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openSUSE 13.1 RC2 Hits the Web, Last Chance for Testing

October 31st, 2013 by

RC2 is coming
The openSUSE 13.1 release is getting very close – just a little over two weeks, according to the Roadmap. Today, Release Candidate 2 is available on software.opensuse.org. Grab one of the images and help us test!

What’s new

The changes in this update are not very big or ground shaking. This is a sign of openSUSE 13.1 maturing quickly: we focused on bug fixing. Obviously, the bugfixing hackathon helped a lot. Below is a limited list of changes (omitting most bug fixes):

  • systemd was updated to version 208
  • Shim should now work which means the secure boot is possible
  • Plasma-nm no longer replaces the knetworkmanager
  • Calibre is now fully operational
  • kernel was updated with more fixes and one speedy improvement everyone could read about on phoronix (the radeon/nouveau timer improvements)
  • In the area of virtualization the xen and libvirt packages were updated
  • A lot of migration issues were fixed so zypper dup from older release will go smoother
  • Apper should no longer choke on multiple license agreements
  • YaST parts were updated fixing bunch of installer bugs
  • XFCE can now properly suspend
  • e17 artwork was openSUSEfied (yay!)
  • Akonadi should better handle PostgreSQL as backend
  • Our vlc version was updated to 2.1 which is the latest and coolest provided
  • Translations updates

And again, this is a partial list: there are bugfixes for many issues reported by testers included.
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Testing

openSUSE 13.1 will have to stand up right in a proud tradition of great stability so it will need a final serious workout before we release it upon the world! We wrote about testing a while ago, and we urge you to check out that article and help out!

We ask you to give some extra attention to:

  • btrfs!
  • livecd’s and usb live sticks – these did not work in RC1, which was in part because this is hard to test automatically. We have some tests set up but manual testing is really needed to ensure the live images work well.
  • Secure Boot/UEFI. If you have a machine with Secure Boot and UEFI and 12.3 didn’t work for you, please, test this 13.1 RC2. With this RC2 we added a fix related with the alignment of certificates that can cause fails on some UEFI firmware.

A list of the most annoying bugs can be found here.

Have a lot of fun!

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69 Responses to “openSUSE 13.1 RC2 Hits the Web, Last Chance for Testing”

  1. Gol

    Good news!

    I appreciate all of your hard work and ready to test as soon, as possible.

  2. Hi all !!

    Spreading the word for spanish users:

    http://victorhckinthefreeworld.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/opensuse-13-1-rc2-ya-esta-disponible/

    ‘ve phun!! ;)

  3. slk021

    Downloading all live ISOs, hope my girfriend believes all computers broke down at the same time :)

  4. Great!

  5. vrm

    Some serious issues that have been persistent over several versions –

    KDE start up time has not reduced, in spite of advances in h/w. It takes 13 secs after log in to get to a usable desktop on an SSD ! It used to take this long in KDE 3.5.10, using age old 4200 RPM hard drives ! WTF !

    If you use any style different from oxygen (which, BTW sucks and looks dated), the widgets go out of alignment. It is especially noticeable in the network manager list of wifi APs. What makes this worse is the use of QML widgets – now you have to configure BOTH Qt and KDE to use oxygen; it took me a long time to figure this out. It is RIDDDICCUlous.

    fonts – need to make them look like they do in ubuntu out of the box. The freetype library needs to be fixed; I hard that the patent issues are not longer relevant. Use the muzlocker or the other formula. I shouldn’t have to do all these things after an installation- that should be the default setup. And for heavens sake, get rid of the $hitty core fonts – NOBODY, I mean NOBODY uses them. They get in the way. REMOVE THEM, PRONTO ! Just include on console font and that is it.

    • vrm

      Some typos-
      “…on console font…” should read …one console font…

      “…hard that the patent…” should read …heard that the patent…”

      And yes, PLEASE do not make lsb depend on qt3 and kde3 libs, like, since a couple of years now ?! PLEASE clean up the dependencies. Do NOT install ANY 32 bit libraries on a 64 bit install unless I specifically ask for them.

    • Eliasse Diaite

      Hi gentleman,

      Did you forget that you do not pay for the job being done by the development team? Rather than complaining you could contribute on mailing lists or similar fora in fixing bugs or suggesting improvements by disclosing your workarounds.

      openSUSE is the NUMBER ONE community distribution and is as such UNBREAKABLE. WE LOVE IT THE WAY IT IS. FREE AND OPEN.

      Have a lot of fun with the final release. Friendly yours.

      • Bob

        Did you forget that the “free” part is software and it works on over 500 distro and not your “packaging”?! The problem is your development team that makes it as buggy as always. openSUSE development team need a software engineer to pay attention to “quality”… Development is not just “packaging”.
        “contribute on mailing lists or similar fora” doesn’t help because many “known and bad bugs” are “STILL” after 2 years there!! How can you work with your suse box with dbus-daemon problem that makes cpus to work at full speed?! There are “many” and openSUSE dies in 2 years!

        • Eliasse Diaite

          Hi Bob,

          You seem to ignore everything about Linux distributions. All of them are community driven free and open source software assemblies with the kernel as a core. If you want an operating system produced by a development team composed of paid software engineers, then buy a commercial product like Microsoft windows or alike.

          You are not welcomed in the Linux Community.

          Once again, openSUSE Linux is UNBREAKABLE. VIVE OPENSUSE!!!

    • Anamezon

      @vrm:

      “Some serious issues … oxygen (which, BTW sucks and looks dated)”

      something that look dated TO YOU is NOT a SERIOUS issue!!! What are you, a 13-year old??? Go buy an Mac, if that’s what you care about …

      “fonts – need to make them look like they do in ubuntu out of the box.”

      if I wanted them this way, I would be switching to *buntu, wouldn’t I?

      • Anamezon

        “a Mac” is what I meant …

      • vrm

        really, is that the response ? There are actually ‘better’ styles, windecs and color schemes already available- I know because I am using them ( no, I did NOT code them). Cleanlooks (adopted by gnome), polyester are good styles- why not make them available at least, if not make them default ? Crystal is a better windec than oxygen even without desktop effects and transparency. Yet, I have to got o kde extra repo to get it- WTF ? There are so many instances which does NOT require writing free extra code – ITS ALREADY THERE ! And yes, the freetype for cleartype is also there and ubuntu uses it !!!

        I just don’t get it man, why are you so against progress by clinging on to what you have been doing for years ?!

        • eco2geek

          vrm: You could switch to *buntu, you know. They have a fine version that uses KDE, named Kubuntu. Your choice. However, you’ll run into the same issues you mention here.

          For fonts, turn on anti-aliasing and sub-pixel hinting in System Settings. Your fonts will look a lot better. Anti-aliasing and sub-pixel hinting aren’t enabled by default in most KDE-based distros.

          For the Oxygen windec, maybe it looks dated since it’s been in use since KDE 4.0 came out. Oxygen is used by default in most KDE-based distros.

          The point is that KDE is very customizable, and what *you* want it to look like is not going to be what *I* want it to look like. The idea is, after you install it, you go make it look and feel the way you want it to. Or use a separate /home partition, and you won’t have to reconfigure it after each upgrade.

          There are distributions that make most of the look ‘n’ feel choices for you, and severely limit your customization options unless you download 3rd-party tools. Ubuntu proper, with Unity, for one; Elementary OS, for another. Personally, I’ll take KDE over either of those.

    • Jonathan

      Come on guys,
      The kid just gave his opinion and we should be mature enough to take it, argue with it if we disagree and get over it.
      “Go buy a Mac”? Really?
      Well, as part of the openSuse community, I would like to thank to @vrm for his opinion.
      I think it’s really nice to know what people think.
      And if you dislike any feature of the software, you do not have the obligation to do better or just be quiet.

      Besides that, congratulations to anyone, really anyone, from developers, to testers, to users (this is the REAL community, don’t forget the users, please)

  6. Eduardo

    Guys, you are amazing.

  7. VRM

    This is awesome ! Thank you sooooooo much

  8. Hans

    Is itnow possible to use a a de keyboard layout at lvm passphrase entry?

  9. vlad

    When will a new Suse Book be published?

  10. Becky

    Thought I’d give RC2 a spin… and it looks lovely, as always. I’m installing it in a VM though – and it’s telling me that it won’t accept the user name – which does meet it’s requirements… and which I use fine elsewhere…? It’s the KDE i686 version…. Oh – and it’s running almost as slow as a Solaris live disc!

    • Becky

      Oooops….. me bad…. doubled the RAM to 2GB and it argues but accepts what I’m telling it. Guess that means that nobody’s ever going to run Opensuse in a VM on a 2GB machine again…. Still looking good though…. and yes, a distinct improvement. I’m looking forward to the GM version in 2 weeks….

    • Becky

      C’mon guys! Is there something magical about 1GB for an image?

      Why not just add in all the bits that Yast tries to install the first time you run it – the bits that should be there right from the start…?

      Downloading an ISO, installing it…. and then downloading a bucket of software that’s larger than the ISO…. not a good idea….. This is more irritating than the other idiosyncracies I’ve seen lurking in the corners. I even had to set the screen size from the command line….???

      • 1GB is Live version. It’s made 1G large so it will fit even on 1G flash drive. If you want everything you need for installation, go for full DVD iso.

        • Becky

          You guys can actually find 1GB USB flash drives? I’m impressed!

          I’ve just had a look at our national stores over here… where we don’t have state-of-the-art devices… and I found one 4GB USB drive – everything else is 8GB up to 64GB.

          Maybe the 1GB limit is now outdated and you should be aiming for something a bit larger – like double it and that still gives us plenty of breathing space on a 4 or 8GB drive to add in our own preferences?

          It makes me think of the people who went around trying to keep Ubuntu distro’s below the CD limit… – they had to change because their users wanted a better experience right off the start.

          I guess my only route to an OpenSUSE live disc is to always go through Studio – as I know that works very well.

          • People still have old flash drive they like to use. I myself have few 1G drives from some older times. And 1G image you can put on even bigger flash drives while selected software should be enough for typical demo – showing it to somebody (that’s the purpose of Live versions anyway). I thought that if you install KDE from KDE Live it should use data on the media, but need to verify :-)

        • Actually, retested and you can install openSUSE with KDE without network and without any additional packages from Live media.

    • Becky

      Ok – I give up… all the supposed downloads didn’t ‘take’… so it’s cost me 1.2GB of expensive bandwidth… so I’m heading back to the darkside…..

      Not impressed – sorry!

      • What means that those downloads didn’t ‘take’?

        • Becky

          I told it the extras I wanted to add, saw all the other bits it was adding and let it get on with it – checking on it’s progress every so often. At the end of the update/install, there was no sign of all the other bits it had just downloaded.

          I have no idea of why this has happened… so I’m going to have to wait until the GM version hits us in 16 days… or wait until Studio has the new release….

          It’s a bit of shame really – I usually recommend OpenSUSE to my clients as the best-suited linux for business purposes. I’ll have to hold off on this until I can see a properly working version.

          • So during installation you added some additional software, it downloaded it but after the installation you couldn’t find there? That sounds like a weird bug, sounds like a good idea to report it. Will try to reproduce it myself later.

          • Hmmm, I don’t see a way how to add additional packages in installer from Live media, how did you do it?

          • Anonymous

            Sorry – wasn’t as clear as I should have been. I installed the kdelive disk into a VM and once I’d rebooted, I refreshed as much of the respositories as I could – and then when I searched for the extra software I wanted, it showed a load of extra software already selected.

            I figured I should let it install as I remembered this behaviour from 12.3 and then after the install/ update had completed, thats when I found all the ‘downloaded’ software wasn’t there.

            If it’s something stupid that I’ve done (rare – but could happen), I’ll just wait for the full release and studio to be updated.

  11. edrg

    “usb live sticks – these did not work in RC1″

    and did not work in RC2 too!
    tryed with unetbootin, yumi, universal usb installer, rufus, xboot and sardu.

    suse is not what it was in 2005-06 and some people should try to respect a diferent opinion.

    • aplanas

      What problem do you have with the USB. For this RC2 you may need and sticks >= 2Gb (the ISO fit in 1Gb one, but can cause installation problems). To copy the ISO to the stick a simple dd will do.

    • Akex Krajic

      for me dd is working, but the system chokes in live mode. It seems ok and suddenly just freezes for some seconds :(

  12. ben

    dd does not work at all tried it about 10 times with different downloads and usb cards. then re grabbed 12.3 and dd’d it and good to go.

    problem is root not rw is there a way to just upgrade 12.3 to the rc so I can go that route? I already have the 3.11 kernel

  13. Tom

    Thanks for this release, finally i installed it with my USB disk.
    I was suffering from the RC1 with the only windows OS appeared on the Grub2 list
    But where can i get a immediately information about the problem of the system on the website to avoid these kind of silly problem.
    Thank you very much!

  14. Bent Troen

    Trouble with dual boot!
    Installed 13.1 rc 1 on new computer (HP) with Windows 7 and 2 HDD’s.
    Dual boot didn’t work. Hoped 13.1 rc 2 worked – didn’t.
    Opensuse makes an entry in BIOS as #1 boot option.
    Eventually I cancelled the opensuse entry and now everything is all happiness.
    I get the dual boot menu and don’t have to study the inner mechanism of
    grub2.
    Hope it’s useful to somebody.
    btw. originally error message
    “boot/grub2/x86_64-efi/normal.mod not found” // “grub rescue”
    subdir x86_64-efi did not exist.

  15. vovan

    Привет Юзеры!Я простой лузер ,вот читаю ваши рецензии и ни хрена не пойму а чаво пишете тут.Я вот сижу на сусе и у меня нет проблем. Немогли-бы объяснить русским языком что нового вновой версии.

  16. Donald

    Have one problem with 13.1_64bit build 0084. Using ECS KBN-1/2100 board, 8 Gb. When running from the Live disk, EVERYTHING WORKS. But, when installed to HD the onboard LAN does not configure propperly, Realtek RTL8111E. It simply does not work after install. Tried install from Live menue and from DVD initial selection. Same results. Possible Bug?

  17. Jordi Relats

    have install Opensuse13.1 rc2 in a lenovo yoga.

    I had to disable secure boot, was not working for me I tried during installation and I have enabled later no way to start the computer

    I have a SSD hard drive, I have not found the way to use the file system F2FS.

    Probably I have done something wrong but I don’t know what.

    • Depends on what you have under “does not work at all” field.

      Is the device visible under “ifconfig” command or does not get an IP, etc…

      Might be just that Networkmanager is set up to not query on the device. I would first try to bash it with “yast2 lan” and try hand configuration and other crazy stuff.

      • Jordi Relats

        Do not work means that I can not start the computer, when loading grub says “you need to load the kernel first”
        When I disable secure boot, works perfectly keeping UEFI boot.

  18. Donald

    Additional info to help with prior post: Realtek RTL8111E Nov 3

    #ifconfig -a

    enp1s0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 74:27:EA:D1:A9:7A
    BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
    RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
    TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
    collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
    RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

    lo Link encap:Local Loopback
    inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
    inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
    UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1
    RX packets:44 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
    TX packets:44 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
    collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
    RX bytes:3272 (3.1 Kb) TX bytes:3272 (3.1 Kb)

    #ethtool enp1s0

    Settings for enp1s0:
    Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
    Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
    100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
    1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
    Supported pause frame use: No
    Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
    Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
    Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
    Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
    Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
    100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
    Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
    Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
    Speed: 10Mb/s
    Duplex: Full
    Port: MII
    PHYAD: 0
    Transceiver: internal
    Auto-negotiation: on
    Supports Wake-on: pumbg
    Wake-on: g
    Current message level: 0x00000033 (51)
    drv probe ifdown ifup
    Link detected: no

    #service network status

    network.service – LSB: Configure network interfaces and set up routing
    Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/network.service; enabled)
    Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sun 2013-11-03 08:40:17 EST; 29min ago
    Process: 681 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/network start (code=exited, status=7)

    Nov 03 08:39:48 linux-umwk network[681]: lo IP address: 127.0.0.1/8
    Nov 03 08:39:49 linux-umwk network[681]: ..done enp1s0 Startmode is ‘manual’ -> skipping
    Nov 03 08:39:49 linux-umwk ifup[1120]: enp1s0 Startmode is ‘manual’ -> skipping
    Nov 03 08:39:49 linux-umwk network[681]: ..skippedWaiting for mandatory devices: eth0
    Nov 03 08:40:17 linux-umwk network[681]: 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
    Nov 03 08:40:17 linux-umwk network[681]: eth0 No interface found
    Nov 03 08:40:17 linux-umwk network[681]: ..failedSetting up service network . . . . . . . . . . . . …failed
    Nov 03 08:40:17 linux-umwk systemd[1]: network.service: control process exited, code=exited status=7
    Nov 03 08:40:17 linux-umwk systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Configure network interfaces and set up routing.
    Nov 03 08:40:17 linux-umwk systemd[1]: Unit network.service entered failed state.

    • hmmm, strange, looks like your ethernet card got renamed during installation. If you run yast2 lan and reconfigure your network, it should work. That was clean installation? From which media?

    • derpif

      Hi,

      I have the same problem since 12.3 came out.
      I have to open yast-> network settings -> Hostname/DNS
      and mark “Assign Hostname to Loopback IP”.
      After that everything works.
      I believe I have the same Realtek, but can’t look right now.

      (I’m not sure anymore if I also changed the Network Setup Method you can find under the Global Options Tab, try it if the problem persists.)

  19. Mark

    uefi not working :-(( ANNOYING

  20. VM

    Installed on Alienware M17xR3 openSUSE 13.1 RC1, but dualboot with Win7 wont function on SSD. Noticed that a lot of folks are saying the same thing, some issues with dualboot.

  21. Chris

    Great RC2. Bluetooth is still borked on two systems (Notebooks). lsusb shows the bluetooth adapter but bluedevil fails to find it (again. tested with 3 Bluetooth adapters from different vendors. One Usb, 2 Mini-Pcie).
    FN brightness keys are not working (acpi_backlight=vendor and acpi_osi=linux are set).

    Just give a quick notice if opensuse drops Notebook Support.

  22. Ben

    So I obviously have zero patience as I wiped my 12.3 and installed the rc2. I’ve never been more impressed! First of al I really do not care for kde. So I always get gnome and replace it with another gtk window manager. I put cinnamon2 on this time and realized, that sho be the default. Gnome these days is just aweful. I have a touchscreen and xfce is better than gnome on it. But I mainly use mouse and keyboard so xfcr mate or cinnamon for me. I think a default cinnamon would put opensuse at least number 2 behind mint. ( although I like opensuse better.) good job guys, what would be the reason for sticking with gnome? They are dumbing down the desktop, look at nautilus. Even with all the extensions it’s no good. Took me 5 min to get cinnamon running, and it knocks the socks off kde and gnome.
    Of course this is all opinion.
    Very nice work on yast btw. System works great with my new rig. No complaints.

  23. Kenneth Aar

    Major issues with sound(pulse audio) and Skype. But installing the following packages alleviates the problems somewhat:

    alsa-plugins-pulse-32bit and pavucontrol

    Or you could run the following command from the commandline:
    sudo zypper in alsa-plugins-pulse-32bit pavucontrol

    But still the sound just goes silent if you try to play music from Tomahawk (Music player) and then you try to make a call from Skype. Or even worse there is a loud noise that won’t stop until you shutdown skype.

    So I found this post and finally it seems to provide a fix. (Even mutes Tomahawk while the call lasts!)
    http://arunraghavan.net/2013/08/pulseaudio-4-0-and-skype/

    The important line being:
    launch skype via the commandline via this command:
    http://arunraghavan.net/2013/08/pulseaudio-4-0-and-skype/

    • Aaber

      Thank you @Kenneth Aar I will try these settings when i come home and hope my Skype problems are fixed.
      Didn’t take the time yet to search for a resolution and you have saved me the effort :)

  24. Kenneth Aar

    This app may do the steps I outline above, but now that it works for me I am not tempted to try it out.

    http://software.opensuse.org/package/skype-deps

  25. Pierre

    Installed openSUSE 13.1 on IBM Thinkpad R60 without any problem.
    Only issue until now is something I experienced already with 12.3. After installation finished and the machine reboots from USB stick or DVD and you choose Boot From Hard Disk it simply only reenters the menu without booting from Hard Disk. To boot from hard disk you have to turn off the PC and unconnect the USB stick.
    After that everything works perfectly.
    The newly installed system runs rock solid and rocket fast.

    Thanks to all the developers for such an amazing and awesome RC2.

  26. Pierre

    I forgot one point: openSUSE 13.1 with KDE became even more beautiful than the previous release. Very nice work indeed.

  27. derpif

    Can the NSA place Backdoors in Opensuse without anyone noticing, how possible is this scenario, and does the community take countermeasures in 13.1 to prevent that?

    Or can they even legally demand Backdoors since Suse got sold to Novell?

    • Dave Smith

      Suse was sold by Novell some time ago

    • hcvv

      That is very unlikely. openSUSE is Open SSource. That means that everybody, inclusing you, can read and check the source code. So someone will notice.

      • derpif

        Thank you very much for your reply.
        This is something I have to learn instead of waiting for others to do so, absolutely agreed.

        Unfortunately I don’t have the knowledge yet. And as you can probably guess by my next question, it will most likely take me some time to learn.

        Do I understand this correctly, in order to get their spy features, they have to alter the source code?
        There is no other way of getting access to a system, exploiting security holes or such?

        I realize it might sound a bit sarcastic, but I’m not, I honestly don’t know if “exploiting a security hole” is even considered a backdoor and if that necessarily involves the altering of source code.

  28. dtz

    no wireles in suse in 2013?!
    suse 13.1 was made by kelly bundy? :)

  29. dtz

    erase! is not something to accept in 2013. nobody has time to look after such a thing.