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	<title>Comments on: openSUSE 12.2: Brought to you by &#8220;an extremely talented group of people&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great, great distro. I&#039;ve installed most versions since 5.2 (but that needed a glibc compile straight after installation in order to update Xfree86 to run my cheap SiS graphics chipset. Things really took off for me with the 6.x series with 6.4 perhaps being my all time favourite. It will be blow away by modern versions but for its time there was nothing to compare imho.

Everyone will have their own favourites, but for me the best of the best were 6.4, 7.3, 8.2, 10.0, 11.3, and 12.2.

I have a number of &#039;Professional&#039; boxsets with the the excellent full manual sets, and can never seem to bring myself to get rid of them, even though their use is &#039;limited&#039; in today&#039;s world! :)

I really have great hopes for 12.3 and can&#039;t wait to start installing it on my main work machines, as always.

A really heartfelt thanks to the SuSE teams past and present for such great disrtos!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great, great distro. I&#8217;ve installed most versions since 5.2 (but that needed a glibc compile straight after installation in order to update Xfree86 to run my cheap SiS graphics chipset. Things really took off for me with the 6.x series with 6.4 perhaps being my all time favourite. It will be blow away by modern versions but for its time there was nothing to compare imho.</p>
<p>Everyone will have their own favourites, but for me the best of the best were 6.4, 7.3, 8.2, 10.0, 11.3, and 12.2.</p>
<p>I have a number of &#8216;Professional&#8217; boxsets with the the excellent full manual sets, and can never seem to bring myself to get rid of them, even though their use is &#8216;limited&#8217; in today&#8217;s world! :)</p>
<p>I really have great hopes for 12.3 and can&#8217;t wait to start installing it on my main work machines, as always.</p>
<p>A really heartfelt thanks to the SuSE teams past and present for such great disrtos!</p>
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		<title>By: mortenB</title>
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		<dc:creator>mortenB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You cant compare CentOS/RHEL and OpenSuse/SLES. RHELs OpenSuse sidekick is Fedora and Fedora and RHEL are even further away from each other than OpenSuse and SLES. CentOS is just a compilation of the opensource RHEL source rpms with removed Redhat copyrights. It is also missing most of the redhat gui tools, so it is not that shiny to manage. 

We develop software on CentOS and deploy to customers that are all running RHEL. I would have loved to have the same possibility with a free version of SLES to deploy on, so we could have supported SLES also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cant compare CentOS/RHEL and OpenSuse/SLES. RHELs OpenSuse sidekick is Fedora and Fedora and RHEL are even further away from each other than OpenSuse and SLES. CentOS is just a compilation of the opensource RHEL source rpms with removed Redhat copyrights. It is also missing most of the redhat gui tools, so it is not that shiny to manage. </p>
<p>We develop software on CentOS and deploy to customers that are all running RHEL. I would have loved to have the same possibility with a free version of SLES to deploy on, so we could have supported SLES also.</p>
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		<title>By: Joakim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joakim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 11:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I did a full update from 11.3 to 12.2, scary - yes. It worked perfectly, and I have had no issues except a strange sound thing in some vbox instances.

Keep up the good work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I did a full update from 11.3 to 12.2, scary &#8211; yes. It worked perfectly, and I have had no issues except a strange sound thing in some vbox instances.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: openlizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>openlizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 08:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m using openSUSE since 12.1, and I&#039;m loving it. 
But I&#039;ve found also that the update manager/Apper/packagekit is a nightmare. 
Fortunately, I&#039;m always using sudo zypper up, and no problems with it so far! I&#039;m exciting to see the new 12.3, looks amazing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using openSUSE since 12.1, and I&#8217;m loving it.<br />
But I&#8217;ve found also that the update manager/Apper/packagekit is a nightmare.<br />
Fortunately, I&#8217;m always using sudo zypper up, and no problems with it so far! I&#8217;m exciting to see the new 12.3, looks amazing</p>
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		<title>By: Ankleface Wroughtlandmire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ankleface Wroughtlandmire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 04:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking great for 12.3! Can&#039;t wait.

I second the request for an official alternative desktop edition live CD.

My biggest complaint with 12.2 right now is the shockingly unstable YaST package manager. It CONSTANTLY crashes and makes it impossible to complete some operations. It wasn&#039;t this bad in 12.1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking great for 12.3! Can&#8217;t wait.</p>
<p>I second the request for an official alternative desktop edition live CD.</p>
<p>My biggest complaint with 12.2 right now is the shockingly unstable YaST package manager. It CONSTANTLY crashes and makes it impossible to complete some operations. It wasn&#8217;t this bad in 12.1.</p>
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		<title>By: pmller</title>
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		<dc:creator>pmller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the release of an official, combined openSUSE LXDE/Xfce/E17 Live CD for 12.3? This would have a few advantages for openSUSE:
1. More users, because someone who would like to use LXDE, Xfce or E17 does not want to download the whole DVD which is full of mostly unneeded KDE and Gnome software.
2. This Live CD would surely be more bug-free than those that are published via Suse Studio.
3. The complete, real openSUSE branding could be used without falling back to this more or less inconsistent &quot;based_on_openSUSE&quot; branding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the release of an official, combined openSUSE LXDE/Xfce/E17 Live CD for 12.3? This would have a few advantages for openSUSE:<br />
1. More users, because someone who would like to use LXDE, Xfce or E17 does not want to download the whole DVD which is full of mostly unneeded KDE and Gnome software.<br />
2. This Live CD would surely be more bug-free than those that are published via Suse Studio.<br />
3. The complete, real openSUSE branding could be used without falling back to this more or less inconsistent &#8220;based_on_openSUSE&#8221; branding.</p>
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		<title>By: jospoortvliet</title>
		<link>http://news.opensuse.org/2013/01/23/opensuse-12-2-brought-to-you-by-an-extremely-talented-group-of-people/comment-page-1/#comment-76495</link>
		<dc:creator>jospoortvliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We hope so too and from what I&#039;ve seen, things are shaping up great. I think you&#039;ll love it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We hope so too and from what I&#8217;ve seen, things are shaping up great. I think you&#8217;ll love it!</p>
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		<title>By: jospoortvliet</title>
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		<dc:creator>jospoortvliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like a bug worth reporting. Are you using all standard repositories? A restart of the session sounds like a graphics issue but it could also be that your drives are full or something like that, always check the state of your root, tmp and other partitions. A full drive can lead to the weirdest problems...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a bug worth reporting. Are you using all standard repositories? A restart of the session sounds like a graphics issue but it could also be that your drives are full or something like that, always check the state of your root, tmp and other partitions. A full drive can lead to the weirdest problems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jospoortvliet</title>
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		<dc:creator>jospoortvliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nelson - I suggest both as that seems appropriate in this case ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nelson &#8211; I suggest both as that seems appropriate in this case ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: jospoortvliet</title>
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		<dc:creator>jospoortvliet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks. I hope we can create a openSUSE 12.3 which can win you back!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I hope we can create a openSUSE 12.3 which can win you back!</p>
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