can of course also move to Tumbleweed, our cutting-edge rolling release repo which contains the latest stable versions of all software. Tumbleweed lessens the significance and change impact of major releases by updating systems continuously. Existing Tumbleweed users will have to make a small change to their repositories to stay current. For future releases of openSUSE this won’t be needed anymore.

Go and have a lot of fun!

“While the big updates include Snapper, systemd and ownCloud, there are also many smaller enhancements like the improvements to YaST or the work on zypper. And that is only what our own community did,”

said Bryen Yunahsko, member of the openSUSE Board.

“We’re standing on the shoulders of the gigantic open source community. I would not be surprised if openSUSE’s latest update has over 300,000 improvements that resulted from efforts in the open source community.”

For more details about the latest and greatest in openSUSE 12.1 visit opensuse.org/12.1 and read our extensive Product Highlights! If you want, go and download it right away from our mirrors.

Have a lot of fun!

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242 Responses to “openSUSE 12.1: All Green!”

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  2. posdef

    Cannot stress how deeply disappointed I am with the newer desktop managers!!!!

    I have to say I never got to test your actual work on 12.1 since I could not bear with the desktop environments (tried both KDE and GNOME3 live cds). I am amazed by how restrictive GNOME has become, and how infuriatingly counter-intuitive a majority of the changes are. It’s like they were trying to alienate people who loved and cherished all the customization potential gnome 2.x had. Gnome 3 on the other hand seems to have been aimed at people who want to have something shiny and blinky that “looks cool”, much like gummi bears sadly..

    I was really looking forward to take 12.1 for a test-ride but I guess I am gonna have to wait until there is a live cd for XFCE. Hope the packages for 11.3 stay updated for a while, I’d hate to leave suse after so many years..

    • marinegundoctor

      @posdef
      Just make your own XCFE Live CD in the studio!

    • I agree. 11.x was not configurable. 12.x I can’t even close the windows or move them. and opensuse is the only linux you can install on old boxen. mint debian and fedora just crash a lot or just don’t work (basic things like printing clash with the firewall). so right now I am pretty unhappy with the state of linux as a desktop OS. I have not tried ubuntu yet or mint’s flavor of ubuntu.

      I am looking for
      – the ability for average (maybe semi-uneducated) joe to walk up and use it without a manual or very much instruction – like an elderly person. use mail, browse the web, write documents, print. allow advanced options for advanced people.
      – the ability for average joe to add a printer and configure the printer the way they like it.
      – the ability for average joe to setup wifi or other networking with DHCP or even a static IP without a lot of hassle. in fact, it should set itself up. I should be able to browse wireless networks and provide a passkey, or, if mmy SSID is not broadcasted, I should have the option to manually enter the parameters in. and how about this: auto-add or button to detect usb wireless devices like bluetooth and wifi!
      – ease to mount and dismount usb devices.

      a desktop OS should NOT be hard to use, it should be easy. at least it shouldn’t be hard to use. if it’s not intuitive, get rid of it.

      • Ubuntu is not that better. Unity sucks almost much as Gnome 3.

        If I never had used Gnome 2 from OpenSUSE 11.4, *maybe* I could use it. But now?

        I would go to Debian instead.

    • doggy.dangerous

      I agree. I have given Suse to many chances already. 10.3 was O.K. I could actually configure it to do what I wanted. Since then every release has become crappier and crappier.
      Another thing… When people are having a hard time with it they just get insulted buy the support team. Let me just say to the Suse team “F@#$% you! You live in your own world and haver no idea how to produce usable software. There is nothing wrong with Linux operating systems. Ubuntu, Puppy, Fedora, Backtrack etc… all rock! I’m sticking with Ubuntu because it works. The fact of the matter is I solely use Ubuntu now. Why? First, it works. Second, I don’t get insulted and accused of being too stupid to read if I do have trouble with something (which is rare because it works!). Third, Ubuntu runs fast whereas Suse just bounces a ball for an hour until you get so pissed you just give up on trying to do anything.
      Let’s recap… Suse sucks…The support sucks…Every release just gets worse…Every other linux system gets better with every release…Just use Ubuntu and you will be happy.

      • posdef

        I think what you are saying is neither fair nor constructive. If you just want to go on and rant about how much a distro is better than another, fine there are places to do that like forums and such. But insulting people for not helping you the way you want to be helped, when they are providing an fully functional OS is nothing I can support. I really think you should consider changing your attitude towards people and open source community.

  3. Z-Man

    I just got into linux last year when I had too much free time recovering from back surgery. Linux is amazing and all of you opensource engineers, testers, hackers, and code-writers are special people – you are creating the New Order of the IT world. The only thing that makes me sad is Gnome 3 – how I hates it. God, I hates it. Please, can you guys and girls bring back the Gnome 2 or make an official spin of it – anything – please.

  4. James

    In the past, it was easy to set up Java the way I wanted. With 12.1, it is more difficult. In the past, I simply used the YaST software manager to choose either Java from OpenJDK or Java from Sun. I chose Java from Sun.

    I have some software that doesn’t work well under OpenJDK. I don’t want OpenJDK on my system. Neither do I want Oracle Java 1.7 at this time because I use software with sounds that Java 1.7 won’t handle. I downloaded the RPM file for Sun’s Java 1.6.0_29. It put it on my system, but OpenSuSE makes GNU libgcj Java 1.5 the default. I can’t seem to get rid of it!!

  5. Henk

    Is there a possibility to use Open Sus for a home server?

    Regards
    Henk

  6. Roy

    12.1 – Completely unstable and unusable system for desktop. Upgraded from 11.4 and boom! My Folders with chinese names, Gnome shell constantly rebooting after every action on desktop, settings are not saving – I tried 3 times change default language on Russian – no result. Now I force switch to Gnome Classic – fonts are unusable, even english. After I install FGLRX friver for ATI card – menus are unreadable…. In VMWARE virtual machine all was great – but on workstaton isnt. Dont use this 12.1 if You are not profi.

  7. ashish awasthi

    Well,my journey with Linux began in 2008,with Ubuntu 8.10.The intention was
    a)To get rid of MS Windows(as Vista sucked big time and Win-7 was not in the scene).
    b)To project my self cooler and different in front of my friends(my life sucked big time then and Linux was my way of redemption).
    c)To quench and disperse my geeky disposition.
    I can remember how I succumbed and resurfaced cyclically in every inch of my journey with Linux initially.Right from playing an innocent “non-free” mp3 to connecting to wifi signals which I very much paid for.The inability of my friends to properly use comp gave me the pleasure of achievement which was pretty much missing from my life.And that all happened in the guise of “Software Freedom” and “Source-morality”.The dark terminal became my friend and “sudo su” my mantra.I went ahead and befriended the mighty Slackware and tamed the Gentoo.I sailed from the shores of depression to the bay of masochism.So much so that i stopped calling Ubuntu/Suse etc a linux and flanged the wallpaper boasting “I see dead distros.”
    But this aimless maneuver was caught in the rough sea when I started pursuing my real goals and aspirations,only to realize that,Linux,my tamed bitch was interrupting my efforts and consuming my valuable time.It turned out to be an infinite loop of new problems and bugs and blogs and reading.And mind it,I am not a naive now.Then one day I forsake it for the sake of better future.I installed a copy of Windows and finally breathe in the air of simplicity and automation.And that my friend is called the “Software Freedom”.
    Linux is for developers,system administrators and passionate coders.If you are none of them,then I have got some suggestion for you>>>>”GET SOME LIFE GUYS…”

    • Cyryl

      You, sir…need to seek PROFESSIONAL HELP.

      You clearly don’t have a clue as to what Linux is really about. It’s not only for devlopers, sysadmins, etc… It’s certainly NOT just for looking cool to your friends. That kind of thinking makes you a bit of an asshole, actually.

      In all seriousness… If that is how you think then perhaps you should stick with Windows instead. We really don’t need that kind of mindset lurking about in the Linux community.

      But as I said… It is obvious that you need some kind of mental help.

      • Skanda

        Cyryl you sound like an emotional little kid; quotes for you like:

        “We really don’t need that kind of mindset lurking about in the Linux community.”

        I mean really! Are you in high-school? are you into cliquish clubs? This is really childish.

        Mr. Ashish Awashi seems to be making a really legitimate point. Despite the fact that I hate Windows for the low quality bloatware it is, and also due to the criminal nature in which Microsoft acquired its near monopoly (I’ve worked in Unix / Linux/Open Systems for over 20 years). I’ve fired people for trying to push windows into mission critical environments (if someone doesn’t understand that the Blue Screen of Death is bad thing then they must be willfully incompetent).

        I been accused of being a Unix/Linux fanatic (many times), yet even I am finding myself starting to HATE Linux and Suse.

        Why? because they are doing a sloppy job of bullet-proofing their releases before issuing the final cut. The fact is a linux distribution is NOT FREE if I or my staff spend multiple man-days screwing around trying to get the latest Suse to perform just basic functionality on our laptops/desktops; its much cheaper for me to pay microsoft the $50 (built in windows license on a new system) to get a system that at performs the basic functionalities. This version of Suse doesn’t support many generic sound chips (i.e. Intel HD with Realtek 861 – deployed in millions of systems), it’s printer configuration is not properly tested where even though you have all printer drivers installed, when you try to add an LPD printer for the 1st time none of the drivers show up, however, the second time you do it, using a different menu path, they suddenly do show up (because some developer didn’t do his job and run a full ATP). Now international secondary languages don’t work either; i.e. go into Yast and try to add second languages (like french or spanish), Yast pretends like the language modules have been added, but guess what, neither KDE nor gnome see them. Add a Wifi connection and enter the passcode, great everything works, login a second time and try to connect and the passcode is gone, reenter the passcode, and now the passcode finally seems to persist so that on subsequent logins, your WPA Wifi connects automatically; but why the failure on the initial attempt? Ans: because of POOR testing by packagers or developers.

        The fact is it’s getting worse and worse with every suse release. It seems to me and others that the folks that create releases for opensuse seem to be more focused on their own interests (i.e. the latest and greatest code) than the interests of the regular user community who want to use their computer as TOOL to get work done, not as assembly-set hobby like building your own car.

        I’ve waste thousands of dollars in wasted time resolving these sloppy errors, now I’m being forced to consider the previously unthinkable, converting many of our PCs to Windows. The poor testing of basic functionality is starting to really make me wonder if Novell is really in bed with Microsoft, making the personal computing linux experience so expensive that we forced to consider going back to microsoft.

        • Fritz

          I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, similar issues occur with other Linux distributions. I recommended a friend his new laptop and advised him to install Linux. I was embarrassed when I heard that first, the volume control icon, then the complete panel suddenly disappeared from his desktop. The same Wi-Fi problems as previously described occured too. My friend is a beginner and can’t tell where the problems originate from, and I can only imagine his frustration. Like I said, I feel embarrassed recommending something that is so unpredictable.

          • Skanda

            Thank you Fritz,

            I’m glad you mentioned embarrassment, because that’s exactly what happens to me when I show a client, staff, friends or family a suse linux based system and watch the system display inconsistent behaviour (worse than M$-Windoze). I feel really let down that I sing the praises of Linux (and Suse) performance and stability and then watch suse 12.1 destabilize or fail to provide sound or simple ALPS mousepad functionality (simple things to test for [you'd think?]). Or watch the system lock up after coming out of hibernation because of some kind of problem with Intel Wifi drivers (I mean come-on! you can’t get more generic a system than one with Intel Wifi, Intel motherboard, ALPS mousepad and mediocre Intel graphics [open-source driver!]) if such a generic motherboard will have problems what-of more complex/higher-end systems.

            While I realize other distributions may have similar issues, I’ve noticed that they tend to be a lot more cautious with deploying the latest software packages (for example the latest KDE); either they test more thoroughly or they hold back including the ‘bleeding-edge’ versions of packages in their next distro release. (remember the KDE4 debacle).

            The opensuse team seem to getting more and more aggressive (reckless?) with a bias towards going for the latest package version and seem to spend less resources/time fully testing or beta’ing. If I want a bleeding edge Linux I’ll go for Gentoo-thank-you; what I expect from a distro backed by a fortune 500 company like Novell is a little more bias towards reliability, basic functionality and professionalism (not hobbiest hackware). I’m really surprised that opensuse seems to be trying to compete in the same space as Gentoo when it comes to latest revisions of any package or kernel.

            Suse and Redhat are supposed to be professional variants of linux; playware/simpletonware is Ubuntu and techware is Gentoo (an excellent. distro btw). I didn’t think suse was trying to go for the playware/techware niche.

    • Jim

      Wow ! You’ve described it perfectly. I’ll bet 100 people have read this and seen the light that you saw.

    • Noel

      Other Fruit, I will venture that your choice of ‘fruit’ is sour grapes. Be silent and use that time to educate yourself. There is ALWAYS help available for Linux distro issues on that distros website. ALWAYS. NEVER confuse your lack of ability to seek out help with the absense of that help. Swallow your pride, admit your own shortcomings, and you might just learn something valuable and new

    • rebelheart

      right you are ashish! and i started with slackware back in 1986. i thought then that linux would improve over time but the only thing that improved is the kernel. user experience still tastes tacky.

      take the fonts. why are the fonts so humongous!? you ask that question in a linux forum/channel/chat and you’ll get RTFM/”you get what you paid for” rhetorics. i mean is there anyone in the driver’s seat when it comes to user experience in linux?

      the desktop is what the ordinary users see and until someone in the linux community makes an effort to enhance the user experience on the desktop, linux will remain a hobbyist OS.

    • Rohit

      hi Ashish Awasthi.

      I truly accept your words. Linux these days are turning out to be shit. I am not specific to one distro or open suse. Since I myself tried many and used few extensively. I think I try each day finding out new linux distro which suits me. But apart from Ubuntu, there are no match. Even ubuntu could reach my 10% expectation. And after working on them for more than enough I moved back to Windows. Because of simplicity to do anything and know what I am doing. Simple works great. LInux boasts in each of their distros either you can call marketing of their product. But this is turning junk. It all started with a thought of hardware support ideas which Linux provides. But linux is far from that notion now. Each time getting to their support team to find out which software fit your hardware is a big “No” as any software company would. This idea is idiotic. Indeed I am software engineer as well. Drag and drop your app, and it works, don’t you think that should have been Linux distro developers thoughts should have been. Even connecting to a network. Even now to connect to internet needs a hell lot of things to be made. And if not just after that installation, flash starts annoying your play on it. And playing any movies on any linux distros seams we are not entered to entertain ourselves, want to entertain distros trying to find out plugins to get things done. And their comes a Gnome, which says he look left, you can see all your installed apps and folders. Why I need that. And telling me to search and do a hide and seek to find my apps. That seams funny. Because when people are new to any os, they are sure what to do, or not knowing what apps to use. Now what the hell to find on search term instead. This is called common sense. people come on to any distro not to keep playing with workspace, or toggling kind of effects. It is more or less like ads, which we skip when real work comes into picture. This is simple funda, simple to install, one click and it installs as desired that is enough to grab attention. Any software mind you. From system to apps. Just put it across a folder and open it and start working. That thing works great than all their so called developer’s distro ads. Or even system up-gradation. Connection your cable, and it detects and give you the software which establish the network based on your hardware. Don’t these guys think that catches the idea.

      We all need you guys to think and do and more than just work like a sales persons or ad guys. We love you guys, but use it to do things great. I would better say this to Mark Shuttleworth. Atleast he knows what I mean here, and he is the only one who can change something. Hope we get more these guys who think beyond what he developed and do something which shocks Windows.

  8. rolltide101x

    Linux is for anyone willing to learn something new. Its no more difficult to use than Windows it just has a different style of doing things. Overall Linux is better than Windows in every since of the word for anyone

  9. ashish

    Wow…there came a reply quicker than most of the linux forums…Cyryl dear..u did’nt quite understand me.My last linux desktop was gentoo on flux-box.So I was so over the cool-looks-desktop-effects and show-off phase.
    I left linux as it hindered my real efforts.I lately got into animation and designing,and I could not believe how Linux let me down with numerous never ending issues.Flash is horrible,to begin with.Professional recording instruments and state of art speakers dont perform the way they should unless you debug and build the Alsa from scratch.Blender and GIMP are so dwarfed by Adobe and Maya in terms of technology,efficiency and class.Few of my very expensive hardwares were rendered useless as the manufacture care less to support it “openly” for which I have to develop its driver from the exe file.A projector once gave me a miniature resolution on the curtain and I lost 35 mins fixing it before I could give my final presentation.Every time I tried to capture internet from GPRS,I have to configure KPPP or wvdial……And because of the sucky dependence of internet to install software,I have to create a customized linux for my friends with no internet access.And I can go on and on and on….
    Its not that I didnt know to solve my OS problems,as a matter of fact I loved them because I had no real life of my own,and linux gave me pseudo challenges which made me feel like an achiever.I mean,I would have loved to continue in that lane if I were a passionate coder,system administrator or a developer.But as a person pursuing a non-computer-science-goal,(in my case,a musician and an animation designer),I want a fully automatic system and an omnipotent software.Why the hell should I worry whats going on behind the curtains?If so,then what the hell software designers are for.In this busy world of productivity,cut throat competition and computer dependence,I think,the linux Os developers should infuse some reasonableness in their efforts rather than compete with each other in pacing up their release cycle.”Unity” should come to the Linux fraternity rather than the window manager.
    Linux is “pure awesomeness” in server arena but for regular desktop usage,I think it has still not arrived yet.Miles to go before it can even afford to catch a nap.
    So my dear friend,its time to think who needs the help.

    • A lot of what you are saying makes sense but a lot doesn’t. For instance how can someone try almost every major Linux distro and forget to notice that Linux is not for graphic designers? Its one of the most basic facts about Linux that gamers and graphic designers aren’t catered to. How can you not know that and yet know so much else?

      Seems like you wasted your time trying out all those distros. Even us developers and sys admins generally pick one distro and stick to it. Graphic designers and gamers should stick to Windows.

  10. ashish

    And mind it,I am not some lurker in a linux community.Besides being a chronic linux lover myself,I have the introduced and installed the OS in 100’s of computers,catering to a varieties of needs of different users in my engineering college.
    Through this mighty platform of OpenSuse,I wish to forward my request to the developers to try and raise standards of this enchanting Operating system in terms of making it bug free and more automatic(i.e. less terminal dependent to the end user )rather than exhausting your efforts in rapid releases and flashy interfaces.
    I can remember how I lost 180GB movie collection only to discover that data retrieval softwares for linux are so ordinary with primitive console based interfaces,too complicated to be deciphered by some normal user.After some 40 long hours only 14 movies came back and that too in overinflated size with their generic codecs embedding(some movies got inflated to 14 GB and were not even playing.).Hopelessly I seek the help of some high end windows software,ran it on Virtual box,converted my partition into raw format(even then I did not convert it to NTFS!)and mounted it to a network location.To my surprise,I was back with most of my lost data!
    All I am saying that I wish a bright future of Linux on a general desktop.
    Compiz got dead and then suddenly rose to a bug tree.Kwin is still so quivery on intel cards as it was ages before.Same is the story of Flash.Wifi is like a never ending problem and data retrieval is next to impossible for an ordinary user…..Ubuntu digressed from its intentions and succumbed to a worthless interface while OpenSuse lost its charisma and became too buggy.Gentoo,Slackware and FreeBSD are either for developers or for unemployed.Mandriva’s installer has still got the age old bug that wipes out the hard disk and Debian still keeps kde 4.4 in its testing repository!!Burst your bubble and give me a break….
    Remember what a good leadership can do to a linux>>>>It can metamorphose it to Macintosh(a BSD variant).
    I will come back to Linux after my current quest and hope to see it competing MS or MAC.

    • RC

      Sorry to tell you this, but I’m running 100% Linux systems gentoo, arch, and suse. With the right hardware/software in harmony, I do everything… But I won’t lie it requires some good old elbow grease of labor! Linux/Unix User Good luck to you Friend.

  11. I am a Linux lover and have been very impressed by the likes of Open SUSE 10. But this version was an utter disappointment due to the UI. Its crap. Fallback mode is highly recommended.

  12. name

    I have 11.3 running since so many years now and that is very good. What i like about 10.x to 11.x are the simple behaviour of menus which over a period of hours can keep life simple when too many windows need to be managed even over days of working and also the webcamera light stays off on this dell vostro 1014 laptop which was something of an issue in 11.4 but is okay (fixed in 12.1 with webcam light being put on to minimum intensity so that does not hit on the eyes).
    About 12.1 the mobile internet usb cdma device works very well and is set up instantly (mts blaze model in india region) While 12.1 keeps looking good at times when even the software may not be the most required tool at that instance 11.3 makes life simplicstic with features like simple menus and custimizable icons on the desktop and another concern that has’nt been addressed happens to be the problem of video recording with the webcam which freezes and runs in frames This runs in 11.3 and 12.1 also.

  13. Kevin

    Might I make a suggestion that we seem to have all forgotten. It’s an old adage I picked up from my days of messing about with Windows. And yes I am a professional system engineer so I’m not a newby at anything.

    The adage goes like this….

    “Never, ever, Never rely on the first release of any thing. No matter what it is or who makes it.”

    Opensuse is 12.1 is a first release of a operating system. I’m waiting for 12.2 before attempting to get this to work. Linux distros, due to their growing complexity are becoming more and more susceptable to the initial release “bug syndrome” from the windows world.

    • posdef

      Well said, Kevin. However the “first release” syndrome you mention has not been this severe in OpenSuSE before, IMHO. I have always seen SuSE with somewhat late but ironclad updates, which sadly doesn’t fit too well with what I read/hear/see about 12.1 version.

      Besides I think a majority of the complaints are due the new UI which is imposed on people, not only by the developers of OpenSuSE, of course, but also (and primarily) by the developers of Gnome. That being said, I really don’t like when people just complain and do not propose a solution themselves, and I’d hate the irony of being in that situation myself. I have lately been testing out a couple of other distros and I have to say I really like the idea that developers of Mint have done, providing a highly-customized Gnome3 as well as a fallback AND a gnome2-fork. Talk about giving options to the users… Something like that would have been nice to see in 12.1

  14. Ewerton

    I downloaded and installed. They did an excellent job. I really enjoyed the Opensuse 12.1 Congratulations.

  15. turbochargedcobra97

    I was very impressed with the new ui, however was very buggy and didnt feel like totally ready for a actual release. Hopefully 12.2 will fix some of these issues. Other than that well done.

  16. name

    Installed and am happy with 12.1

  17. Bob

    I have been an OpenSuSE user since the late 90’s (pre-Novell days). I fully appreciate the contribution that Novell has provided to the community. I’ve also enjoyed many years of top notch functionalities created by many bright independent contributors worldwide.

    My forthright assessment is that the new Gnome 3 GUI is modern looking, and perhaps designed more for the portable devices. I applaud the forward minded efforts. However, the downfall lies in the many steps backwards for the power users. Bring back the power user functionalities! The Gnome 3 interface is seriously insufficient, incomplete and an insult to the power users. Suggestion: Fix or skip Gnome 3, and go onto Gnome 4 or resurrect Gnome 2. Anything outside of those options I fear will leave a migration of many great people from a once great desktop management system. Best wishes!

  18. Sparky

    I want to purchase the new opensuse 12.1 but can’t find it in the box in english
    just see the german type, I used to buy it at Frys electronics, Thanks

    • Will

      Sparky, I hope you realise that OpenSUSE 12.1 (or any version for that matter) is free. I suspect you might be joking but I thought I would put that out there.

      If you want to buy it so you simply have the disc, I suggest burning the ISO to a DVD and keeping it somewhere safe.

  19. someone

    Did you ever f****** pay for the development of GNU/Linux? If you did, go ahead rant just like you did to Microsoft or Apple. If you don’t, better keep your mouth shut and ask bout solution of your problems to support forum politely.

    I bet Microsoft and Apple didn’t even answer your rant. This is a word from long time newbie and I never ever said that I’m expert.

  20. Gnome3 sucks! please fix to gnome2!!!!

  21. Andrew

    If you don’t like GNOME, you have a choice: Use KDE, for example. You can install it using the 12.1 DVD. I’m not a big GNOME fan so I’m back to openSUSE (after nearly two years with Kubutnu) with KDE. Love it. Thank you.

  22. Anonymous

    I reinstalled 11.4. Suse should call this what it is, 12.0. Yes, Dot Zero.

    The 3.x kernel as configured is not ready for this distro. The systemd SySV replacement is at fetus maturity and throwing errors, cosmetic or otherwise. My boot time on RAID 10 SSD’s went from 5 seconds to 2 minutes. It kept probing the PCI-E slots over and over and over again.

    This release is broke d1ck. And to you people that don’t understand why people complain, it’s because it’s not called X.0. It’s 12.1. Which implies stability. Second, we use Operating Systems to Operate things. This doesn’t do that. It’s very simple.

    If I wanted to roll my own from Patrick Volkerdinkerspank’s hard drive, I would do that. But I use distributions because I work during the day and some nights- as a Linux Systems Administrator. I don’t have time to build your OS for you.

  23. i downloaded and installed but it cant running properly

  24. OtherFruit

    All of you…
    (it might come as a shock)

    If you havent’t payed for it YOU NOT THE CUSTOMER!
    (that, I guess, is some customer from Novell)

    You’re just testers who are yelling that their problem should be fixed first.

    Wake up! and make your own.
    Or stop complaining, submit your problem and keep on testing.

  25. latomicien

    Hello,

    good 2012 years !

    it’s impossible to install with live CD of the news’paper “linux pratique”
    on my intel I5 sandy bridge with mother boad zotac H 67 ITX Wifi. I have not pci-e video card because sandy bridge has HD3000 GPU in the chip (why spend more if i don’t use super game !). I have kernel panic

    My machine is not connected to internet (small village without connexion in mountain). Is it possible to have a good open suse distribution which work on my small computer ?

    Bests regards

  26. x4dr1th

    Oh my,

    Iatomicien, I don’t think there is any distribution right now that would work well without some sort of internet connection. That is, at least until you can figure out all the hardware issues and grab all the appropriate packages.

    Good luck to you,

    Happy End of Days…

  27. lol

    fap fap fap fap²

  28. I have installed 12.1 at home, I use it to run Windows virtual computers, these are old computers, scrapped hardware and I keep them as virtual machines as “museum”. I use XEN that is part of OpenSuse to run my old Windows. XEN is stable and installation was smooth, I found no bugs.

  29. vivek

    The devel packages doesn’t contain .a(library for link in c source) file instead contains .so(library for link in binaries)
    a little example of what I observed
    libxyz rpm haves libxyz.so.1(not same as the devel as having .1)
    libxyz-devel rpm have libxyz.so(and its not able to be linked by make file)

    and few have .a not all
    so what I do I get

    undefined reference to “dashdash function”
    ??

    please help

  30. cf

    linux could be anything and everything that windows is, just in a different way,but first developers, licence issues have to look to the real matter
    of supplying the user with what they want, not what linux will make these
    companies loose because of making software for it.

    when companies start producing real useful softwares for linux,
    people will actually switch to it!

  31. Glen Barney

    Opensuse 12.1 failed for me.

    Tried to do a stock install from 12.1 DVD.

    After first reboot, system hung at “Emergency Mode”, wanted a Ctrl-D to continue.

    After applying online updates, install system died, left server running on a single console shell. Wouldn’t reboot, wouldn’t continue install. Just sat there at a shell, and wouldn’t go any farther.

    I’ve been doing OpenSuse installs since before version 8.

    To have such basic failures in a default installation path is really unacceptable.

  32. frits vd laan

    I have installed suse 12.1 on my laptop both Gnome 3 and KDE and as a former Gnome user I switched to KDE instead because of the user unfriendly un-customizeble gnome desktop.
    The KDE however works fine.
    On my PC 12.1 trouble all the way. no sound, real problems installing my printer so I installed 11.4 with Gnome 2.x Very userfrienly. Both soundcard and printer where recognised inmediately

    frits

  33. JD Ross

    I have installed SUSE 12.1 on my desktop with KDE and have no sound and after rebooting I got this message quoted below, with which I don’t know WHAT to do. I’d apreciate greatly and help.

    “GNU GRUP version 0.97 (639K lower / 3078784K upper memory)
    [Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists
    possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
    completions of a device/filename.]
    Grub> “

  34. mcrad66

    Good day to all of you ~

    Im not one to rant much about open source software, as its just that…open source, not a paid for, focused development – but i will say sometimes the coders who do the initial work before releasing to the community need a kick in the pants to get re-focused. Sometimes i think these folks are ADD and just do this open source coding as a hobby without the full attention and tracking needed to do good coding. *sigh*

    That being said…ive used Linux since the release of the SysV and Berkley kernels 1.x. Each succession of development has gotten more user friendly and “intuative”, though occasionally backtracking, as it appears has happened with this current 12.x suse release. The biggest issue ive seen with all the releases is hardware compatibility (overall – there are other software issues as well, but in the grand scheme of things). Drivers have always been an issue ive had to deal with, and once those issues were resolved, most of the software seemed to work – minus the regular hiccups, like network configuration and sound. Wine has come a long ways in its development, and ive found with some tweaking, i can run many microjunk programs in my linux environment.

    Are there headaches up front to get linux set up? yes. but does it break or corrupt itself once working? NO! I have an early redhat system that i got all the bugs worked out of, that i use for a file server. I havent touched it or had to reboot it in 5 years. This is the true power behind Linux / Unix. Once its set up to do what you want it to do, it will keep doing that without fail until the hardware gives out. Winjunk, theres no way. Its inherently self corrupting and security is an afterthought.

    I dispise the hours needed, as many other admins on this forum have stated, to get a distro set up and functioning as advertised….but i garantee, once set up, you wont have to mess with it anymore.

    Let me also mention to you gamers, musicians and graphic arts people…i play Wow on my suse 11.1 system via wine..and it works great. the best software used out there for musicians and graphic arts is coded in unix. In fact, the high end graphic arts like Pixar use Silicon Graphics machines with Unix operating systems because those are the only combinations that will run the processes necessary to do all the full motion animation they do. Norad uses Silicon Graphics with Unix to track orbital junk, and monitor the skies for missiles.

    Unix/ linux is a pain for desktop users who want something functional out of the box that is…for lack of a better term…tolerant. Youre all unix/ linux enthusiasts, so keep the faith! It will get better. It has so far, with a few backsteps, but it will continue forward.

    Im a big fan of the Solaris CDE environment myself, btw…next to that KDE…i cant stand Gnome..lol (just my 2cp on that!)

    Happy code fixing! :D

  35. mounaam

    I can’t install Linux Suse 12.1 in P4P800-vm PC, perhaps VGA Driver, I can install to switch to console and PC break!.
    T.
    mn

  36. cranky_gnome_3_user

    Holy cow after after being happy with opensuse for years! I can’t stress how much I *hate* the new desktop. I repeat *hate*

    1) contra- productive
    2) damm you for no giving the chance to roll-back as other distros to gnome-‘classic’ 2 look-alike/ fallback what your ever you want to call it .
    3) _unstable_
    4) hello………… C O M P I Z ……………………..

    Your former user, and former opensuse preacher .

  37. cranky_gnome_3_user

    sorry for coming back..

    but I haven’t release my anger yet ..

    I HATE 12.1 ___________________ you damm gnome 3 POS.

    yes, it sounds like a kid rant, but you guys let me down..

  38. jlambrec

    I had 11.4 running fine on two different computers running with Intel Core Quad processors (Stryker and Biostar motherboards).
    With 12.1, I have experienced some hangs on the Biostar based machine despite trying to update to the latest revs from download.opensuse.org/repositories/.
    Xen could not connect to Dom-0 until updated to the latest rev from the Virtualization repository (but still no sound on the virtual machine other than Dom-0).
    In a nutshell, 12.1 is improving with the updates…

  39. Seb

    Well… I tried to launch openSuse 12.1 live CD, and it just told me there was an error with consoles tty3/tty4 and that it would reboot in 120 seconds.
    Can’t say it makes a great impression. I will definitely wait for the next versions as 11.3 and 11.4 worked ok.

  40. masserati

    While Windows is becoming worse and worse it’s not the case in Linux. It’s not surprising people leave Windows behind when it consumes a lot of RAM for some MS only known services. Not everyone knows Windows 7 is the same mess as Vista with the same kernel and with some bug fixes. It has very old usb support (from windows xp era!) and slow file system that fragments like hell. Windows era is going to end. It lost in smartphones, enterprise (people are migrating to Linux), server market and now it’s time for desktops. Windows 8 with its crappy interface and crappy legcacy kernel will make things even worse. Such old technology from windows xp era must simply die.

  41. sisto

    Some happy people here, and some angry people.
    I have had good luck with 11.1, 11.2, 11.3, 11.4, 12.1, but on a slightly too old machine there are some hang problems with 12.1 maybe due to NVIDIA linuxdrivers. I was recommended SuSE by the Linux Communication and has not regretted since. I still use suse 7.3 on my moneymaking production machine from 2000. And in this moment I am wroting on a Desktop SLED10_SP3.

    It seems like everything depend upon hardware drivers, graphic cards and processors. AMD has definately been the best choice for my linuxes. Trouble with Centrino, with hangs independent of any Suse version. The “last” Intel I got to work properly is Pentium III on the 2000 machine, and on that machine both 7.3 and SLED10SP3 is working fine, and I think that Intel is too eager for the Microsoft products, quite natural,though, but not right.

    • I have a i7 notebook that works fine under 11.4 (except by the NVIDIA drivers, that crashes shamelessly on Gnome – but that is NVIDIA’s fault – on every other machine that does not use a NVIDIA chip, everything worked fine)

  42. My God, Gnome 3 is unusable!

    Sometimes, we must hold on the mouse’s button while selecting something to be activated on button’s release. Sometimes, we need to click. Even worst, there’s times where just a double click do the job.

    There is any chance to porting Gnome 2 to OpenSUSE 12 series?

    Until there, I think I will just hold on on OpenSUSE 11.4 while I can. I like Yast2 and OpenSUSE very much, but not that much to cope with Gnome (and, definitively, I would prefer switching distro to use KDE)

    I can’t even change the font color of the Shell’s Clock, by God’s sake! (Changing Theme on the Advanced Settings? Seriously?)