Comments on: openSUSE 11.3 EOL’ed, 12.2 On The Way!

By: not telling

not telling — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 04:00:28 +0000

I hated opensuse 11.3 kde couldn’t do wireless
and gnome could not play videos

By: frode

frode — Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:03:45 +0000

For me 11.2->11.4 has been the best so far. I use 11.3 on a server. Delivers really good. I use 11.4 as a desktop-computer(x86_64). Is more stable than my windows 7. That’s the reason for switching to 11.4. I tried installing 12.1(x86) with xfce on an old amd-machine but it wouldn’t run at the end of the day. So I’m still sticking to 11.4 until a stable/more usable version of 12.x comes out before I upgrade or install it as my Workstation.

By: Miro

Miro — Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:07:51 +0000

12.1 after start switches automatically from VGA to HDMI connector and no possibility to change back to VGA. Unusable for me. Mainboard ASRock A75M-HVS with integrated Radeon CPU graphics. I confirm, that 2,5 TB disk with GPT table works OK, but must be inserted as clear or delete all partitions first. Not possibility to add Opensuse 12.1 to this disk to e.g. Windows partitions. If it is target, SuSe 12.1 must be installed as first OS. Due problem with unmanagable Radeon outputs, I will check Suse 11.4 .

By: Joseph

Joseph — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:58:56 +0000

The KMail bug IS the fault of OpenSUSE. In 11.4 they decided that KMail 4.6 was too buggy and kept 4.4 from 11.3 in the distribution instead – and OpenSUSE 11.4 got rave reviews, some hailing it as the best OpenSUSE release ever. It also had many discernible improvements (such as a large increase in zypper speed). Although KMail 4.7 is still too buggy, they went and included it anyway. There’s no way no one noticed that it’s configured incorrectly and that importing mail will fail as is. No one bothered to fix it or opt to fall back to 4.4. SystemD was switched to, but it wasn’t taken advantage of to actually make the system boot faster, so some users saw problems and no one saw any measurable improvements. Snapper was created, but btrfs wasn’t ready for production environments, so this too was something most people couldn’t use. The same with color calibration. The end result was this release saw several significant, avoidable bugs (not to mention it was the first OpenSUSE release with a kernel affected by the power regression bug) but most users didn’t experience any visible improvements like they did with 11.4. The mission statement that everyone worked so hard on declared that OpenSUSE favored stability over bleeding edge. That mission statement was ignored when developers decided to use KMail 4.7 and systemD before they were fully utilized and ready for daily use out-of-the-box. Both were originally scheduled for 11.4 but held back; this time they were squeezed in even though they still weren’t fully ready.

No one’s complaining about out-of-the-box hardware functionality, YaST, the Build Service, etc. We love those things and that’s why we’re still SUSE users. What we are complaining about was that the mission statement was ignored and technologies that still weren’t ready were included in 12.1 and now we have to tell friends things like “You should really try OpenSUSE! Um, just don’t download the latest version, but the one before that’s really awesome….” Developers knew that there were bugs but chose not to hold the distro back for a few weeks and fix them, or much earlier on decide to fall back to KMail 4.4, etc.

By: Joseph

Joseph — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:47:31 +0000

Kmail 4.4 is in the opensuse build service. Just delete kmail 4.7, install 4.4, and everything will be back to normal.

By: Matthias Mailänder

Matthias Mailänder — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:36:55 +0000

I read most people complaining about KDE 4 and mostly the KMail filtering bug. This is not a fault of openSUSE. For me a distributor should take care about hardware detection, system configuration and package software. Go to bugs.kde.org and vote for your favourite bugs, become a KDE e.V. member, pay a developer… Complaining here won’t help. I like how my DVB-S card worked out-of-the-box using openSUSE which was impossible with Ubuntu and the OpenBuildService is a lot more user-friendly then Launchpads PPA. Well YAST which makes SUSE quite unique seems a little bloated, but having a GUI for everything is a good idea for beginners. IMHO

By: Felix

Felix — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:14:52 +0000

12.1 works great for me (but I don’t use Skype or Kmail). I prefer openSUSE (for my own machines) over Ubuntu. Yast is great. At work I am the only one with a Linux machine (I wanted one), and Yast made it very easy using in the network (MS and MAC boxes) – printing included.
Ubuntu is great for my HTPCs and the “noobs of mine”. Easier to use than openSUSE, easier software installation.
KDE 4.7 and 4.8 are a pleasure to work with. Often I open many files at the same time for different tasks (using up to 4 desktops). MS Windows would be a pain here. My KDE sometimes has small hiccups,yes, but as far as I can tell it’s the best desktop out there. Beats Win7 and Mac OS.

By: Jerome

Jerome — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:06:14 +0000

12.1 is the worst version i have been used. A lot of bugs and the kde desktop is so bad configged.

By: Larry Irwin

Larry Irwin — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:28:32 +0000

I have been using 12.1 since it came out and have had little trouble with it except for one thing. My laptop is a low end Gateway lt3120. I could not get the graphical system to work until I added the nomodeset parameter. Apparently, my graphics adapter isn’t well supported yet but it is not a problem now. Overall, 12.1 works well for me.

Thanks very much for providing an excellent distro of Linux.

By: AlisterB

AlisterB — Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:54:01 +0000

I also agree with these sentiments – but I would add that the bulk of the problems now relate to KDE4 and KMail2, BUT SUSE CANNOT ABSOLVE RESPONSIBILITY.
Suse is a distribution, a package – so I hope some of the developers or product managers with influence read this thread and will take steps to resolve the issues that have really boiled over in 12.1.
Please help me return to being a fervent supporter and proponent of Suse 12.x !